Chris Kreider was once again in "Beast Mode" against the Blue Jackets last night. He was flying all over the ice, while creating numerous offensive chances. Nothing was going to stop him.
Nothing that is, other than a phantom boarding penalty on Fedor Tyutin that resulted in a game misconduct...
At first glimpse, it looked like a reckless hit by Kreider. But when you slow it down, you can see that not only shouldn't it have been a five minute major, it probably wasn't a penalty at all.
The biggest indicator of a true boarding penalty is whether Kreider hits a defenseless Tyutin. As you can see by the two screen grabs below, Kreider is innocent of all charges...
In the photos, you can see Tyutin is not facing the boards nor is he in a vulnerable position (i.e. bending over or head down) when Kreider makes initial impact. Also Kreider's point of contact is on the Blue Jacket defenseman's hip not the numbers. Kreider was also pulling up, not driving through Tyutin.
At the end of the day, Kreider is a strong dude and Tyutin didn't brace himself for the hit resulting in a dangerous outcome.
Unfortunately for Kreider, Tyutin was injured on the play, which is the likely reason for the ejection.
Here's Alain Vigneault on the hit (via Bergen Record)...
"If you look at the replay, he tried to stop just before," Vigneault said. "You can see he’s stopping and it’s sort of a follow-through from their player. Anytime a guy gets pushed into the boards the way he did, the referees don’t have much of a choice."
Now the next question is whether the NHL will pursue further punishment for Kreider in the form of a suspension.
Looking at all the above factors as well as it being Kreider's first offense, I don't see how Brendan Shanahan and his minions can rule in favor of a suspension.
The only thing Kreider does have going against him is that Tyutin was injured on the play. The defenseman didn't return to the game but apparently it was due to a seperate lower body injury.
Larry Brooks at the New York Post says the NHL Department of Player Safety, which reviewed the play during and immediately after the match, is not expected to conduct a hearing or enact supplementary discipline against Kreider
This is the guy that concussed pylon last game in Columbus with a questionable hit not for nothing...
The injury wasn't related to the hit per cbj which should be immaterial anyway! Two identical hits by Chris Neil on say Lucic and Nash - Lucic skates away unscathed, but Nash with his recent history of concussions sits out six games - same crime should equal same time barring prior history. Conversely then a completely blatant head hunting shot that doesn't result in injury gets little or nothing - bs the victim was lucky no thanks to the guy who hit illegally and the hitter should be punished accordingly!
Why wasn't the crushing hit on John Moore a penalty his face hit the dashers he came up bloody?!? I get it's subjective but come attempt consistency in calls!!!
Let's hope this doesn't deter Kreider from being aggressive and taking the body!
Wow, a lot of ref apologists. Read the rule on boarding than watch the replay. That should not have been 5 minutes. That should not have been 2 minutes. It should have been 0 minutes. Just because someone is hit into the boards, even, dramatically so, does not make it boarding. The only thing I'd say is with the crackdowns as boarding is one of the most dangerous plays in the game I could understand a mis- call of 2 minutes but come on. Officiating has been poor this year.
I understand the desire by the league to place blame on the player throwing the hit, like Carcillo said, no one likes giving away money and you learn to make adjustments. The only way to remove these hits is to overly penalize the guys that throw them.
But a lot of people are against youth leagues removing hitting from the game because more and more young players don't know how to TAKE a hit. This is 90% of this is on Tyutin. He wasn't blindsided, he was puck watching, just like you said. And the scary part is, guys know now that they can put themselves in a vulnerable position and earn their teams a power play. He wasn't driven into the boards, it was hip on hip. He played it like a moron and his team got rewarded.
by the way if everyone is trying so hard to protect the players, why does it seem that there are far more players going on the injured reserve ? the more i think about what don cherry says about letting the players police their own game the more i think he's got a point. also, the way i see it is that more players are not paying attention to what's going on around them on the ice, thus putting themselves in line for injury.
not only are most rangers having a sloppy year, i think for the most part you can say that about the referees. a lot off inconsistancy from game to game. the only good thing about that call on kreider was that it helped my fantasy stats. it was a borderline boarding call at most.
If that is their excuse for losing that game then they should start concentrating on this springs NHL draft.
I think it should have been 2mins. 5mins would have been bad luck. Getting kicked out of the game was wrong. Perhaps if he had not slowed down it would have made sense.
In today's NHL that is not just a penalty but should be a suspension as well - he hit a player in a vulnerable position. You are only allowed to hit people now if you send them a notarized letter a week in advance.
Not even a penalty. A clean hit, that had an unfortunate effect that was unintentional. The NHL hates the Rangers and every referee goes through Ranger hatred training before officiating a game. Not that we have any excuse for losing once again but this is getting really irritating.
Think it's more of a borderline call then you are making it out to be. Tyutin's feet are pointed towards the boards so he couldn't brace himself as if his feet were in line with Kreider (it's a lot easier to tip someone over on skates back to front then side to side). He was leaning over to play the puck and ultimately, although Kreider held up, he threw a shoulder at the end of the play to initiate contact.
Wish JD was still the color man cause he would give a very honest assessment.
After saying all this, would rather Kreider make the play and get kicked out then play a soft game. He needs to occasionally cross the line in order to play on the edge.
I'm okay with the call. It was a dangerous boarding penalty. I'm not saying he should be suspended, but if he only received two minutes I would have called him lucky.
Kreider catches Tyutin puck watching. He realizes that Tyutin isn't paying attention and tries to slow down as best as he can.
It's a clean hit and it's Tyutin's responsibility to be aware. It's about as dumb as skating with your head down--of course someone will lay you out.
Refs will call that every time. Though it was clean it was the right call. The misconduct on the other hand was not. That was total BS.
They are trying to protect players more than ever, so the moment a ref sees a guys face plant into the boards with his neck cranked back, its more than likely going to be a penalty lol.
The ref reacted more to how the dman fell than 5 he hit...... it wad plain ad day to know
A- u slowed down and tried to stop
B- he hit him on the side
Plays Luke that should be reviewable. ..by regs so they get the right call
Funny how Dub I drops the gloves. On Kreider. ..and starts throwing punches... no Dorsett or Carcillo... Easy to drop the gloves on a 22 yr old kid....
Shanahan's minions lmfao. I don't know? Aren't you allowed to take the body? Isn't this a contact sport? Even at speed that was no boarding for 3 reasons I could see. Hope Shanny does the right thing
In related news: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=699349&navid=nhl:topheads
Kreider was called for it because the rest the Rangers are such wilting flowers that Kreider's ordinary hockey play looked like an assault by comparison. I'm surprised he wasn't cuffed. "Hey..Hey..Hey....Eaaasssyy...big fella! You can't go around just hitting people. Why can't you skate nice like the rest of your friends?"
He showed an effort to slow down...in no way was that a dirty hit! Especially NOT a game misconduct!
Not even worthy of a minor penalty. Its called a check people. Not Kreiders fault that Tyutin has the same balance gene as Boyle. These calls are all made depending on how long the player takes to get back up and nothing else....b.s.
@TheNYRBlog Tyutin wasn't that much of a pussy when he played for the Rangers......need to protect yourself better than that.
Dubinsky NEVER hesitated to drop the gloves if he had to when he was here. But I'm glad AV dressed an enforcer for this team.
The game misconduct swung the momentum in favor of the Jackets, and we lost our best player for the rest of the game. Ridiculous that you can't even review these calls.
@TheNYRBlog Never a penalty!Pretty much Tyutins fault,he knew the hit was coming, did nothing to brace & stood himself in no-mans-land!
another case of the refs altering the outcome of the game by initiating lazy officiating. enough is enough! we have gotten the dirty end of the stick more times than I care to remember this year.
@TheNYRBlog no suspension..but def penalty..even ulf thought so
I was there and thought it was a dirty hit initially. Upon further review I feel differently. On a side note, when did dubinski become a tough guy?
I could have even dealt w a major w no game misconduct, though I don't think it was a major since he didn't hit him in the numbers. I understand the refs need to make sure everyone is safe out there, but I think they overreacted w the game misconduct. At the end of the day though, hopefully bettman can put his prejudice against the rangers aside and do what's right and now hand out a suspension.
@TheNYRBlog i think he'll escape suspension n might get match pim revoked, he stopped n hit shoulder to shoulder. No chance there was intent
Your 3rd paragraph says all you need to say. Refs saw a player go into the board hard, so they called it. They don't have the benefit of instant replays or super slow mo. They made the call they had to make and I think it's good that they are trying to penalize people for plays like that. Now, it was obviously not a major penalty and certainly not boarding. The right thing for the league to do would be to rescind Kreider's game misconduct since 2 of those equal a game suspension, if I'm not mistaken. ANY further disciplinary action by the league would be a joke.
@TheNYRBlog idk if you saw this but Tyutin's injury is a LBI, more likely from the hit not the boards, still don't see how that was 5 & game
@TheNYRBlog also, when looking at the video, it's clear that kreider didn't hit him in the numbers. It was shoulder to shoulder
@TheNYRBlog a guy at my gym knows a girl who used to work for bettman.He does in fact go out of his way to screw NYR. expect a suspension
@xxscaxx Actually... take a look at the videotape in slow motion.... right before Tyutin's head hits the ice, he looks up.... I'm not so sure he did not try to EMBELLISH the hit. I'm sure it hurt, but I think ole' Tyutin acted a bit..... No question it hurt Tyutin, but that much??!! He didn't miss a shift, did he????
@Say my Name Can just picture those words coming from Boyle.
@jimmyprods Ah, what does Ulfie know. lol
Never....still have no idea how he always got the better of richards....watch carcillo vs dubinsky. Thats all you need to know about dubis skills
@mobilope Yeah, just updated my post. Thanks for the headsup.
lol are you serious? "a guy at my gym knows a girl who used to work for ..." :)