Even after Ryan Callahan's agent reached out to the Rangers again yesterday, Steve Zipay at Newsday reports the two sides appear no closer to an agreement on a trade, or an extension.
Zipay adds that if a trade is imminent, Callahan will likely be designated as a healthy scratch to protect him from an injury while final details are being worked on. So if Callahan dresses against the Oilers tonight, it is a very good indication that he'll remain a Ranger at least through the Olympic roster freeze.
Meanwhile, yesterday, Larry Brooks at the New York Post confirmed that Callahan's current contract demand from the Rangers is likely seven-years, $47 million.
Finally, Elliotte Friedman at CBC Sports has this very interesting quote from a Glen Sather-era Oiler on the Callahan situation...
"[Sather] is so competitive. He wants to win every trade, to win every signing. He grinds you. He tests you. I went through it. I'm not convinced they won't get something done."
...that should be changed to "he grinds & tests his own free agents, while carelessly throwing boat loads of money at others." Which is Sather's right to do, especially with RFAs, but it really is bothersome to me how frugal he can be with his own players, while opening the vault for players such as Redden, Drury, Gomez and Richards. I have to imagine it also rubs some of the current players the wrong way as well and could be the reason why Callahan is demanding so much.
...the Rangers current hot streak has made Sather's dilemma with Callahan that much more complicated. The Rangers are looking more and more like a legitimate Cup threat with every win, so now Sather has the added pressure of possibly destroying a magical season by moving the team's heart and soul. Now, I by no means think the Rangers will fall apart if Callahan is traded as there's too much veteran leadership on the team. However, I do feel that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts with this team. And the current Rangers team will not even be close to whole without its captain.
Cally is loved and respected 2nd or 3rd line BUT ...are you paying him for what he's done or what he will do ? not at that price .Team will not skip a beat ,plenty of character ,teams will pay his price(Buffalo) must get value or Sather is not the shrewd operator building a great team for yrs ,farm system for depth and next yrs cap space leads you to know (believe) we will be a powerhouse .
Girardi is set up for same fate ,hence the genius of Klein trade,clone of Girardi for 2-3 mill for 5yrs... leverage is the name of the game ,Sather has built a damn good team now that will challenge ...wait till next year as long as he gets the max out of both situations ....Go Rangers seeya in jUNE !!!
Stupid to let him walk for nothing. Besides, did we win a cup last year or something with the roster as is? I agree, things can go either way after we trade him but at least we will have something for the future. Not just our "heart and soul"?! Cmon people, its a business.
I don’t “get the nothing in return” comments. Is there anybody gettable that is going to have the same impact that he has the potential to have for the rest of this year? We’re talking about a run here boys! Roll the dice and enjoy the ride.
hearing San Jose thinks Cally can put them over the top maybe they give a top pick and prospect for a rental, chance to resign him
Many comments here support keeping Callahan through this season even though he likely walks, getting nothing in return. I love the guy, but doing that is just plain stupid. You cant let a player of his caliber walk without getting something in return while you can.
its a no win situation,had to know from the start that cally(capt)/tortarella is not a A V capt.?he is so smooth biding his time honing his system with players that will flourish in his attacking system from center ice to the net ...I Love Cally and the foundation built as to what a ranger hockey player should be...
BUT...a 3rd line winger who is not on P P only the kill is worth 6 million for 5 yrs ? that offer tells me how much he is thought of...Buffalo needs a foundation
builder like Cally ,get what you can and its A V 's team officially ,use the break to heal and come out to a sprint to the playoffs ...Stanley Cup hopeful...
Speaking of Richards- is a pay cut less humiliating than a buyout? think it's an option to just get him down to 4.5 where he belongs next season? probably more complicated than that
Sather has to put his foot down eventually, it is to bad its with Cally but he has to set a presadence that he is not going to give any more 7 yr deals to anyone anymore. But you make a great point that he gave to outsiders and not his own people. so if he breaks his new ways then he should be shown door right then and there unless it for a home grown super star and he for goes a bridge deal to lock up
Simple: because the Rangers are most likely bettr off WITH him for this season, and they likely won't get anything truly worthy in return. Plus, come one, hes not going to walk away because no one is going to give him what he is asking for and he will see that it is best for him to sign with the rangers, who will give him a fair deal. If nothing presents itself trade-wise, Sather should just ignore it for now. the team is looking great. Call his bluff. He'll stay for 5 years at 6 per.
Richards currently has the contract that Cally wants. 6.7 x 7 year deal is ball park on what Richards makes for this year. Does the assistant Capt. (Richards) really deserve to earn more than the seasoned Capt.? I would be just as demanding since he has proven himself the heart of this team and taken a backseat to the over-paid players. I can't be alone on this right??
The crazy thing is that you know, just know, that there is a GM out there willing to give Cally what he's asking for (7 years at 6.7-6.8m) Do I think he's worth that? No. Do I think the NYR should pay him that? No. But this isn't just about his performance on the ice, but also heavily involved in his marketability. That's why Hank got the contract he got (even though his performance now is justifying that contract). The problem for Cally is that he shares and sometimes is overshadowed by his fellow teammates and other sports figures in the big NYC market. He can actually be more valuable and marketable in more focused big hockey markets...being the face of that city's sports. That's why someone, somewhere will pay him what he wants. Wouldn't surprise me if TOR made a run at him if he hit the open market. Cally's demands are not going to go down much here I think.
The best thing seems to be to keep him through the playoff run. Then if he walks he walks. You never want to lose a guy like Cally and get nothing back but you can use those bucks to shore up a guy like Statsny this summer. I love Cally like most here but I hope they don't overpay him. His importance has actually slipped a notch in this new system in my estimation and his leadership, grit and productivity are replaceable. Even 6M is higher than market value.
"quote from a Glen Sather-era Oiler"...Would that mean Lowe or were there other Oilers that became GMs? You can't compare Sather being "frugal" with RFAs and his own players befopre becoming UFAs, and those on the open market. When he has leverage, he uses it to the fullest extent possible. Unless there are no other bidders, he has no leverage when it comes to UFAs on the open market. Players who don't understand that need to wake the eff up and realize how things work. Is he supposed to pay them a ton of money because if they don't perform they'll then pay back a portion? This is a tough situation for sure. BTW, the last time the Rangers traded their captain was when they traded Brad Park to Boston, the last time Sather traded his team's captain was when he traded Mark Messier to the Rangers...not a good omen.
@pkh33 Calm down Coach Chadwick.
he's not going to walk because no team is going to give him a better deal or provide a better platform than the rangers, and he knows it.
why would you take a pay cut when you can get paid your full contact all at one and resign with another team for more. that would be pure stupidity.on his part. never going to happen
i think i asked about that previously and the CBA is not set up for renegotiated contracts and the buyout does not allow a team to buy you out and resign you. It would be great though.
@NYrangers79 that would be 3rd after the richards buyout. of course he's asking for 7 so he gets 6years, but i just feel it's too long. he's not going anywhere unless another team offers sather something he can't refuse. he's not gonna walk as a free agent. Nash and Lundqist would command that price tag on ANY team in the league, Callahan and Richards would not. That's the bottom line
Its too big of a cap hit for him, if you can layer the deal with incentives and bonuses that would make it worth it to me. also, DO NOT GIVE HIM A NO MOVE CLAUSE.
maybe not what he asking for (buffalo is desperate they might) but more than sathers willing to give
this is the dubinsky problem, you have a heart and soul guy but is he expendable and how much will it impact the team? and what is that worth to the team in the long term? how scorned will that player feel? I know Dubi was hurt and has extra fire when he plays the rangers now
I see what your saying with the captaincy but would you pay Ladd more money than Evander Kane or Brown more than Kopitar? The captaincy is just a unique leadership quality that some players have and some don't. I think we can all agree Cally should not get paid more than Nash (although a certain points this season, it looked like he should have). He should be paid what his respectable style of play is as I mentioned in an earlier comparable player post. Scroll down and you'll see it.
Everyone keeps talking about Buffalo, but there's another more frightening option. What if he becomes a fishstick? They have a ton of cap space, are a good young team and Cally would bring some much needed leadership to them. That would just be awful!
If any team will use him for that, it's Buffalo. Other than that, he is just a great addition to a playoff team that's willing to over pay him.
@gravey94 FYI, Messier demanded that trade and it was early in the season (October, 1991). Apples and oranges to the current scenario.
@gravey94 I 100% agree with you on how Sather treats his own free agents (especially RFAs), but sometimes, as a fan, I get annoyed as it seems like a lack of loyalty. God, I hate the business side of sports!!!!
Didnt Sather trade Leetch to the Leafs?
@mlsranger @DruBreezayHe has soo much fire playing against us.. Miss Dubi but lets be honest, we let him go because he just couldn't finish.. Cally on the other hand he'll capitalize on his chances and he is just the player we NEED on this team.. If Cally walks, imagine playing against him.. He'll send Nash or Richards flying! =]
@josh930 @DruBreezayTrue indeed, but he is homegrown Ranger.. The type of player (allow me if I could) Jeter is to the Yanks.. He grew up before our eyes and a core guy like Cally should not be overlooked. Sather / MSG network have all overlooked Cally. They're only excited about their top paid stars who I find a hard time liking until they produce a pt in a game. Lets be honest, if Cally doesn't have a pt or a goal in the game, he'll do the little things those top stars don't.. And those little things add up to me.
I think BUF can use him, but they'll suffer paying him a contract like that (even though their ownership is more stable now) I can actually see TOR really benefiting from Cally. (he'd be a citywide superstar there, not just a hockey superstar) Maybe even DET, MTL, or VAN (though I can't see him with Torts again) Even BOS (though I don't think they'll be that interested cause Jacobs is so stingy)
Rarely do players/GMs show loyalty to each other or to the team anymore. They all have a hook, and unfortunately, it's about what they're gonna get out of it (money). All that "loyalty" talk or how "they always need to be a Ranger" or "this is a great organization" is all PR BS. There are exceptions, but they are rare.
Leetch was our Jeter and you saw what happened to him. And the man that did that is still in charge. I love Cally as much as the next guy but I'm not paying 1+million more to him than Brown, M. Richards or Jeff Carter. They are all the same style player. Brown asked what would work for the team so he could stay and make it work for the rest of the guys. Cally wanting 7mil is about $$$, not staying and winning a cup. If that's what he wants, happy hunting. I don't know whether to call this on him or his agent but it sure looks bad from our point of view.
I'm just saying from a marketing standpoint Buffalo would benefit the most by overpaying him and making him the face of the franchise being a hometown boy. He would easily be the best selling jersey in Buffalo and probably made captain. Lets face it, Buffalo doesn't have much else going for them. Get the fans back in the building by bring back the hometown boy and not worrying about the price. Ex. Zach Parise
Any team would benefit from his play, but it's up to them if he's worth 7mil a year.
er...haha...I don't know. What the eff was that, Tourettes? I'm all for a rambling rant of meaningless and irrelevant craziness..lol...especially when it slams a subjective derogatory name on someone and then submits it as if it is empirically proven. So hat tip brotha! Good job. I was just speaking to the point of how rare but refreshing it is when the stars align and business takes a back seat. I thought it was pretty clear...still do. Are you pre-gaming?? ;) LGR!!!
mookie went bankrupt and wakefield played for 50 yrs or so it seemed like. Pedroia is a moron (thats a known fact) good player tho and baseball players play 3x as long as hockey players in their career and get paid on average more too where you going with this apples to oranges
Dustin Pedroia likely left nearly 100 MILLION! on the table. Napoli left 1 year and over 12 Mil. Lester is making it obvious that he will give a steep home town discount. Wakefield never used an agent the last portion of his career. I don't think Mookie Wilson did either. That said, I don't think it is indicative of anything other than a truly rare aligning of the stars. I don't begrudge either side the business aspect of the sport, but it sure is nice to watch the rare occasions when it takes a backseat.
One thing to keep in mind though (and I loved Leetch so this is no knock on him), but his contracts with NYR were back before the Cap was instituted. From 99-04 he took home more than $6.5 mil per season, on a contract that looks like it increased by $1 mil per season from 99-03, topping out in 2002-2003 at $9.68. In the one year he played after the cap, he signed a contract (with the Bruins I believe) for $4 mil. So to say a guy making close to $10 mil (and earning close to $62 mil in his career) would have been willing to take a home-town discount to play his last seasons here, is a lot different than expecting the same from Callahan, who's current deal averages him $4.25/year, for a total earnings to date of $19 mil and who's looking for a contract that will take care of him through the end of his career. There's no doubt in my mind that if Cally signs a 5 or 6 or 7 year deal with the Rangers that when it ends he'd love to sign on for a another year or two for next to nothing, but thats not the point he's at in his career right now.
I'm not saying it's wrong, as he wouldn't be doing his job if he was just handing out huge contracts to his own guys, but players like Cally, Step and Dubi have and did do great things for the Rangers and it sucks to see them have to go through it.
Like I said, I get it's a business, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
Why I loved Brian Leetch. He truly wanted to stay a NYR. From what I've heard/read, he would have taken a STEEP discount to finish his career here. But I don't blame Slats for trading him either. (just wish he didn't do it by voice message on his birthday!) David Wright another good example. Took less money than what he could command to play on a crap team. (I'm a Mets fan too!)