After practice today, Ryan Callahan refused to comment on the on-going trade rumors (via Bergen Record)...
“I’m not going to talk about that stuff now. I don’t think it’s productive for the process of negotiations or anything.”
Alain Vigneault did say he expects his captain to be in the lineup on Tuesday night against the Avalanche.
Meanwhile, Derek Stepan discussed Callahan's importance to the team (via Daily News)...
“I’m biased obviously, but considering what he means to this team, what he’s taught me and what he’s meant to my pro career, it would be very tough to see him go … The business side of this sport is difficult. I went through it this year. It doesn’t say anything about the organization or the player. It’s just the nature of it … That’s the hardest part. It’s not personal.”
...if Sather really wants to re-sign Callahan, allowing other teams to speak with his agent as a strategy to lower the 28-year old's demands is a huge gamble. Callahan just needs one team to come close to his asking price to call Sather's bluff and then the Rangers are screwed because it's either match the offer or send him packing.
...on the other hand, as reader gravey94 points out, Sather allowing teams to negotiate with an impending UFA will only increase the captain's trade value as he's essentially eliminating any risk those suitors may have had about Callahan possibly bolting over the summer. Which could easily lead to a bidding war.
...Sather is either going to look like a genius or a bum. It should be real interesting to see how this plays out.
I graduated from PJHS in '61 with the ferraro bros. dad' Pete.In the early "70's i lived next to St Martin of Tours by the water tower and my niece still lives in Sound Beach.
I agree,just sayin' Dubi held out had a soso season and gone...Stapan held out is soso...We've also given away first round picks,even though they were later in the first round...t Cally wants 7 they offer 5 ..lets hope for 6 and done. keep Cally. .I just want to keep our picsk and continue building from witin. Though I do like BIG and Tough.
Cally works harder than Nash shift by shift... Nash is hot now but 30 goals this year??? Its the rangers curse...Trade Mother Theresa to the Flyers and she becomes King Kong...Trade King Kong to the Rangers and he becomes Mother Theresa.
you'll be sorry you mentioned trade one day just like you are right now about mentioning it with hank.
Callahan for Dubinsky.... come on, given your handle name, you should be salivating at that trade! ;-)
just to prove how mislead by the media everyone can be: rick nash is on fire this season right? ryan callahan in the pits right?.....
RICK NASH 39 GAMES 27 POINTS
RYAN CALLAHAN 39 GAMES 21 POINTS
RICK NASH 7.8 MILLION CAP HITRYAN CALLAHAN 4.2 MILLION CAP HIT
SO STICK THAT IN YOUR GM PIPE AND SMOKE IT FOLKS.IS RICK NASH PRODUCING DOUBLE RYAN CALLAHAN? BECUASE HES GETTING PAID NEARLY THAT MUCH. ADD IN THE INTAGIBLES OF CALLAHAN AND THE FACT THAT HES BEEN HURT ALL SEASON AND ITS A JOKE WE QUESTION THE MAN
John Davidson was in town for Sam Rosen's 30 anniversary as a broadcaster.... but did he also kick the Callahan tires to see whether Cally might fit with Columbus???? If so, let's do: Callahan and Dominic Moore for Dubinsky and Foligno... what a trade! Let's do it!!!!
so we want a guy who flys around the ice hitting people, dives in front of shots, goes to the front of the net and stays healthy the entire time. right
its funny everyone brings up injury prone but when he's playing with the badly separated shoulder battling to beat the caps in the playoffs last year he's the man right? you don't get it both ways folks. you don't play like ryan callahan and stay injury free , period the end. you want "injury free" players check derek brassard and derek stepan who don't know what the boards feel like.
david krejci - 5.2 / mike cammeleri - 6.0 / tuomo ruttu- 4.75 / ryan oreilly - 5.0 / nathan horton - 5.3 /shawn horcoff- 5.5 /stephen weiss- 4.9 /ales hemsky- 5.0 /mike richards- 5.7 /jeff carter - 5.2 /mikkou koivu - 6.7 brian giantA- 5.0 tomas plekanec- 5.0 /patrick elias - 5.5 /ryan clowe- 4.8 /travis zajac- 5.7 /bobby ryan -5.1 /mike ribeiro- 5.5 /brent burns - 5.7 /martin havlat- 5.0 /valeri fillapula- 5.0 /jeoffry lupul - 5.2 /nick backstrom - 6.7 /blake wheeler- 5.6
RYAN CALLAHAN 4.2 million asking near 7 will most likely sign for 5.8 or 6.0so ryan callahan at 5.8 or 6 million for the rest of his career pretty much compared to these players looks pretty good if not awesome.
everyone always talking about the NYR fans being the best, you read comments and blogs like this and you have to question it. This whole season has been nothing but fans pissing on loyalty and I'm sick of it. First it was the trade hank, now onto callahan. disgusting. You want to play fantasy hockey go play it but if you want to be a ranger fan then be one. enough with the pissing and moaning and trying to play GM. If any 3 players make up the core of the rangers its callahan hank and girardi and they deserve to be paid. Not because i have a warm spot but because they are damn good hockey players and the basis of our defense first hustle style (still). If you were talking about signing callahan for 3 million over then ok but when it comes down to it its the same as hank, the difference of a year or 2 and less then 2 million per year. So ryan callahan gets paid an extra year or an extra couple of million, big fucking deal. thats our captain, red white and blue C alone is worth a couple million. show some respect, show some dignity , its the captain of the team and the engine behind it all.
Trade Callahan for Moulson and swap firsts in next years draft... That gives us a replacement player for this year (and each of us can sign the guy we get)... Also gives us a shot at Mcdavid/Eichel... seeing as Buffalo is more than one piece away from competing. That would be the trade
Buzz: What Glen Sather is trying to do with Ryan Callahan on.sny.tv/1fLbOwm
Says it all no one going to give cally what he wants except buffalo
Interesting... even in an off season. Look how important Henrik Lundqvist is...
Drama! It's all a game in the end. Much more is known about this and discussed then we know. Allowing other teams to talk is irrelevant being that agents are always doing that on behalf of their clients (unofficially) anyway, though I get the point about trade value. We'll see. My feeling is that Cally wants to go somewhere to be the centerpiece of a rebuilding but competitive team where he can be the "marquis" free agent. As I've said in other posts he gave his heart, his blood and his soul to this franchise and I do not berate him the opportunity to seek the big bucks. I understand people thinking that if he's so loyal and wants to stay he should give us a hometown discount. some players would but mostly you get one shot at a huge deal and he's earned that with his heart and will, which are both superior to his skill. We'd be smart to give him a take or leave offer and if he doesn't bite then trade him quickly. Don't think he's going to stay but keeping my hopes up.
plus i grew up in sound beach so i dig the name , LGR
well said , thats where im at. he's asking 7 getting 5 now and will settle around 6 which I'm ok with if he gets back to old cally. i agree with the picks though your right i forgot we lost `1st rounder for nash , that does hurt. who knows what that might be .
not true lately. we haven't traded anyone recently who you would regret.
at one point i was pissed callahan got the C over dubi but then dally put me in my place. he's the man. not dubi. dubi learned from him. great combo but i take callahan. dubi better skater, cally better hands smarter.
So by that logic Ritchie is living up to his contract and Zucc deserves the same mega contract since he's tied for the points lead and second in goals?!?
Media is misleading? Um, no. No conspiracy here. I love Cally and have criticized Nash, but their numbers are not that similar.
Nash has 616 points in 757 career games, good for just over .81ppg. In 11 seasons, he's had 30+ goals 7 times, and 40+ goals twice.
Cally has 250 points in 444 career games, good for just over .56ppg. He has never cracked 30 goals in his 8 seasons.
Defense may win championships, but goals help too. Dynamic 40 goal scorers are more scarce than defensively aware 20 goal guys, hence they get paid more. That's just economics.
Sorry, who on this blog said Rick Nash is an exemplary way to get your money's worth? Of course he has underdelivered earlier this year. No argument there. Callahan is good. But everyone has a relevant price. Using Nash and his earlier poor performance as an argument to pay Callahan more is not the right comparison to make.
@DubiLeetch Dubinsky and Foligno for Callahan and Dominic Moore.... let's do it!
You are comparing two extremes.... There are plenty of tough forwards who play hard and do not suffer the number of injuries Callahan has. He IS injury prone. Just a bit too much wear and tear...
@DubiLeetch No way.... Callahan at 4.8 is good.... can you imagine paying a 36 year old Callahan more than 4.8 million???? I can't. This is what keeps the Rangers AND Knicks UNcompetitive.... remember the famous Alan Houston???? Long term contracts are a big risk. IF WE TAKE THIS RISK IT SHOULD BE WITH A DURABLE PLAYER. Not a player that has seen his best days already or is injury prone and wearing down....
its the same thing as the lundqvist deal. even if you paid callahan a million and half over his value at 6.5 million you are only waisting the value of a fourth line player. right now the rangers have about 4 million in cap space , right now. and we are haggling over callahans couple of million why so we can sign another dominic moore? its ridiculous to play GM but if you are going to play it at least understand value vs replacement.
@DubiLeetch Not trying to be a dick, but the Rangers overpaying 3rd line injury proned grinder is somewhat the reason why they win 2 cups every 54 plus years. Loyalty doesn't win championships. DO you see him taking less because he loves New York and wants to show respect and dignity to the fans? Hell No!! He couldn't care less about that. He wants as much money as he can get. Alot more then hes worth. He is trying to get overpayed his value. He is an injury proned 3rd line player that surpased 50 points 1 time in his career. He can be replaced and at less then what he is asking. For me loyalty is in the front of the jersey and not the back. Rangers have to do what is the best for the team. Overpaying Hank then Cally, then Girardi, then you have all the other guys going into FA asking the same. Sather needs to put his food down and take control Cally doesn't want to lower his years and take what he is worth then ship his ass out asap. Yesterday....Us fans pissing on loyalty is the same thing is what he is doing. Homegrown talent trying to assrape the Rangers. We should just pay everyone more years and more money so we can have a shit team and not afford anyone during free agency. Why not. We can win another championship in 2048 then. I care much more about the Name in the front and not the back. Cally can be replaced if he wants that contract. If hes willing to get what hes worth then sign him up. I love cally but in 7 years we could see a drury 2.0 in the making.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne so buffalo would have the option of spending 35 million on callahan and losing there high draft pick and moulson or just keeping the pick and the money. what do you think they will do cmon
yep.... and if that is the case then you have to move him for something (Chris Stewart and a first or second would be great). I am sorry but all this money being thrown around (in the cap era) is just too high risk based on the reward you could be getting. There is so much that could be done with the 13 million saved by not overpaying Cally and buying out Richards. And lets not forget we still have some other big contracts coming up... Stepan and Staal are due for pretty sizable raises next year. I really am not comfortable giving Callahan this huge contract, having said that if they do end up giving him 5 for 6 I probably won't quibble about it because it is still a way better contract than Richards...
Agents don't "unnoficially" talk to other teams about clients. Its called tampering and its against the rules.
i didn't compare rick nashs career to ryan callahans. i compared this season. and all your doing is proving my point because nash and callahan are doing exactly what they have done there whole career. thats my point, people are overeacting and don't check the stats. dynamic 40 g scorers are scarce? we traded one last season. rick nash hasn't had 40 goals since he signed this mega contract (2008-2009) hows that for economics jack. read the above post about how you are playing fantasy hockey and not thinking about anything but points. pk , pp, shot blocks , hits and leadership.
he's better then every 3rd line player in the league. and if you watched ryan callahan at all in his career you would know his point total is the last thing you bring up because he offers so much more. he's getting 4.8 million right now. 29 year old athletes reaching free agency for the first time don't take pay cuts. its a union , he's asking for bit more then he deserves. you see all the players listed above? some don't even get 50 or kill penalties, play power plays, block shots and throw top ten in the league body checks and act as great captain daily. you don't just bring up the points. how is he assraping the rangers by asking for a raise the first time he's ever been a free agent? he's making 4.8 right now meaning the rangers think he's at least worth that, for him to make 5.8-6 when the cap is going up is so reasonable. do you look at other contracts at all? if he scores 25-30 goals and plays the pk and such he's worth about 5-6 million, period. if he does that can be an argument but to say he's assraping the rangers is just dumb.
Right, and there have been a few tampering cases throughout the years but in general that is a tough rule to enforce
My name is not Jack. I have never played fantasy hockey.
By only comparing their performance this season, you are neglecting their past performance—and past performance is a huge part of contract negotiation. By acknowledging Nash has only scored 40 goals once since he signed his current contract, you are proving that point.
In the last full NHL season (2011-12), 4 players scored 40 or more goals. If each team had an active roster of 23 players, then that’s 4 of 690 players in the league, about .06% (not including extra players called up because of injuries, etc). .06% is a low percentage, which is generally associated with scarcity.
There is a higher percentage of active players who have scored at least 40 once. They are still scarce compared to guys like Callahan, who have only scored 20 or more at least once (Cally, 3 times).
Callahan certainly contributes more than offense, but most would agree players comparable to him are compensated for about $5-6million, not $6-7 like he’s seeking.
You mentioned that we traded another former 40 goal scorer. That information has no effect on how unusual 40 goal scorers are. It also has nothing to do with Callahan, Nash, and their respective contracts.
Everyone acknowledges Nash is on fire now, he’s scored a bunch of goals in a short time in the recent past, so there’s some press coverage about that. But many in the press criticized him earlier in the season—as did many on this board, including me. Cally, to my knowledge, has not received much negative press coverage about his play as he’s been injured much of the season. Not sure why you think the press is manipulating facts there.
I’m sure you’ll have a lovely, aggressive, frequently capitalized response with yet more bluster and tirade. I have to go back to work, though, and won’t be able to explain things to you any further, Jack.
get real players don't take pay cuts to stay at home when they are 29. he's been going by union rules since day 1, now after all his hard work its his time to name a price and you are going to ridicule him for aiming high? if he was 40 and at the end of his career ok you have a point, he's 29 in his prime for shit sake .
@DubiLeetch @KreiderisTheChosenOneIf a team really wants to sign him long term they might trade up to improve for the home drive while gaining an advantage by having the rights to negotiate a contract before July 1. and if said team has a good player who doesn't fit in with their plans. like perhaps St. Louis's Stewart who's ice time has been diminished of late they might use that player to lure a trade. I hope the Captain stays too but just saying a trade doesn't have to blow up the season.
the most a team will give up is a mediocre player and a draft pick. which means we would give up on 2014 by trading callahan for future assets (more money, draft picks).not going to happen. we are a win now team. richards gets bought out and we sign stastny, dally, girardi, stralman no problem
@KreiderisTheChosenOne @DubiLeetch we trade him it means we give up on the season because we won't get anything back. you really think sather will pull the plug on the season and trade the captain?? cmon. the people we want back aren't going to happen, teams aren't giving up a good player and 30-35 million for ryan callahan. he's staying 100 %