When Rangers fans finally deciphered Boomer Esiason's not so cryptic tweets that a Ryan Callahan for Martin St. Louis trade was in the works, most wondered about the former NFL quarterback's credibility.
To me, there should be no question. His sources are impeccable and nailed this rumor, unfortunately, they seem to be late to the party.
Bob McKenzie at TSN confirms that the Rangers offered Callahan to the Lightning for St. Louis in the immediate aftermath of the Tampa captain being snubbed for the Canadian Olympic team by his very own General Manager Steve Yzerman on January 7th, but adds it's not happening.
McKenzie noted on his blog that while this story is just now finally coming to light, it's a couple of weeks old and perhaps outdated.
So, why isn't this trade happening? McKenzie explains here...
"Tampa, especially now that Steven Stamkos is closer to returning, is a potential Eastern contender. St. Louis is a huge part of the Lightning attack and if you take a primary offensive catalyst out of the Bolts' lineup now, it's difficult to believe it could be accomplished with Ranger captain Callahan coming the other way on an expiring contract. Yzerman would want and need more from the Rangers than that.
And as long as we presume the Lightning want to remain a contender in the East this season, trading St. Louis for future considerations or younger, unproven players presents its own set of unique problems in the short term. As for the Rangers, they're not about to start giving up draft picks, prospects or young players for a 38-year-old. So the Tampa-NYR fit doesn't appear to be there."
McKenzie did add that there is reason to believe in the immediate aftermath of the Canadian Olympic team fiasco, St. Louis indicated to Tampa management he may look favorably on a move out of Tampa.
McKenzie further noted that there has been talk that the only team St. Louis would waive his No Move Clause for was the Rangers as his off-season home is just outside NYC, in Connecticut.
Damian Cristodero at the Tampa Bay Times says that it would be a public relations nightmare for the Lightning if they traded their greatest player and Yzerman is all about acquiring young talent that helps insulate the organization from salary cap pressures.
Meanwhile, Darren Dreger feels the Rangers would have loved to make this trade...
Dreger: "I can assure you that if that deal [TBL St. Louis for Callahan] was ever proposed that the Rangers would make it instantly."— Neil Greenberg (@ngreenberg) February 24, 2014
...unless St. Louis is putting immense pressure on Tampa management to get him out of town in response to being initially overlooked for the Olympics, I can't figure out how this makes sense for the Lightning.
...but beyond that, seeing reports from a reliable source such as McKenzie that Sather has in fact offered Callahan to another team has me in full panic mode. Especially when reports are that there's been no progress in contract negotiations.
...i'm holding out hope that Sather merely saw an opportunity to get Callahan's name in a legit trade discussion involving an elite return that he knew would never be accepted as a negotiating ploy. Although, I guess when the initial offer never made it into the rumor mill as the Rangers GM had likely hoped, he decided to feed it to Boomer.
...now don't get me wrong, Sather should under no circumstances cave into Callahan's absurd demands (six-years, $6.75M per) in an attempt to keep him in a Blueshirt. However, no matter whose at fault, it's going to be a sad day in Rangers history if he's moved because in the end the only ones who lose are the fans.
The Rangers are reportedly interested in the 22-year old, 5' 10' defenseman Sami Vatanen in return.
Girardi is seeking a six-year, $5.75 million extension.
...there better be some first round picks involved with that return for Girardi. No way the Rangers should be giving up a right-handed, first pair, shutdown defensman in his prime for potential. I need something legitimate in return.
Finally, here's Alain Vigneault on how his two homegrown players are handling all the distractions (via New York Post)...
“They’ve been New York Rangers since the beginning of their careers,” he said. “I know that they both want to stay here, and as much as they might say that it hasn’t bothered them, they’ve handled it in an incredible way.
“I’m confident that whatever happens here in this final stretch, being positive, I hope that they’re Rangers and I hope that they’re going to stay Rangers for a long time, but they’ve done a great job in handling it and staying focused on the game and I’m hoping that’s what’s going to happen here as we move forward.”
you all need some clarification ....2 styles (stay home or rushing)of D plus toughness or attitude ...
Giriardi never had the attitude ,he's tough but not in a demonstrative way,he has anchored and tutored our future (Mac )and steadied while our best natural D man gets back from the injuries (2 yrs)...in our A V system it exposes D and forces them to get extended .hence why Girardi struggled early and will at times get exposed and spun like atop...when he mistakes they are glaring...
Trots system(collapsing D ) was built for limited dmen who cant be out of position,not fast or quick to recover ....
Gman deserves respect for what he' done ...BUT we dont pay for that ,thats paid for....moving fwd. he will be the best 3-4 d man in game ...with larger cap coming we can afford to splurge a little a lock up for 5 yr @ 5mill
gives us back up in case Staals ascent hits a snag (injury),he is the next possible capt. because of his stature on team & cally HAS TO GO....cant indulge 2 ,for being great Rangers ..sorry Cally we will remember what we got for you & how it got us closer to the Grail........have a great finish to your career
THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES AND STANDARDS
I didn't think it would happen anyway. If you read through all the articles and rumors, you could figure it out. First, MSL has a no trade clause, so he'd really want to come here. I don't care if he has an off season home in CT. Air travel is easy enough. So, that's not a good enough reason to come to NY. Second, when has age ever been an issue for this team. So that doesn't matter. And more importantly, third. Steve Y. Wasn't just going to give up MSL for just Callahan, he wanted more. And who could blame him?. And slats was just looking for a straight up trade.
The Boomer rumor hinted at a move involving a physical type player with some skill for a NY guy whom we ascertained to be Cally. St. Louis certainly fits the mold as a physical type player, doesn't he.. And then we were to be trading a rental for last years leading scorer who at 38 can still play. Sweet! Yup, all makes sense to me. Now you're telling me this is not really going to happen? I don't believe it. You're lying! I would comment more on this but I need to smoke more crack, excuse me...
BTW If Girardi is asking for mid 5's for 6 years...what the heck is the hold up??? Paul Martin (who is a very similar player) makes 5 mil a year and got that contract a coupla years ago. Are we really going to not keep the guy for a few hundred thousand bucks a year??
Re: Callahan: The numbers have gone up and up since this whole thing started. I'm no fly on the wall but with all of the publicizing of these negotiations done from the Rangers end (trade rumors leaked) it sure seems like Bartlett would have to at least publicly take a hard line here (maybe to scare away other trade partners in some backwards way of making sure a deal is done with the Rangers?)
name 5 teams he isn't a top pair D man on. I bet you can't even name 2 can you. He is not close to a 3-4 dmen.
Cally is burning his bridges... as seen many people have now seen him in a different way. .... With that said now he better produce a cup or multiple cups and stay healthy.....If he doesn't he will amount to being Gomez..... another over priced underachiever....
He isn't worth 6 or 7 mil....When ur not even the face of ur own franchise or the top star....
If he really thinks he's as valuable as Ovi, Cindy and the other 6 mil plus group...I'll drive him to the airport myself!!!! Clearly delusional.....on his part
Here lies the problem Girardi is not the best dman on the team......He is in the position he is in on defense do to injuries..... i found that Staal is way better and sauer was a better dman....
The problem is how can this moron want 5.75 mil a ur for 6 yrs.....?
When MCD is our best dman.... and makes 4.7 mil....
That's 1 mill more a yr.... As McD stock rises.... Girardi s has fallen. He is a shell of what he was... doesn't hit as he did 3 yrs ago...... has never defended himself or team mattes.....and makes the same amount of mistakes as any other dman in the league.... u don't see them as much cause McD covers them up by his play
U'd have to be a moron to try and ask for that kinda money. While giving the effort he has given for the past 3 yrs. .... fuck him also and trade him.... Over paying a soft player.... why? WTF is wrong with people....
@jgaray @TomDundiemore to the point ..you name the top 5 teams and there top pair and who does Girardi replace...no one...he is not even the best pair on our team moving fwd.think what Staal -mac can do
Staal bigger faster the true thourogh bred who loves the attck style A V uses...
do you rate Girardi higher than Staal? the background to the future ,i think we will get Staals best for next 2-3 yrs + resign coming...I thnk G mans best is in Torts system ...DONE i still know quality and he has it BUT as dirty harry said ...a mans gotta know his limitations....
so do you !!!!
He is only in the spot he is cus of injuries ? Sauer played behind him when he was still playing
And stall is healthy and if ur point is that he isn't the same who was his 1st pair d partner before he got hurt
I yea Girardi u can't name 2 teams he isn't a top pair d man on
@mando24179 soft may be the wrong term so ease up on mondo asswipe PUSSY is the the word he hits no one gets run all the time and stands up for no teammates hank included so girardi may not be soft but his back bone is non existant
@mando24179 best deal for G man vs keeping for 5 +
I think we cant get hurt either way ...
You can't compare Girardi and McDonagh based on their salaries. McDonagh was an RFA. He agreed to get more money and years than he would have if he had gone to arbitration. Is he worth more than $4.7M, sure, but he agreed to that amount and will make his pile when his contract is up. Girardi IS a top 4 d-man in this league and probably a top 2 d-man on 60% of the teams. You don't like him, and that's perfectly within your rights, but his asking price his based on the market for top 2 d-men. He'll probably end up a shade over $5M for 5 or 6 years. Wideman, Bogosian, Streit, Bouwmeester are all in that area. Girardi is certainly on par or better than those guys.
@mando24179 what the hell? you are a moron. How are you calling Girardi soft? he has missed 4 games in his career and played in almost 550, and never missed a playoff game, the Rangers have played 64 in his career. All that time blocking shots, hitting, playing well over 20 minutes a night. Soft? you are a fool.
and even if you can name 4 teams he is still a top pair guy if he would be on the top pair of most teams
no Im asking for 2 players on each team. You are not a top pair player if 2 d men are better then you on that team. Ill give you keith and seabrook. but if your argument is that G is only great bc of mcd then the same goes for seidenberg
Chara seidenberg / Keith seabrook ..if McDonagh isn't Girardis partner I could probably name 27 more pairs.
Again asshole u asked for 2 teams. I gave u 4 teams off the top of my head. So that answers. Ur request and backs up the point...soon as u open ur mouth the battle of arguments are already won by the other person..... u lack of spelling and lack of knowledge have been shown.....
ur like a dick with no head. U exist but u are utterly fucking useless
You cant just name one player on each team. You need to name 2. Your whole argument is that I misspelled a name yet you cant even back up ur argument
u just said teams. lol you need to name two players on each which would then make in a 2nd pair not a 1st
I am gonna ignore the village idiot who doesn't know the diffrence between. No. And know
Can't even spell Staal. Right and spells it stall
It's plain as day u don't know shit about hockey... u asked for 2 teams i have u 4...... then u ask the neXT guy For 5 teams he gives u more than 5 teams..... Every time ur stupid question is answered. U move the goal post...
Dude stick to the funny papers. And books with pictures only...
name the two players on each team that are better then him
@jgaray nit pickin alittle ....named 3 top prs & sorry i dont know the d rosters to all the teams
IGNORANCE IS BLISS........
dont worry ...be happy !
Great answer......I'd say pitt as well they have injuries though. ..... This clown thins Girardi is a Morris trophy canidate....lmao. just cause u hear announcers say he is our shut down guy. Doesn't mean he is a shut down guy for the rest of the league smh.....
Dude when is it gonna finally click. U love STAAL so much u can't even spell his name right Lmaoo. It's STAAL not STALL. U dipshit... lmao at Girardi is better than STAAL......now ur smoking Crack
You are naming one player from every team or you don't no the name of the guy. If you don't no his name then he isn't better then g. And Kane plays forward I think u mean Duncan Keith. I don't think you gave one legit example of a team he would not be a top pair d man on. And u can't say if he didn't hav mcd he wouldn't b good and not say the same for doughtys partner charas Keith's soo I think you just kind of made my point
@jgaray @TomDundie We agree on 1 pt. Staal is and will prove out ,but i want g man to protect against carolina & injury...chicago :Kane & Seacrest? not sure of last name ..pitt: orpik Latang Boston : Chara Soderheim
Anaheim : Faulk /again name escapes me...L A top pair Doughty +
throw in ..weber + his partner nashville MInn. has Sutor + his partner I can actually find Montrals P K Suppan +
Winnepegs D Bfyuglin+
if Mac is nt G mans partner these are all potential over matches for our guys
Ok then name the 5 teams and who the two players are that start over him. And I love Stall but right now he is not better then G. He is younger and has more skill but G is a better shut down D man then stall and the perfect partner for Man truck. Plus even if Stall is better do u really want to bet the house he has no desire to join his brothers in Carolina. Its not crazy to think he would be tempted to join his 3 brothers. So again who are these teams.
pick a new team to root for, I am embarrassed you root for the same team I do.
Dude i don't give 2 fucks where u come from and what u gotta say. . How's that.....the dude is a pussy. No back bone....the end
where I come from soft means can't stay in the lineup, doesn't play hurt, and usually doesn't have a face like this.
Valid points, gravey, but I'm not sure I agree with the $$ - I don't think he should get more than McD, minute-chewer or not, he's part of a shutdown pair - he's worse with any other partner. Yes he's played "better" the past few weeks but I still see a player in decline.
And all this talk about Girardi being the next captain - no way, that will at some point be McDonough.
2 years ago he was an all-star. Last season was a shortened half-cocked season, and this season there's a new system. He's looked more like his "old" self since the Rangers have turned things around. Personally, I think he's worth the cost if it's $5.5M for 6 because there's not many other D-men that can do what he does for than price and because Staal, while playing well, is always a ticking timebomb.
My thing is dictated by his play not what he once did....He has declined. ...and for our team he had to give more... being atop 4 or even a top 2 dman
U made my point.....Ur gonna ask for next to 6 mil......u better bring it every night and every play ur on the ice... and he doesn't and has shown that the last 3 yrs
I am just being honest. ....
so shut up because the you are saying the dumbest shit i ever heard. 6 years ago he was good? he made the all star team like 2 years ago wtf are u talking about
@mando24179name one way he is soft d-bag. talking shit about a guy that is tougher and harder then u will ever be. Ur either a moron or a islanders fan
pt taken but somewhat crudely... G man is not a 1-2 BUT coming from where he started
( undrafted) super over achiever...BUT Staal is the thoroughbred...get past latest back spasm
(injuries ) he is as good as it gets and will get better in our attacking style system G man is worth the 5+ mill ...but if not good enough ...trade for value...hes the best 3-4 d man there is...MY main pt all along is get a top #1 and we create skill mismatches.. ie. stepan is a great #2,Brassard A great # 3 .....all lines will benefit ...same as D structure (gauranteed depth to last ) with expanded cap affording G man is O k not great but buys the depth you have to buy if for real...
I see it alll ...cant wait to get there !!!
My point is 5 to 6 yrs ago Girardi was a blue collar hitting separation from player and puck dman.... since the last 3 yrs he has become more and more reluctant.... to play any real kinda physical way.....my examples show what I am referring to..... He eats mins due to the position the team was put in due to injuries....Staal. and sauer..... not because he was the best dman. But by default
Let's be honest here.....
As far as blocking shots..... everyone on that team was and is locking shots....... Due to Torts system not because thats what he was doing... or his claim to fame......... see if there are stats pre Torts. Against a Renny run defense sceem... compare the numbers......
As my point show him skating away.. on any occasions.....u don't always have to show up to an altercation and fight
U just gotta show up and show the other guy ur not backing down. example Zucc vs Chair. And whoever else.... the dude doesn't show no fear...or skates away with his tail between his legs and looking down
@mando24179 he is practicing today. His dick is nowhere near my mouth at the moment.
He's a pussy.....just cause pay games and dont get hurt doesnt mean ur iron... doucje bag... the dude is a shell of what he once was....
Why don't u take his dick out ur mouth....maybe u'd talk with some kinda sense
@mando24179 well, you don't know what the definition of soft is if you are calling Dan Girardi soft. He is an iron man. As durable as we have ever had on the blue line. Stick to baseball.
Dude stfu. .... i can say what I want and how a i feel.....who are u to say I should not. .. or cant.
@jambodelta99 @mando24179C'mon Jambo, the guy's just expressing his opinion - good points though. Dan G is a warrior through and through Mando and a solid top 4 Dman, no, he doesn't slam bodies but that does not make him a soft player either, he plays a fearless game and is pretty damn awesome especially considering his modest skills set; and just because they got McD at a bargain should not have any baring on Dan's negotiations. Asking price is steep, maybe they'll settle at 5.25. My predictions from months ago still stand. Dan stays, Cally walks.