The New York Rangers (1-1-0) defeated the Philadelphia Flyers (1-2-1) by the score of 3-2 in their second preseason game, tonight. For a box score go to Yahoo! Sports.
...now that's the offense I was hoping to see under AV. Lots of puck possession, defenseman joining the play and a good forecheck.
...so much for Arniel ruining Brassard.
...really excited about what I saw from Lindberg and Fast, who were not overwhelmed at all by their first NHL action. Great chemistry between the two. I think both have a leg up over guys like Kristo and Hrivik to fill in for Cally and Hags.
...McIlrath = Jessiman.
...amazing what a little competition will do as Biron was very solid tonight. He's got to be the frontrunner to retain the backup position. Although Talbot had his second straight impressive performance in relief.
...hoping beyond hope that Pouliot finally figures it out with the Rangers the way Brassard has. Remember when player's careers used to fall apart when they came to the Rangers? Now the opposite seems to be happening. You know, minus Richards.
...while I liked Dorsett's response to Hartnell almost taking Moore's head off (should have stabbed him with his skate), I'm still not convinced he's enough of an imposing figure to deter teams from taking liberties with the Rangers skill players. Not sure if Haley is that guy either, but he brought a much needed physical edge.
...not sure about you guys, but I'm not a fan of the hybrid icing. I know it's for the safety of the players, but hockey is a dangerous game. Just let them play.
...not looking forward to seeing Lecavalier in orange and black four times this season.
...with Miller out nursing a hamstring, Yogan is taking advantage of the opportunity. Still a long shot, but nice to see.
...nice goal Powe. Your reward will likely be a one way ticket to the Hartford Wolfpack to open up cap space for Stepan.
...not all good as the Rangers still remain goalless on the power play in the preseason.
...Girardi with just ONE blocked shot tonight. Man his body must be loving the coaching change.
...8-for-12 on faceoffs for Moore tonight, who won a big one late. He's going to have a huge role taking defensive faceoffs this season.
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6'5 220lbs is a lot to handle for a 21 year old. He just got done growing upwards. Let him throw on 10lbs of muscle and get use to that frame and a little time before we judge him. He is a monster in the making. How many teams did Charra go though because of his slow and awkward skating before a team realized they struck gold....
We can talk about how McIlrath missed a very long time and all of that. I'm more focused on the fact that, sure he played in the AHL, but he still didn't have competition along the lines of Simmonds, Talbot, Lecavalier, Hartnell, Voracek, and Couterier. All of those guys are pretty solid NHL players. McIlrath may have faced solid AHL talent, but that's nowhere near the same as accomplished NHL players. He played 45 games last year but half of those games were him just trying to get back into playing shape.
Yes, he has to adjust to the speed of NHL players, but that's something that'll come in time. There's an added pressure to being a first round pick but the kid is still just 21 years old. Instead of throwing him under the bus and deciding the kids worthless, how about we let him develop, play a full season in the AHL and and just get better. He wasn't good last night I won't say that he was, but shit what's the rush? Girardi, Staal, McD, Stralman, Moore, Del Zotto, Falk, Syvret...what rush is there for him to be amazing right away?
Brassard & Pouliot are the second coming of Gretzky Kurri; The drafting of McIlrath was worse than the Ryan Leaf pick; Anton Stralman has jumped McDonagh and Girardi on the depth chart. In the immortal words of Allen Iverson...Practice, we talkin' bout' practice??
I was truly impressed by Dominic Moore. This guy looks like he hasn't missed a step after being out for a year. Remember Steve Larmer?
Mentioning Jessiman is giving me nightmares, and I'm not even asleep! Just to make it harder on myself I pulled up the 2003 Entry Draft List to see all the players picked between the Rangers first (Jessiman) and second (Ivan Baranka) Picks. It's nauseating. Parise, Bergeron, Weber, Erikkson, Corey Perry, Mike Richards, Dustin Brown, Brent Seabrook...
Who was in charge of scouting back then?
Give McIlrath a break. It's one game and made the mistakes young players make. He unfortunately isn't ready for the NHL yet. But as he plays more and learns more he won't be making these mistakes quite so much. Sure he'll go down to the AHL to start the year but hopefully he'll make progress. He's a big kid who doesn't embarrass himself speed wise and can intimidate physically. He'll figure it out.
Hey, did everyone know that McIlrath was out for nearly a year? If you didn't you did during the game because Joe Micheletti is in mid-season form and said it a dozen times. The kid made some mistakes last night.....so did Girardi!
On the flip side i do agree with Joe that Andrew Yogan had a pretty good game.
I personally thought, and really believe, it was very clear that Zuccarello was the best player on the ice. Man was he tenacious.
I didn't believe that the Flyers had played four games already; had to look it up. What kind of stupid scheduling is that?
it's not worth it to trade McIllrath as we will most likely get nothing for him. but he is proving to be a bit of a disappointment. I was shocked when they drafted him so high but I thought they knew something I didn't. I'm still hoping he pans out because I love the idea of him, but he has to starting thjnking a few steps ahead of the play. he's a very short sighted player. I hope he didn't throw away a 10th overall pick...I wonder if we could package him for cam fowler...? just kidding.
Im really not sure how hybrid icing is supposed to protect the players.
Have I got this right? If the dman has a clear lead at the faceoff dot then it gets whistled, but if its a close race then they wait for it to be touched?
I might be wrong, but I seem to remember that most injuries happened when it was a close race, not when one player was way ahead of the other.
Cantor looked pretty good tonight. Would like to see more of him. Guy was hitting everybody. Mcllrath had a terrible night. Letting Talbot camp out behind him and getting beat on that 1st goal, and really wasn't a physical presence at all. Against Philly of all teams. He could've made his mark with Rangers fans if he started smashing flyers.
Brass did play very well last night, the whole team looked good to me. I was just glad to see them moving the puck on the PP and shooting it.
All the young guys that were in the lineup created speed and energy. Notice how the PP looked different from the night before with the young guys moving their feet and skating with energy. That's why the offense lacks. Brass is going to be a beast this year.
Not sure McIlrath is Jessiman 2.0 yet (plus Jessiman's draft class had WAY more depth), but now watching McIlrath the last couple of years, it's clear to me that he should not have been a 1st round draft pick (let alone 10th overall) and is unfortunately imho a long shot at making the NHL. Sure, he lost a year cause of his knee, but his knee has healed up and he just simply does not have the skill set/speed to play in the NHL. Can his skating/speed still improve? Of course. But it's SO far from where it needs to be to play in the NHL. And the mental miscues? Maybe he would be able to make those plays in juniors or maybe even the AHL, but he's been exposed by the speed of the NHLers (and let's be frank, these are pre-season opposition rosters) He seems like a good, hard working kid, so it's really disappointing to see that he's so far away.
Brass was great. I liked Gabby a lot, but Brass and Moore are making it easy to forget Gabby for now.
PP, though it didn't score, has looked better than last years PP already. That might not be saying much though.
Hybrid icing sucks.
Who knew Anton F'ing Stralman was possibly the fastest/smoothest skater we have on D? (maybe John Moore is better) Seems like he may be a big benefactor of not having Tort's reigns on him. He was great jumping into the offense.
The only negative watching that game was Mcilrath, he still needs more time in the AHL. The Swedes are all making a case to be kept up with the Rangers. AV is going to have to make some tough decisions but that is not always a bad thing, it means we finally have some depth within the organization.
Hating in McIlrath a bit. Yeah he wasn't the greatest dman but I think he played well for someone who lost a lot of time from injury last year.
Best player on the ice tonight was Brassard... shows exactly why Richards is expendable and with the cap hell we are in for next season why this is likely his last season in blue and white (maybe bring in one or both of the sedins if the cap raises and they hate blocking shots with torts?). Really that whole line looked solid Pouliot-Brassard-Zucc, hopefully they will stay together.
Otherwise for forwards I think Lindberg was a given and has been playing well for a week or so now, but very impressed with Fast tonight... both have a big leg up on Kristo and Hrivik (who was invisible last night).
As for D and goaltending, thought Stralman and Allen stood out tonight, and both goalies played well but dont just go giving it to Biron he only faced 6 shots and while he made some nice saves Talbot has been great, and made a game saver on Voracek that was very impressive.
The 2 of them had chemistry but do they have same chemistry not playing on same line? It would be foolish to split them up.
really hope you don't mean that about McIlrath looooool. anyone realize Stralman played more minutes than McDonagh AND Girardi?
Kristo has an assist vs NJD and played great (2 assists) in scrimmage blue vs white. Don't count him out yet... Dylon Mcillrath - 2 Philly goals were his fault plus few other great opportunities & played soft. Bust or rusty after injuries? Time will tell..he definitely was not afraid to shoot the puck!
I'd give McIlrath another season. I'd discount the last season since he played hurt. He was bad tonight but wouldn't give up on him due to last season. if there's no improvement during this season then I will say he's a bust and he should be dumped.
Stralman looked awesome. He was the best defenseman on the ice, which is saying something when Girardi and McDonagh are playing. Brassard makes Sather look like a genius. McIlrath looks like he could sink the Titanic.
@JoshKaye A freakin' Men!!!
tonyrim I saw the MSG special that they did after the 2003 Draft was over and I saw Don Maloney really pushing to draft him because he was big, and grew up in Conn. as a Ranger fan and was a Freshman at Yale I think and looked "PROMISING" as a big power forward. Maloney was really touting his size and his love of the Rangers since he grew up a fan. I blame it all on Maloney. It's no wonder he then became GM of the Islanders and now the Coyotes. He has learned under Sather and just made a bad pick on Jessiman.
@FireSather How about McIlrath = Brendl?
@RangerGuy99 I think Jesper Fast looked very good of the young players not on the Rangers yet. Brassard looked very good too -- nothing unusual for him though. And I liked what Dominic Moore showed too as he missed all of last season but skated very good and made some good plays. Looks like he'll possibly be a 2nd or 3rd line Center depending upon what happens with Stepan by opening night vs. Phoenix on Oct. 3rd.
@RangerGuy99 Let me preference this by saying I'm not giving up on the kid. But he's been back from the injury for nine months and played 45 games for the Whale last season.
The errors he made last night were not physical, but mental. Which is concerning. It was his first game against NHL competition, however, so I guess he should be given a pass. Very interested in how he responds in the next preseason game if he's not cut today.
@BrandonFranz They actually played a split squad.
@mvmone That maybe true, but he looked brutal last night. He needs at least another year in Hartford before we even think about him being a mainstay on the Rangers blueline.
@craig_atherton And the one time it was a close race, the linesman blew the call and they had to faceoff at center ice.
@FREE LINDBERG I disagree on Hrivik being invisible yesterday. He did a lot of good things, backchecked, laid some hits, went to the net. But Kristo is kind of a puck hog and I don't think they were going to get anything going with Boyle centering them honestly....
@PenaltySh0t Definitely exaggerating on McIlrath.
@Wallace1 I definitely erred by leaving Stralman out of the recap. He was great tonight.
@KevinDeLury @craig_atherton Good point, Im not sure giving officials another way to blow a call and influence games. It seems a bit backward that refs arent allowed to interpret whether a player intended to shoot the puck over the boards (which leads to a PP), but linesmen are expected to interpret icing calls made at high speed.