When the Rangers drafted a speedy kid out of Boston College with their first round pick in 2009, we all envisioned him scoring goals like this...
But one thing we did not expect from Chirs Kreider was this...
Ever since being recalled from Hartford at the end of October, Kreider has been playing with an edge and aggressiveness that we hadn't seen in previous stints with the Rangers. Not even during his magical playoff run in 2012.
And that new found style has been a catalyst for his offense which has become more consistent and dynamic than at any other point during his brief NHL career...
"It's definitely something I'm focusing on doing more of," Krieder said of his toughness after Saturday night's Rangers victory in Toronto. "There's obviously not a lot of space out there, so the more you can get a bump on a guy the better."
He's also been displaying a little Sean Avery on the ice as he's found himself in the middle of his fair share of post whistle scrums and can often be seen chirping opponents the way he did with Phaneuf Saturday night.
...it seems as though Kreider needs that emotion and anger to step up his game. Just look at his best performance this season. A hat trick against the John Tortorella led Canucks. A coincidence? I think not. Then Saturday night, he busts out that ridiculous breakaway goal literally seconds after getting into a verbal sparing match with Phaneuf. He's sort of like Adam Sandler in "The Waterboy." Wonder if he's using "tackling fuel"...
Kreider also feels a key to his increased offense this season has been his willingness to go to the net...
"It's something I'm trying to focus on. Not pulling up and taking a wrist shot, but trying to take it across the cage and get it to the pipe."
...can someone show this quote to Rick Nash?
Sign #1 that I like AV better then Torts. AV is giving Kreider time to play & get out those rookie mistakes.. For every 1 mistake he makes he makes 20 great moves (off & def).. Torts would have already sent him down..
If you watch the play coming into the zone before the dust up with Phaneuf, he was standing up for Stepan. As Step crosses the blue line, he takes a nasty 2 hander across his hands/forearms. Kreider yells and his eyes light up in fury. A few seconds later, mitts and sticks are down.
What is that Buddhist saying-Right Thought- RIght Action? Guess that Krieder has got his Zen brain working and is playing smart, perfect and with an edge.Gonna be awesome if he can continue his great play this year in the second half..
Absolutely. They need to continue to play the way the did the other night. Carcillo. Is a great addition but they still don't have a true heavyweight. Orr would've pounded. Carcillo. Head in. Remember a few years back it was Blair Betts Ryan Hollweg. And colton orr?.. great 4th line
Kevin i understand and agree with your point that Nash must crash the net and play with some fire that he has been lacking. but i think your forgetting his 42 point season last year. hes having a bad HALF of a season and you are turning on the guy like he is Wade Redden. He is in a slump. it happens. he is not buyout materiel
Hmm, sounds like he's becoming a "Torts" kind of player. Very interesting...Kreider's shortened season of 2013 went something like this: he'd get called up for limited duty, practice with the big boys, get an ear load from Torts. Was not using his strength. Was not tight enough on the D. No grit, no checking with that big, strong fast body. So get's sent back to Hartford for valuable top 6 minutes. then another call up. Same routine and looking a bit tighter but not good enough yet. Back to the farm. then back to the big leagues, practice with the team. limited game time minutes, watching games from the press box and analyzing. More ear rapings from Torts, but wow, looking a bit more responsible now. A bit more hungry, starts taking the body more and even makes a nice impact in the playoffs, though game's not quite complete yet. Sorry Krieds, not quite good enough to make it out of camp in '13/14 but good enough to be first call up this season and look at him now??? A beast working his way up to becoming a monster!!! Do you guys still think Torts mishandled him?????
What's that I smell? Oh, it must be the can of wh-wh-whoopass that Chris Kreider is starting to open on the league! Someone take him to the barn to learn how to punch and he'll survive just fine on the ice!
I honestly believe either Rick Nash is playing hurt or playing not to get hurt. Perimeter game only, not going into the trenches or corners or anywhere accept to the blue line and then out of the zone. He is not skating hard on the backcheck, isn't finishing checks---and he never really did those things throughout his career--but he was a beast in the offensive zone, and unfortunately we are not seeing that for long stretches. He was a beast in 3 games this season. At the Kings, at the Stars and at the Bruins. He has been invisible at home.
@Phildill This is the second or third time Kreider has had the balls to confront and retaliate for liberties taken on teammates.... remember that game in which he took a penalty knocking that opposing player almost into his own bench towards the end of that game for picking on Stepan? I thought that guy was going to start crying after Kreider nailed him.
@PhildillI did miss that. Read about it in the Post this morning. Loving him right now.
@shoot_the_goalie Wow, just goest to show you that even all the hockey pundits can get it wrong.... what a bust... Kreider thank God, can skate and not lug around a lot of useless bodyweight...
@LGR8Don't forget last year's playoffs.
@KreiderisTheChosenOneHaha - let's give them MDZ and a new car for Krug and Lucic
Also, remember, Kreider was playing with a bad foot/ankle all last year.
I don't think Torts did a bad job in theory with Kreider, but Torts also didn't give Kreider top 6 minutes to "find" his game and relegated him to the 4th line often where his skills were "wasted" . I think more credit should go to the AHL staff and Ken Gernander for developing him into a more all around player.
@Betweentheworlds Carcillo is better than nothing...He is nastier, meaner and stronger than Dorsett...
@JBianco Carcillo is a legit tough guy.... a legit mean, nasty player who makes his money intimidating others.... he is not a super heavyweight, but he is scary enough to make others think twice, and to give our players some confidence that someone has their back [more than just poor Derek Dorsett, who has been doing ALL the heavy lifting]
@gravey94 Nothing wrong with a little Youngblood reference.
Living down here in Virginia, I had the NHL Network HNIC feed. I saw it on replay. He's a beast and now and is officially an "edge of your seat player". Damn, is it 7:07 yet? Drop the puck!!!!
He was constantly smothered by the opposition in last year's playoffs. Not enough talent on last year's team (or this year's team) to open the ice for him. It's clear Nash is not Crosby/Ovi level where they can open ice on their own. Nash needs a playmaker who opens ice for him to do his thing.
@Kevin DeLury although when trading for Nash the idea was he would be able to score and open space himself, that clearly is not happening. they need to go to option B here and get him a center to open up space
@shoot_the_goalie@BetweentheworldsTrue, but you don't "find" your game in the NHL, that's what the AHL is for and Ken and Co. get credit as well, absolutely. He was not top 6 ready for the NHL He was largely a non factor with no physicality on offense and a liability on defense IMHO. Torts' roll will never really be known by any of us or how instrumental or detrimental he was in Kried's development but it makes for some good debate fodder. All I know is that I see the results now, I see what happened last couple seasons and base my opinions on that. You know I was never Torts' biggest fan.
Problem with Slats/Dolan is that they get big name pieces but pieces that never fit well together. Last time the NYR had a big name player who had great chemistry with another player was Jagr/Nylander, and Sather blew that up and then tried to patch that up with Gomez instead of someone who could actually play/compliment Jagr's style.
@LGR8@shoot_the_goalie@Kevin DeLury In fairness, teams didn't play tight defense against the CBJ back when Nash was on that team, because you didn't have to cause they were so bad. Also, not surprising that Nash has been at his best with NYR when the NYR still had Gabby. Even Gabby being on a different line took defensive heat off of Nash a bit. Once Gabby was gone, Nash's production dropped cause everyone could just double team and smother him. Boston did this to perfection in last year's playoffs.
Joe Thornton. Nash and Thornton were dominant with HC Davos (ok...not the NHL, I know), but they were also great together in VAN '10. Thornton a UFA after this year. If he can be had for a short term contract, I think NYR should go after him if they can get him for under $7m per (which would wash with Richie's contract if the NYR buyout BR)
@shoot_the_goalie @Kevin DeLury @LGR8 Good discussion.... Nash can't do it all by himself... he needs a Tonto.... someone to ride shotgun for him, who is also dangerous.. not sure who that is at this point.... Also, Nash has NOT been Nash since he sufferered his concussion..... he is playing tentative. A bit like Lindros. I am afraid he will break like a vase if hit again... I hope I am wrong.
@LGR8 @Kevin DeLury Nash is playing tentative... he is playing like he is hearing footsteps.. although last game in Toronto, he did have a couple of good moments... he needs to regain his confidence. Let's put Carcillo on his line for a few shifts and tell Carcillo he only has one job... protect Nash.... a la McSorley/Gretzky.. what do you think? haha
@Kevin DeLury Gonna be a long 2nd half my friend. gotta buy some extra Jack.
@shoot_the_goalie@BetweentheworldsYes, Krieder clearly was not happy about how he was treated and his hat trick against spoke volumes. touche! In fact I would surmise that if he felt that it was OK to get benched by his coach and see- sawed back to the minors that he does not have the belly to be an NHLer - but results so far say that Torts did right by him and if he does indeed develop and go on to be a star I bet he thanks Torts in the end. Really good points Shoot - thank you
I agree. I'm sure the AHL staff listened to what Torts wanted out of Kreider (and other players) and implemented the plan set forth by the big club. Do I think Torts mishandled him at times? Yes. Torts was careful about developing his young guys though, and didn't want to heap tons of responsibility on them until he though they were ready for it (see McD). I think Torts was actually really good with the young guys. However, you could even tell from Kreider's pre-season interviews that he felt he was not given a real chance by Torts. Also Kreider indicated how much his foot injury affected him last year, but didn't want to sound like he was complaining.