Update, 11:51 a.m.:
In just-posted blog: Heard from three different NHL people that Marty St. Louis did request a trade last month from Lightning...— Arthur Staple (@StapeNewsday) February 26, 2014
...Cally trade for St. Louis back on?
No one really knows what Ryan Callahan's exact asking price is right now. However, numerous reports have the number at close to a ridiculous seven-years, $47 million.
Now, Callahan's agent, Steve Bartlett has the nerve to tell Pat Leonard at the Daily News that his client's demands are a "discount" from what he could get on the open market...
“In my opinion, we are trying to close the gap,” Bartlett said. “I’m always keeping the lines of communication open.
“We have no misconceptions that if the (Ranger) feel it’s not within their best business decision (to re-sign Callahan at a certain price), a trade could happen. That’s a decision they have to make,” Bartlett said. “We are both well aware we could get a phone call tomorrow saying you are now a member of ‘X’ team. But we’re going to keep working. I’ll never be never inflexible in discussions … and I can say that, despite all the reports … this is not a case where we’re out in the stratosphere at a number that no one would be willing to pay.”
The Rangers have reportedly offered Callahan a five-year, $30 million deal.
According to Katie Strang at ESPN.com, Callahan's agent reports that the two sides are expected to get together this week....
“I haven’t talked to them since before the Olympics,” Bartlett said. “There’s really been no dialogue since I left. Either we talk this week or it’ll be pretty clear what direction they’ve decided to take.”
...say whaaaaaaaaaat?!?!?!?!?! Almost $7 million per for seven years is a discount?!?!?!?! Callahan needs to sack this agent immediately unless he wants to wake up playing in a new city on March 5th.
...there's been a ton of debate on the blog regarding Callahan. What he means to the Rangers and how that translates into worth in free agency as well as on the trade market. However, throughout this entire process I have yet to hear ONE Rangers fan defend Callahan's asking price. If Sather is forced to trade the Blueshirts captain it 100% falls on Callahan as the Rangers offer is more than fair.
...to put Callahan's almost $7 million per year asking price in perspective, Steven Stamkos makes $7.5 million per. I mean seriously, should Callahan be anywhere near Stamkos' salary? And even if this is merely a shoot-for-the-moon initial offer, the trade deadline is a week away. When exactly does Callahan plan on lowering that price in an effort to negotiate a fair contract and continue to be the Rangers captain?
...truly boggles my mind how recklessly Callahan is overvaluing himself. He is a very good player who gives his all every night. He truly is the heart and soul of the Rangers and would be missed greatly the next few years. But if he for a second thinks character translates into being lumped in with the elite players in the league, I hope Callahan will enjoy his time in Buffalo.
well the topic from salary to nauseaum...I sit & feel Cally cant last 5 6- 7 yrs
i dont see it ...biggest deterrent is his grind ...see Prust and what happening w/ him ...injury bug constantly ,we got Dorsett to replace younger as tough ...
Sorry as a Gm has to get value now while it is supposedly so high...
It's all just marketing strategies. It's like putting a pretty label on a box to make it more attractive to potential buyers. Cally's agent is trying to package Cally as "franchise player" - we know it's BS but that's business. I wouldn't get to up in arms about it. His heart and soul make him close but sorry - not a franchise player like Stamkos, Sid the Infant etc. I know everyone wants to get something back but the smartest move for slats would be to keep him on the roster and make other trades to give us a better chance of winning a cup since right now we are somewhere between "snowballs chance in hell" and the Jamaican Bob-Sled team. If he walks he walks but this gives them till July to negotiate. Free agents walk. It's life, and new ones get signed but Cally is an important part of this team this year and right now is all that matters. If they can miraculously get true value for a lame duck than fine, but otherwise let him play out the season. Enough already!
Did Callahan's agent, Bartlett, really use that double-negative in that statement?
I’ll never be never inflexible in discussions
Was that a slip? Does this mean we can count on him to be inflexible?
Bye bye Captain Greedy. Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Mac truck will take that C right off your chest.
So a lot of people arguing against Cally wanna put up salaries of other guys that are "better." There's another side of that coin if you'd really like to make that argument...
Tyler Myers - 7 years - 6mil/yr
James Wisniewski - 6 years - 6mil/yr
Matt Carle - 6 years - 5.75/yr
Tobias Enstrom - 5 years - 5.75/yr
Look, I'm not going to chagrin a guy for trying to get as much as he can, it's a job and that's what all of us do, but he's not worth his asking price. I'd love to keep him, but if a reasonable deal can't be reached, use the money on Stasny who IS worth that much.
I honestly don't blame him for trying to get the most he can. He probably knows exactly what we know ... His style of play combined with his size will not equate to a long, productive career so now is the time to cash in. With that said, no way should they re-sign him for what he is asking. If he truly wants to be a Ranger then he should come down on his demand and realize that 5 for $30 is still an excellent contract. 5 years from now, if he's still productive, he'll be able to get another 2 or 3 year deal for good money. He needs to realize that the Rangers Stanley Cup hopes do not hinge on spending top line $$$ on a borderline 2nd line players. Their hopes hinge on signing a true top line center that will require the financial flexibility his contract demands will not allow. His contract will set the precedent for other wingers that are in his same category.
I'm trying not to let this piss me off, but I am. Look, its about the money on both sides and I understand that. But, to be the Captain of one of the most storied franchises in hockey? Are you kidding me. If I had Cally's skills, I'd like to think I'd be happy to do the job for half of what he is asking for, realizing its easy to say that and its another thing to do that. I just think he's got one of the best jobs in sports and his asking price -- emotions aside -- is total horse bleep when compared to sooooo many other players.
Any chance one of these guys (or hell, both) could be part of deal to get Kesler from Vancouver? He's rumored to be on the block, could be the tough(er) #1 center we're lacking, $5/mil for another 2 years after this one isn't awful. And you know torts would love to get his hands on Girardi or Callahan for the playoffs (assuming they qualify) or for the first crack and signing an extension.
Just a thought...
callahan started real high @ 7, the rangers have reportedly offered 6, WTF are we arguing about? I've been saying this all along people what is the issue with 1 million in salary when the cap is going up and we are currently under it by 6 million. when it comes down to it, we are running callahan out of town over 1 million and how pathetic is that.... 1 MILLION. ahl players salary, thats what we arguing about.
How is Cally not a franchise player? Besides being the captain of an original six team, he is #6 on 2013 most purchased jersey in the whole NHL...ahead of lundqvist.....not sure what your definition of franchise player is but when people are buying his jersey more than anyone else on the team and more than 95% of any players in the NHL, he is a face of the franchise....
@AG_Blue Inflexible means unwilling to change or compromise, but this statement here makes it a little tough to tell if he's willing to or not
Ask the fan bases of those 4 teams if they currently like those deals. Why join a list full of bad contracts?
Let's not forget clarkson at 7 years just north of 5 mil and he only had 1 good year...and Ryane clowe, who I like as a player, gets 5 years around 5 mil and also never hit 30 goals and has a worse injury history than Cally (concussions way worse than occasional broken bone from a blocked shot....then gets ANOTHER concussion right at the beginning of this season....)
@MichaelSanducci 5 Years 4.5million per would be my top offer. Take itor take a walk. He will be sadly mistaking if he thinks he can get what he is asking for on the open market. ( Good buy, good luck, good riddance.)
SRSLY they should all be like OMG i'm playing on the rangers and play for cracker jacks and just be thankful they play in MSG and kiss Dolan's feet any chance they get.....
yeah actually hank should play for free, better yet the dolans have billions why do they even charge admittance to the games? get real.
@johnnyb3910 It's a stretch. I'm assuming there would at least be rumblings about it if it were the case though. But you never know. Both coaches would certainly be okay with it given the familiarity
@DubiLeetch we probably think he's worth 5, and are WILLING to go 6. don't you see that. just because you offer 6 doesn't mean your willing to go 7. just stop
@DubiLeetch It also has to do with length. Also, if you gave every player 1 extra million ud give out 23 extra million dollars.
How is he not ? Are you dumb he has no skill he just has heart for what he's asking they could sign two players of our own or whoever is out there I love cally but for what he's asking I'll be happy to trade him
Cally is not the franchise player. He is one of the favorites.......that's how u sell jerseys....... hank is the franchise player.....
People get caught up and can't separate the two. .....u don't build a team around Cally. U build it around hank......If Cally was gone today we would survive. If hank went today...Would not. He is one of the elite players... sorry to say and I love Cally and how he plays. But he is NOT an elite player. ... and that's reality.... If he was. Every team would be lining up..... to have him and they are not
In Hanks case. If he was being offered. Just bout every team in the nhl. Would make an offer
That's how u separate a franchise player and a favorite player
@StAlphonso I would define the franchise player as the 1 or 2 guys you build your entire team around. Maybe using the word "centerpiece" would be more descriptive. Has nothing to do with captaincy, T-shirt sales etc. Mark Messier, Sid the Infant, Lunqvist, Eric Lindros (pre-concussion), Wayne Gretsky etc.. Not always your best player but your most important one. . This is the package Cally's agent is presenting to the league and I'm not dissing on Cally but he just is not on that plateau IMHO - perhaps Buffalo will buy it but on B'way he can be the Cap't the heart and soul guy etc. and make 6M a year.
@AG_Blue And he also said he's trying to close the gap......isn't that not being inflexible?
If 6 mill a yr for 5 yrs is crackerjacks
I don't need the prize
U kidding me do land built a billion dollar business empire and own the team if you do not like it leave
If you told your boss your pAying me peanuts I'm worth far more what would he tell you
Goodbye mr cally
If 30 mill is too little you have an overinflated opinion of your game
Don't wait for slather to blink
Enjoy the balmy buffalo winters u shd thank al gore for global warming
Take it easy there Skippy no need to start calling people dumb....as for saying Cally has no skill I must disagree with you...guys with no skill don't score 25 goals a season...guys with no skill don't play both the pp and pk....guys with no skill dont get named captain of an original six team and lead them to the ECF for the first time in 18 years or whatever in his first season as captain....he's one of the best grinding forwards in the entire league...He's also been top 3 in scoring for the rangers three years in a row.....he doesn't have the skill of those top guys like a Crosby, ovi, Kane etc.....and I've said numerous times 7/7 is too much for him so I agree what he's asking is too much....but to say the guy has no skill is just wrong
But right now Cally's pending UFA status makes him severely undervalued in teams knocking on the door at this second....it doesn't mean plenty of coaches and GMs wouldn't LOVE to have Cally and you better believe they would...but why give up a roster player now for a rental when things have gone into the media that he's looking for a big time contract and he could just walk....thus no security....I agree that 7mil for 7 years is too much....but I think if he was signed in his first year of a 6/6 deal or something and was being "offered" then teams would be lining up for him right now...but that's not exactly the case...just sounds like he wants to test free agency and let the market value him
Also id think if hank was realistically being offered at the deadline and wasn't signed and pending UFA and all these talks of how much he wants, not only wouldn't there be many teams knocking either, everyone would be saying trade him get a younger goalie who's decent and costs half as much plus a pick
@StAlphonso For Buff-town he could be a centerpiece so we'll agree to disagree on that one, however for your other points I'm with ya. There is not a single coach in this league that would not love to have Cally and you win cups with Cally type players.
I got ya but I disagree...I think Cally could be a centerpiece for a team...he just brings so much and is exactly the kind of player any coach would love to have in their lineup...and he's such an important part of the team look at how crazy the last few weeks have been and how rabid the fan base is when discussing him...but I can certainly see where you're coming from and I agree 7m for 7 years is too much but I'd be happy with 6 for 6 personally and think he is worth that
Very very true....just think bueller and myself were trying to make the point those comparisons can go both ways since so many people were comparing his demands to contracts that only support their argument but ignore all the other contracts that don't support their argument
He grew up in Rochester. A duh
That's my point enjoy all that money in obscurity up in no where's land money. Goes a long way up in alcoholics paradise
@Bring back Langdon And don'tlet the door hit you on the ass on yout way out! That's what Dolan should tell him.
he grew up there , I'm sure he doesn't need a weather report
@Bring back Langdon The OP suggested he should be playing for half of what he's asking for, or 3.5m/yr which for Cally would be peanuts. 6m/yr for 5 years is definitely reasonable, and I think should be settled at 6.3.
@DubiLeetch @Nyrangers You can look at it like this...say you gave him a 5 year contract worth 30 million, you can say you're paying him 7 for the first year, 6.5 for the second, 6 for the third, 5.5 for the fourth and 5 for the last year. That way he's getting paid more while he's worth more. It averages out to 6 million per year. 7 million is a substantial raise over 4.8 but like all athletes, he'll lose value as he ages.