According to Larry Brooks at the New York Post, unless there's "an unexpected seismic shift" in contract negotiations between Derek Stepan and the Rangers, the 24-year old center will likely miss the start of training camp tomorrow.
Brooks reiterates that Stepan is believed to be seeking a five- or six-year deal in the neighborhood of $5 million per while the Rangers are believed offering a two-year contract worth between $2.75-and-$3 million a year.
According to Cap Geek, the Rangers have just $2.1 million in cap space, however, the Rangers could easily send Asham and Powe to Hartford to open up additional room. Placing Ryan Callahan and Carl Hagelin on LTIR is also an option.
...i got to tell you, just seeing where both sides are in the negotiations has me very concerned. They're not even in the same ballpark.
...having said that, negotiations can change on a dime, so this could just as easily be over this afternoon as October. Man it better not leak into October.
Brooks also mentions the unlikely scenario of another NHL team extending an offer sheet in the $5 million per year range to the RFA Stepan. If that scenario does play out Brooks says the Rangers will be forced to trade Brian Boyle ($1.7 million) or perhaps even Derick Brassard ($3.2 million).
...oh Brooksie. You just can't resist throwing in ridiculous trade rumor to sell papers can you. While Boyle would definitely be a candidate to get moved, no way in hell Brassard is going anywhere.
...anyway, Adam Herman assured us yesterday that an offer sheet for Stepan isn't realistic. Right, Adam? Right?
Meanwhile, Ryan Lambert at Puck Daddy wonders why the Rangers aren't being criticized for letting this drag on.
...ummm, because Sather has all the leverage and he'd be acting fiscally irresponsible by caving in to Stepan's demands. In fact I'd be all over Sather if he didn't take advantage of the fact that Stepan didn't have arbitration rights. It's the salary cap era baby, got to be smart.
...no doubt Stepan's been good, but he's only been in the league for three years and is far from being an elite player. Sometimes you have to wait to get paid and don't worry he'll get paid. As the Rangers have done in the past, Sather will extend Stepan next season to a lucrative, long term contract (buying a few of his UFA years) when they have more cap room
...although, if Sather would have just bought out Richards this offseason, Stepan would have likely been signed a month ago.
at the end of the day I think that Stepan will likely have to take the bridge deal, but by holding out part of training camp, he will likely get a little more per year. I say he signs a bridge deal at around 3.5 or 3.25
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Kyle Turris got a five year $3.5 contract last year. The salary bar is much higher this year than last and unless you think Turris is a more valuable asset than Steps, how can you expect him to take less money. If I were Step, I would hold out and force a trade a la Turris. If u think Stepan's year last year might be aberration, as some have suggested, I hope you are aware that he is perhaps the hardest working player on the team who has gotten better every year since midget hockey. By not buying out Richards and signing Pouliot and Falk, Sather gambled that he could get everyone signed on his terms. If he pulls it off, kudos to him and great news for Rangerland
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Stepan vs Tavares 2012-2013
Points Step 44 JT 47
Goals 18 28
Shots 108 167
Conversion % 16.7 17.3
PPG 4 9
PPA 6 7
Time on ice 20.55 20.46
Face off % 46 49
Hits 52 32
Plus Minus +25 -2
Tavares came in third in MVP voting.
Tavares does not kill penalties.
Tavares contract 6 years $33million
If you were Stepan, would you sign a two year deal for what Slats is offering?
I don't see any way that Step gets a long term deal. Which really sucks for him and for us, because he's 100% worth it. He has to watch his buddy McD get the big bucks while he has to swallow a shit sandwich.
Isles are the only team in the league that would make an offer sheet for step... Question is do they have the balls?
As usual Brooks does a lousy job because he injects his silly, and typically INCORRECT OPINIONS into his writing. Then again he works for the New York Post so that's business as usual around there.
As you said, the Rangers have more flexibility than the cap number lets on. Truth is that Ryan McDonaugh's deal is the going rate for a Derek Stepan these days (like it or not). Quite frankly I find it obnoxious that Stepan doesn't get a deal like that. He's a complete player, shown himself to emerge as a leader, and 50 points seems like his floor. At 6 years and 5 million a year (or slightly less) that will look like a steal when his UFA years start getting eat into.
I realize they are negotiating but the team needs him in camp now.
Somewhat unrelated... will any of the pre-season be televised? On MSG? I'm thinking about getting cable again (Time Warner in Brooklyn). I gave it up when Time Warner dropped MSG pre-Linsanity. It's been a while and it's been fine. Now with the lockout over with I'm ready to watch a full season on the big screen (rather than streaming on my tiny computer with my headphones on). I hope Time Warner and MSG are in good standing and I can enjoy it.
Does anyone know if there will be any camp coverage (prior to devils preseason game 9/16) televised on MSG or other networks?
I hope Stepan will simply understand the situation and take the bridge deal -- which should work out great for him over time -- so he can get on the ice and get into character.
The Puck Daddy article was just stupid. At least he could have read Adam Herman and had a clue, but no, he wastes everybody's time with that uninformed nonsense.
Let's hope he doesn't miss camp in an effort to get more money, then has a shitty season a la Brad Richards because he missed camp, and becomes NYR's newest buyout candidate.
Umm trading Boyle is not an option in my book, and Derek needs to suck it up and take the deal. IF he proves himself again this year then he will get what he asks for next year... COMMON young'un.... It is a simple equation!
Wow, Brooks think Stepan will miss training camp? So that means that Stepan will sign today around Noon? Islanders are not going to give him an offer sheet. Sather would do everything in his power to break that franchise if they did.
BTW, all this talk about Stepan already being signed if Richards was bought out....does anyone honestly believe that Sather would have used the Richards buy-out money to re-sign Stepan to a long term deal rather than squandering it on an overpriced free agent? If you do, then you need to readu up a little more on Sather's past with the Rangers.
I still dont understand why Stepan is trying to force a big contract now when the cap is low. In 2 years the cap will be higher and Richards wont be using up 6.5m so there will be more money available to give him a better deal. I can only guess his agent or family are pushing for it but it still doesnt make sense
not worried. a deal will be done. I just hope he's at shat st Mary's training his butt off. also...NHL14 today!!!!
Stepan needs to swallow his pride and take the bridge deal. The last thing we need is another Dubinsky scenario. Stepan will get his money in due time and it'll be a shame if he isn't suited for training camp and this thing drags on.
Can't wait til the puck drops. LGR!!!!!!!
Brooks is such a fool. I don't know why he's even quoted on here. He knows no more than we do. Sather wouldn't talk to him and he wouldn't allow his underlings to speak to him so where is he getting any inside info. Nowhere, he's making it up as he goes along. Just his opinion of this and he gets to put it in the sport pages. Stepan will sign, probably today. Someone will cave. These things are about the deadline. That deadline is probably Oct 3 in Pho but I'd like to think its today or tomorrow.
Brooks don't even know the cap spending. There's 4 mil in bonus money the Rangers could use in a contract free of cap charge. The Rangers don't need to move anyone with 6-8 mil to spend. I'd say that gets Stepan signed.
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@FREE LINDBERG That would be awesome....The final of the 96 World Cup in which the Americans beat the Canadiens was one of the best games I have ever seen. The intensity in the last 10-minutes was like a Game-7 in the Cup Finals. Richter was unbelievable & should make the Hall of Fame on that game alone. A tournament of that nature will be great.
Also as much as you have hyped Lindberg you must be pumped about Lindberg's play in the Traverse City Tournament? I know I am...What I liked the best was seeing him getting his nose dirty by being around the net. He went into the hard areas & scored some goals. You usually don't see Swedes go into those areas. Between Traverse & some Youtube highlights he seems more like a young Tomas Holmstrom or this guy is before your time but Ulf Dahlen who played for the Rangers in the 80's & was traded Mike Gartner. Ahysical guy who uses his strength & hangs around the net.
I can't tell you how much I agree with you. I've been vocal about this since July and I kind of saw this coming. It's not fair Sather preached these bridge contracts then signs McDonagh for 6 years. Mac deserved every penny but what about Step? Look at Giroux's 2nd contract and his stats. He is still on that contract but has since signed an extension. That's a good deal for Derek with maybe one more year added. Stepan has better numbers in his 1st 3 years. It's a bad year to be a Free Agent with the cap coming down. I think Derek should sign a 1 year band-aid and try again next year where the cap should go up. He just has to produce. In the Rangers Defense here I'd like him to do that one more time before getting a large contract.
Step is my favorite ranger. But your comparison in stats between him and Tavares does take something important into account as far as the pay discrepancy goes between the two. Tavares went first overall.
@shishya100 Not on your life, Step is becoming an elite player and he should be compensated for it now. If I were him I would stand firm on my demands. I'm sure that he would be well compensated in the KHL.
@shishya100 Nope, I'd just ask for a 1 year contract and demand a big payout next season or else I'd walk. Think he is then a UFA. Of course, maybe Stepan thinks his last season is a fluke and he wants to cash in now. He knows Sather's ignorance put the Rangers in their position and is not thinking of his teammates. A good to excellent season will put Stepan in the catbird's seat. If he holds out, he'll probably have a Dubinsky season and blow that big money. Stepan is a fool.
I agree - step is getting screwed, but that being said he's also screwing himself and his teammates at what could be the best stacked team in years. Combined with a new coach and the fact that rarely do holdouts ever really get what they want and generally end up causing more internal strife. Yes he's getting shafted and deserves more and slats should make more of an effort to meet in the midde, but instead of playing chicken with the season suck it up be the team player I always thought step was/is and and stick it to slats next year when the cap is higher. Demanding big money now when he knows slats is limited right or wrong and he knows the team is limited is stupid and unproductive - does he want slats to get rid of the depth that might bring home the cup?!? I understand that step is trying to get the best deal he can and what he deserves, but that's where both sides need to compromise - it will be a loose loose if he holds out!!!
@AG_Blue yes, all on msg
@craig_atherton a lot can happen in two years. It's the difference between a guaranteed $30M and $6M.
You're making sense. Obviously we don't know the whole story, but it is difficult to make sense of the current situation.
That's pretty ridiculous. The Swedes don't usually go to those areas. Maybe in the 90's or 80's even that could be said but these days nothing is isolated. Americans have played there and they have played here. They have tough guys in there SEL too. That's a bad stereotype. As you mentioned Holmstrom is case and point. He played on every inch of the ice and had a ton of jam to his game. There's many swedes that play soft but not all of them.
@Centerman21 Defenseman are much more in demand. That's why Sather gave McD that contract, plus McD has been more consistent than Stepan. Agree one year contract and if he has another good season, cash in next season. Bet he has a lousy season like Dubinsky after he held out.
@scrangersfan@shishya100Wrong. Let him do it at least another season. Stepan's attitude sucks. Will hurt his team. If I were Sather, I'd lower the price each week he holds out and let him sit out the season. Playing hardball with Sather never works, just ask Dubinsky. Still got 4 centers, Richards, Brassard, Boyle and Moore, then there's also Lindberg, Miller trying to win a job at center. Don't think he can come back to the NHL if he defects to the KHL.
He won't be a UFA for 4 more years. The Rangers own his rights for at least that long. He will be an RFA until he plays 7 years or 27 years old. Which ever comes 1st.
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@Centerman21 Bullshit. he can overrule his agent. The agent works for him not the other way around. His attitude does suck. Hurting his team when he knows Sather is cap limited and would have to get rid of players to accommodate him. He can cash in later.
Stepan is a great kid. This is more about the agents than the player. They tell him he can get more so he waits. It's not Derek asking for a big contract it's his agent because they get a % of whatever he gets. The bigger the contract, the more the agent gets. The players union is also probably pushing him to hold out for more $ too because the more he gets the more players like him get down the road. It's about past contracts when figuring Stepans value and so on. Derek might just wanna play. He's a real good kid. His attitude doesn't suck.