According to Larry Brooks at the New York Post, the Rangers have offered Derek Stepan a two-year deal worth $2.9 million per, while the center is looking more in the $3.5 million range.
Here's Alain Vigneault on his number one center's holdout (via New York Times)...
“I’m functioning as if he’s not here. Lots of guys are pushing. We’ll have to sort this out as we move forward. I like the way Oscar is skating. And I really like Kristo. Ryan is not here, Haggie is not here, and Step’s not here. I’m planning for the guys that are.”
...i know Sather has Stepan by the balls, but man the Rangers are squeezing him. $2.9 million per is almost an insult. I've got to assume if Sather can bump it to $3.1 million, Stepan would sign. Which is ridiculous considering the small amount of money (professional contract-wise) that could be holding this up.
...someone also needs to remind Stepan that after holding out for eight days, Dubinsky signed a two-year deal for $3.7 million total or $1.85 million per. So he'd actually be doing quite well at $3 million per.
Apparently, Vigneault admitted to Pat Leonard at the Daily News that the Rangers could potentially place Ryan Callahan (shoulder) and Carl Hagelin (shoulder) on long term injury reserve to open up additional cap space for Stepan.
That transaction would force the Callahan and Hagelin to miss the first 10 games of the season.
“Hockey’s gonna have a say in (who we carry on the roster), but the (salary) cap will also have a say in it,” Vigneault said. “That’s always the reality of today’s game . . . that question you usually ask the money guy.”
...this would only be a temporary fix as Sather would have to figure out the cap situation when Cally and Hags are eligible to come back. Got to hate the business side of sports.
Baby steps but at least it's something. Now if Step came back with a counter offer say in the 3.2M range I think we'd have something to get psyched about. In checking out other readers I would agree that Step is more valuable than even what he's asking, but is still young and not yet proven in the eyes of the league. The comparison to Richey I read (if Step had only "1 good" half-season as a reason to lowball why should Richey get bought out after one bad half-season) I don't see as relevant because in the cap world Richey in his absolute prime is not worth his inflated contract that was made before the new CBA and should have been brought out regardless of his last year performance IMHO - in other words it's not Richey, it's the contract and keeping him has made it difficult for Step to get a fair contract, and as well we cannot address our needs now for more power and grit down low. Anyway getting a bit off subject but the reality is what it is and I hope these guys can compromise and be realistic with one another. And you got to give Step at least 3M
Im kinda surprised no one on this blog is seeing this statement from AV for what it is. This thing has sather written all over it!! It's a squeeze job. Don't get me wrong, there's some truth to it but i think it's designed to suggest that Stepan's spot won't necessarily be there when this is over. If he signs this bridge deal too late and loses his spot on the top line, that's gonna cost him the money he's banking on in 2 years.
Can anyone tell me what we save towards the cap if we get rid of Powe, Asham and Pyatt??? In my opinion, those 3 are expendable and not needed. I'd rather have Haley on the 4th line instead of Asham. Boyle can take Pyatt's spot on a wing. Kristo, Lindberg, Fast or Miller can replace Powe. When they are full strength, the lineup should looking something like this:
Stepan - C
Brassard - C
Richards - C
Moore - C
Callahan - W
Hagelin - W
Nash - W
Zucc - W
Pouliot - W
Kreider - W
Dorsett - W
Boyle/Lindberg/Fast/Kristo/Miller/Haley - W and/or extra forward
I'd even throw Yogan's name into hat after the game he played the other night.
I don't know everyone's salaries but let's be clear, Dubi averaged 40 points/season when he got his bridge, Kadri had 1 season of 44 points, other guys making about $3M per...Grabner, Okposo, Grabovski, Setoguchi, Kostitsyn, Clutterbuck. Not sure about everyone else, but I take Stepan over any one of those guys in a hummingbird's heartbeat. Stepan has averaged 20+ goals and 50+ points over 2 1/2 seasons. He has most certainly earned a $3.5M contract, but as IcyCup mentioned he has no effin' leverage. I don't think $2.9M is a slap in the face, but $3M+ is symbolic of how his value is viewed. Git er done already!!
$2.9 per is far from an insult IMHO. He is not worth more at this point ( see kadri's deal). I don't think his agent is doing him any favors here. $1.2 million apart over two years? That's a ways apart given the overall numbers. But here's the facts
1. $2.9 mil per year for 2 years is about market value.
2. Stephan has no fucking leverage.
3. Sather wouldn't budge in a negotiation with his grandchildren. He's tough.
4. Stephan is missing not only new teammates and new coaches and a new system, he's missing a team building road trip.
5. Plans are being made without Stephan.
6. There a good, even GREAT kids on the team that are after his job.
7. Those players are getting in game shape while Stephan isn't.
8. Possible lasting resentment COULD be building between the player and the organization that COULD last beyond a resolution.
9. Other players on the team took discounted bridge contracts with the team.
10. He has no motherfucking leverage.
Kevin, if 2.9 miilion a year is an insult, then I would like to be insulted to that tune, right now. Come on, it is not the money that is irritating here - it is the hubris of a 23-yr old to expect to be treated as the best thing since cool beer. No, thank you - the world, and the Rangers, will not suffer if Stepan doesn't play another game ever.
@TheNYRBlog if I was him I'd be pissed they signed zuccarello before him...he is way more valuable to team...
@TheNYRBlog Its doable w/Steps at 3.5 &Cally & Hags on the roster. Asham & Johnson go to the "A" & the NYR have 200k capspace.
@TheNYRBlog I don't think so. He's about on the same level as Kadri imo, and he got 3 over 2 yrs
@TheNYRBlog Stepan better shape up.this team is stacked w/ centers n young hungry players battling for spots.Sather is a shrewd business man
The Rangers are also carying some extra forwards and defenseman on the summer rosterand that summer roster allows teams an additional 10% (6.43 mil) until final cuts are made and rosters are trimmed to 23 players. Some of the depth positions can be filled by kids in the event of an injury. At least at forward. They should keep Falk as a 7th defenseman but if Sather has to move depth guys now to get Stepan signed then so be it. He should use what he needs of that 10% now and wait until right before the season starts to put Callahan and Hagelin on LTIR. That gives Sather the most relief from LTIR.
@TheNYRBlog why can't they offer him a 3 yr deal. 3 mil this year 4 mil for the following 2 years. Next year the cap is higher.
@TheNYRBlog we learned the over paying lesson with Dubi.
@TheNYRBlog how is that insulting? Take him away from Rick Nash and see if he puts up those numbers again.
@BeukeBoomer23 Yup, I got the same impression
@BeukeBoomer23 Exactly what I thought. Both sides are posturing right now, with Sather using AV's press conferences to apply extra pressure.
@IcyCup A captain or an assistant captain makes sure a deal is done before this kind of crap happens. I guarantee we wont see this crap with Cally next year over that amount of money, and we didnt see it when he got his earlier deals. I am still a huge Stepan fan, but I thought he could have been a leader for this team and maybe won over AV and gotten an A because he shows it every night on the ice. But this really hurts him in his standing with the new coach, until he shows up
@IcyCup Is Stephan Stepan's French-Canadian cousin?
@IcyCup Does he not have leverage?
@genetics73 you're right it's not an insult to you or me, but it is in the world of sports.
@jimmyprods @TheNYRBlog Zucc had arbitration rights and used them.
@BroskieNation hell yea he's gonna be out of a job real soon
That would be a 3.6 mil cap hit. That's what they should've done but it seems too much for Sather to sign his top Centerman. I wish Sather would think like you. The problem is this year not the next 2.
He was with all different line mates last season. He played with Callahan and Cally was better. He played with Gabby and Gabby was better. Anyone Stepan played with on his wing got better for that game but if you have 2 guys that click like he and Nash did, you keep them together. Not seperate them to see if one can play without the other. He's not asking for 5-6 mil a season here. Giroux got 3.75 mil over 3 years after putting up lesser stats in 3 years prior.
@mattsteeleNJ For some reason just seeing it under $3M made me think Sather was going too far low balling him.
@BlueSeatBlogs Numbers make my head hurt. lol
@fred_scabz Richards,Brassard,D.moore,and Boyle..Thats 4 centers u got right there.not counting any of the young kids.Stepan has no leverage
@TheNYRBlog Well, the overall theme is that as long as one of Cally/Hags go on LTIR, they are fine.
Right now there's some extra forwards that may not be on the team by then. A D man as well should be sent to Hartford. Johnson can be demoted without cap charge. He's near NHL minimum.
@TheNYRBlog No problem, that's what I'm here for.
@BlueSeatBlogs Thanks for helping me avoid a brain cramp.