The New York Rangers (27-22-3) lost to the New York Islanders (21-24-7) by the score of 5-3, tonight. For a box score, go to Yahoo! Sports.
...i have one word to describe tonight's game: Meh. Even at 2-0 and 3-1, I never felt comfortable as the Islanders were dominating puck possession, so I'm not surprised they ended up giving up the lead. While I'd rather have a cavity filled than lose to the Islanders, I'm not going to kill the Blueshirts. They've been too good for too long not to think they might be due for a stinker.
...one thing I was encouraged by tonight, was that although the Rangers were being badly outplayed the entire game, the contest was still in doubt with five minutes to go. A month and a half ago that game was over by the end of the first period. That's what happens when your best offensive player is at his best and the power play is scoring goals.
...how appropriate was it that Girardi flubbed that final opportunity at the blueline? Man, was he bad tonight.
...he wasn't the only one on the blueline either as Del Zotto looked as lost as he's ever been and even Staal made a terrible read on the McDonald goal.
...i love Kreider, but he takes some pretty dumb penalties sometimes. Although, I got to thank him for keeping me from looking worse than I already have by stealing Stepan's goal.
...man that Tavares guy is going to win a few Stanley Cups once his contract is over with the Islanders and he can sign with a real organization.
...i didn't think Talbot was at fault for any of the goals, but let's just hope what kept Lundqvist out of the game was really an illness and not what we all hope it's not.
...so this is the Nash Blue Jacket fans were so upset about losing. Going to throw something crazy at you guys. My one concern with Nash going on a run like this is that his teammates will start relying on him too much instead of continuing to do what's made them so successful the last month. Something to keep an eye on.
...Boomer Esiason is so not letting Matt Martin take his daughter out on a date tonight.
...not much offensively for Zuccarello, but still impressed with him getting in Grabner's face for taking a shot on Talbot after the whistle. #therightway
...the good news: Callahan had seven hits. The bad: he had zero shots on goal.
...apparently the "Carcillo Effect" didn't get the memo that he's supposed to start some kind of fracas in his first Rangers/Islanders game.
...what made me so angry about the losses earlier this season is that it came down to effort. Tonight the culprit was mental errors, which I can deal with. It's impossible to think that an NHL team is going to have peak focus for 82-games. Especially, playing their third game in four nights. When I will start getting upset about mental gaffes is when they become more consistent. Let's hope tomorrow's practice will allow them to re-focus and get ready for a St. Louis Blues team who's going to come into MSG on Thursday night with a bad taste in their mouth after being trashed by the Devils tonight by the score of 7-1.
Post game talk...
Anyone else just a little perplexed at why Girardi was even on the left point for the faceoff after the timeout with 20 seconds to go? Be real curious to hear AV's explanation on that.
Time for Callahan to be traded..... he WAS great and still is pretty good, and he is ultra competitive... but I am afraid he has been worn down, like tires with 50,000 miles on them. He gets injured way too much and will continue to get injured the way he plays. Right now his trade value is as good as it gets, so let's be smart and trade him and get something meaningful in return.....
Oh, man ... between MLK Day and the snow storm I guess I lost track of the days ... I thought the game would be on tonight! I missed it.
Well, losing this one at the Garden means we'll win in the Stadium, right?
Agree 100%, especially your point on Nash. I was starting to get the feeling last night that the rest of the guys we're expecting our 4th to be his hat-trick. The 2nd and 3rd lines all seemed invisible compared to the last few games.
And was also disappointed that after we blew the 3-1 lead to get to 3-3 that Carcillo didn't do something to wake up the team. I thought that was his "thing"?
Still wondering how the game would have turned out if Krieder put that one in when he was alone in front. Game would have been 3-0 at that point, and would have deflated the Islanders a bit. Instead they come down the other way and put one in, changing the whole dynamic of the game.
Islanders deserved that win, they outplayed us pretty bad. It was only up until the last two minutes of the game the ranger showed dominance and that was with a man up and a tired bunch of islanders caught out on the ice lol.
Can't win em all, but that would have been a GREAT game to steal away. Sometimes you need that, just to grab a win even when you didn't "win" the game.
I received some bad news last night....had to cut out early...but to make thing worse....I watched the end of the game later on.
Up 2-0...and again 3-1....against a team who had just won an emotional game the day before...and playing their 4th game in 6 nights....and who's D corp is a hot mess right now with young players logging big minutes. A relentless forecheck would have done the job....taking the body consistnetly would have done the job.
But this is a pond hockey squad...up and down...that's our game. We are seeing a lot of open space right now....which.. with our speed...we are capitalizing on. You will not see that space for too much longer......teams will adjust. And come playoff time....all that space...just disappears...you gotta fight and battle for that space.
And my brother, Mr. Islander himself....will give you some his texts during the game...from his eyes...about our club..."
"Dang..got us on the ropes"
"Besides a couple of guys...lotta love taps"
"You guys are just skating around out there"
"Where's the hitting?"
"You need a big time hitter on D"
"Two words...no forecheck?"
" Passion level and intensity lacking...keeping us in it"
There were more...but you get the idea...from the eyes of an Islander fan"
His last text was this..."Stole those points. Thank you. Your team..big and speedy...come playoffs tho....bye-bye space"
Outplayed by the Islanders for the entire game except for a few shifts.Outcoached because they did not change or adapt their game plan sucessfully after the first or second periods.Nash is one of the bright spots but you must have more than one line playing well.Rangers didn't have enough jump, among other faults in this game.Outplayed and outcoached.
Everytime. ... We lose u get to see the inconsistent mistakes and lack of effort from those same players..... who s mistakes and inconsistent play is hidden when we are winning
GIRARDI IS WHAT HE IS. Horrible........
Del Zero. Sucks
Etc.... same list all the time.... We will never amount to a championship till we change our roster
worst thing to have is a winning streak
All those guys are trade chips. In my eyes
Kreider and nash were beasts last night. Imagine with a No 1 center
Cally had a Cally game just no points
Is anyone else concerned by the lack of puck possession we have been showing lately... We had a stretch where we had a dominant for check and controlled the puck but couldn't find the back of the net. Now it's seems the only way we score is on an odd man rush or special teams. The forechecking is sporadic and no longer dominating and although it's nice to see Nash finally show up the overall effort highlighted lastnight has dropped. We definitely laid an egg against the fishsticks but I hope it's a wakeup call.
Also disappointed that carcillo was so quiet - is he getting overworked without Dorset or a Haley type to take some of the load? 4th line as a whole was timid.
Brass and Zucc seemed off, are the hobbit jewels a bit tender still, and pouliot was trending toward poopsalot. On the PP I am not sure why Zucc has switched places with pouliot and is now in front instead of on the half wall, but every time this happens the PP suffers.
Ritchie, Cally and hags had 1-2 shifts where they had any impact, but overall were sightseeing most of the night like the rest of the team. Hags speed was never really a factor and his stone hands are back. So much for Kevin's ability to jumpstart...
The d and d support was absolutely horrendous - cam got hung out to dry.
At least we didn't get crushed by Calgary like pissburgh did! On to the blues who will be fired up - LGR!!!!
I don't know why they stink. The isles are fast skilled abd tough. I'd love okposo to come over as an fa this off season. I think hammonic and his laser shot is ab rfa too no? Ten years of first overall picks has done the fishes well...lol
Also I know we can never beat the fishsticks and the devils... but we better fricken beat them at Yankee stadium!!!
On another note... Rangers west (Columbus) =The hottest team in hockey. Now that they have Horton back and Bobrovsky playing like a vezina tender they have been unstoppable of late. Watch out for them. Back to our game... Kevin I don't get how you blame that penalty on Kreider. Too many men with 7 players on the ice goes on the coaches not one player... The kid had three points tonight and along with Nash was the only player that had an impact and youre throwing him under the bus?!?!?! come on... Zucc shouldn't have cut his hair because he was lost out there tonight
I thought Cally played a tough, hard-hitting game...and yet again the rest of the team didn't come close to matching his intensity. I have said it forever, Cally's spirit, as good as it is, is not contagious. If everyone insists that his "character" is so important then this simple truth is a HUGE thing to ignore. Side note...my God do I wish we had Tavares.
100% Agree with everything you wrote, still disappointed though!
Tavares is something special, curse those fish sticks.
Here's to Destroying the Blues!!
the majority of the game was perplexing!! We were clearly being outplayed and yet managed to be up at both intermissions. My question is about what was said in between the periods. The defensive lapses and lack of physicality continued all thru the game sans last 2 mins. AV didnt have to go all Torts like, but a little "c'mon guys, get your head out of your asses and finish this!" would have been nice, no?????
@JoeyKocurI agree with these other guys, he has been playing like his old self since being back, he had no points last night but 7 hits which is his game. You really want this team to be worse than it is?
I disagree ... His style of play is exactly what this team needs ... especially in the playoffs. I agree with you that he has been injury prone but he brings too many intangibles to the team outside of scoring. Wish we could transfer his toughness, heart and skill into Boyle's body. Who I think they should trade is MDZ and Stralman. Now .. I know that's unrealistic to trade both but in my opinion they both need to go.
@JoeyKocurrespectfully . . .
you're an idiot. . . with all due respect. Please tell me, who you get in return for him and how you fill that gap? He's 28 years old and team captain, scores minimum 20 goals a year and leads with physicallity and is your most consistent and hard working player? Don't be stupid. You trade him, he wins a cup before we win a playoff series, guaranteed.
@xxscaxx Good summary of what happened/could have happened!
@McPhee37 If the Rangers make the playoffs I hope they dont get the Isles or Devils in the first round, they always play tough against us
@mando24179 Woooooooooeeee is me!!!!! If this team sucks so bad, why are you a fan? You must really be stupid to follow such a woeful team... please explain your thinking???? I am sure we all want o know why a guy who thinks the Rangers suck all the time is still a fan....
@BringBackBeukeboom Because they are on Long Island... when they eventually move, they will be good! :-)
@KreiderisTheChosenOneThe last time I checked Kreider has eyes. He tried to cheat by getting on the ice early and got caught. And the reason I focused on the penalty over his scoring is because it ultimately cost the Rangers the game.
@Say my NameI like your point on Cally's intensity not being contagious. Do you have any thoughts on "why".....new coach?......different line mates?.....different philosophy on winning? I love the guy but he doesn't make the team play a harder game....what is your take on "Why."
Callahan has not been the same guy this year... thats just my opinion.
@Say my Name Most of the time, the Fishsticks bring their "A" game when they play the Rangers. They have a chip on their shoulders, because they play in the shadow of the Mighty Rangers. We have the brand name; we have the bright city lights; we have the cache.... they have The Long Island Expressway??!!! They played well, but unfortunately for them, they will always be number 2 or 3 behind the Rangers in brand quality! :-D
@Gottalovetheblue Tavares's dreams of playing in New York every night. Living and playing on Long Island, must be like spending time in jail.
@NYRBlueBlog@JoeyKocur WTF? What did Joey do? First, I love people who say..."repectfully" and then call someone a name. That makes YOU a hypcritical asshole. All disrespect intended. So far as Callahan goes you are missing the point, but then again you missed the point of "respectfully"...so there's that. First, you don't measure a trade by what it does for another team...unless they are perhaps in your division, and even then it is not as big a deal as a fan would think. Your only concern is what it does for your team. Trading players poised to be paid more than their contribution mertis is a huge part of a successful program. Yes, you often lose a year or two of value, but you GAIN not having to pay for several years after when the player is not playing nearly to the capacity he had been, but still being paid as if he were. PLUS....you get whatever trade return you got back? So you see...you don't measure the return as merely the players you got back, but those players PLUS the flexibility you will have in a few years to spend on someone actually EARNING money commensurate with their contribution. Lesson over. Now get out of here fanboy...go peddle your wares somehwere else... come back when you can have an intelligent debate without calling someone a name. ...and yes, I only respond in kind to that kind of shit so don't even go there.
Here we go with the name calling.... This roster is flawed. And has many of the same type of players. ... very inconsistent and not very passionate. The is no fire and most times when u don't have that from a player that is something u can't teach. Either u have it or u dont.....I viewed the game and saw many guys gliding back on the back check..... Guys gliding around behind Kreider and Nash who were hustling and skating their asses off creating chances between themselves.
I see guys skating and pulling up on body checks.... I saw the smallest guy on the ice.. defend a late shot on the goalie... wether it was or wasn't. .. He stepped up. ..
I saw alot of lazy play.... mistakes from the same people that Consistantly play that way and at times that spreads. ..to the ones that are playing hard... now they begin to force things and make mistakes themselves.
last night's game attitude... changed once we had 3 goals to 0..... it went from trying to win the game... to not trying to lose the game....2 different attitudes...and concepts..
so whoever can't see this team is deeply flawed is the stupid one and doesn't know shit but mediocrity. . And it's acceptable..... for me it is not
I been a fan. ..and remain a fan..... Due to loving my team... the logo. The heritage an original six team. The history of the great players....i don't kiss anyone players ass.... for me it's about hustle and effort.. and that will result in wins and championships. .... anything else is a failure....and whoever can't understand that is as u put it MUST BE STUPID....why be a fan and not wanna win championships what's the fucking point
Here is my take. .its more that attitude and the lack of heart in the team.....
Cally plays his heart out. Sacrifices everything at all cost for the team. Team before himself....and there aren't many on that team that have all that....
Look at the leadership of players...
Staal -has no been himself due to injuries. That being said he Isn't a physical or vocal guy...
Girardi - he is very soft... mentally and physically. .. He will block shots but not do everything else
Richards - not physical. A shell of his former self... Shows flashes but it's not enough
Then u have players Like
Hags. Stepan. Boyle Stralman Brassard
all not physical players
Zucc is the only one I see as cut from the same cloth as Cally
U need players that value and respect the effort and sacrifice. ... Cally makes and would go through a wall for him. But as u see more than half. Won't or cant..... Cally can't will his way to make them play better. He cant carry a team scoring wise.... He can only do what he can only do. Do to size and physical ability... love the guy and his heart..... to bad there aren't more on this team like him
It's also the coaching. .... AV is soft and believes in a soft line up..... Cally excelled on a tough fore checking team..... playing on the PP standing in front of the net...... and the coach isn't doing that with him now. ... u need strong leadership behind the bench. On the bench. And on the ice....
Haha! I'm laughing again. The joke's on me!
I didn't even read your whole comment. I saw the "disrespect" part," but not the last line.
I shouldn't have even commented ... Hahaha
PLUS...I said...All DIS-respect intended. I think you missed that. :)
`Name, didn't you just do the same when you said, " I love people who say..."
Hahaha! I thought that was funny, otherwise I wouldn't be chiming in. Sometimes people get into the name calling and stuff and I'm not into it. It's especially lame online. Most people wouldn't act the same way in person. But to each their own. Obviously everyone is entitled to their views.
Here is the deal. ONCE u get that taste of how much money u can make... Once u win.......Dolan is all about. The money....can tax advertisers more... charge more...
I agree with much of what you said but I include one more piece into your argument. Dolan .... He's an owner who seems to only care about making $$$. Yes ... He invests in player salaries but does he care more about making money or winning championships? IMO ... he cares more about making a profit and having "yes" men surround him. What else could explain Sather still being GM for all these years and is STILL the GM without a Cup or even a trip to the finals?
@mando24179 I saw the same stuff you saw. I am in agreement with your ideas especially when they come without name calling. Your last question says it all....."why be a fan and not wanna win championships what's the fucking point?" .......Most people here (including NY Media) don't want to win a cham[pionship and don't think about the game of hockey and the NYR in the same "championship winning way" as you and I and a few others on this site do.
Thinking about scoring goals is very tactical. Thinking about winning The Cup is very strategic. Most people are not Strategic Big Picture thinkers. Go easy on people but keep your ideas coming....you teach and I learn ..thank you!
Was going to respond to this in the other thread, but here works, too. Don't completely disagree with you, but there are too many men on the ice at almost every line change. The difference in Kredier played the puck before his guy was off. When you're coming on and you know your guy is still coming off, you have to be more aware. The puck was heading right at him, he practically landed on it, and then immediately played it.
Bigger point is he's averaging 1.3 penalty minutes a game under AV, up from his average of 0.3 under torts. I recognize that he's getting more playing time, and he's being asked to be more physical and more aggressive to help make space for Nash (which should be noted, he;s doing a good job of), but I just think he needs to hurry up and figure out where the "line" is. A lot of his peanlties seem to come in the 3rd period, and none of them (that I can recall) are "good" penalties (preventing a goal, sticking up for a teammate). Other that the fight with Phaneuf, i feel like its been a lot of tripping, holding, interference, and goalie interference. It's going to happen, I'm not asking the kid to be squeaky clean, but last night wasn't the first time he put an opponent in a position to get back in the game.
@mando24179We are on the same page...thank you!