The New York Rangers have announced the team's third round of cuts from the pre-season roster.
The Rangers were originally going to keep the roster intact until Friday but changed plans in an effort to get the roster closer to finalized and let the players develop chemistry. If I am counting correctly, then 31 players remain to fight for 21-23 roster spots. Accounting for Lundqvist and Biron, who are locked in as the two goaltenders, there are 29 skaters fighting for 19-21 spots.
Kristo is perhaps the most surprising cut with the Rangers needing wingers capable of providing offense in light of Callahan and Hagelin's injuries. However, he certainly proved to be raw and could use some time in the AHL. Hagelin and McDonagh similarly needed some time coming out of college. Kantor and Yogan were never realistically fighting for roster spots at this time and did well to make it this far. They'll be getting legitimate looks next year, if not midseason this year.
Defensively, it's no surprise to see McIlrath get sent down as he struggled against the Flyers and the top-six is set in stone. Another year, with perhaps a call up opportunity, won't hurt him. It's a bit surprising to see Aaron Johnson sent down this quickly, though he wasn't very impressive in his pre-season appearances. He certainly showed more than Stu Bickel, who somehow survived the cuts. Conor Allen sticking this long is equally surprising but for all the right reasons. I think he's been the 7th best defensemen on the roster, though I find it incredibly unlikely the Rangers keep him as a healthy scratch when he'd be better off getting key minutes in Hartford.
Impressive showing from Cam Talbot this pre-season but he was never going to unseat Martin Biron as the backup goaltender. Biron's contract expires after the season. Thus, a strong campaign in Hartford this season would make the Rangers think hard about giving Talbot his opportunity next season.
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So I'm thinking Falk is or 7th dman and Bickel will be the 8th dman to start the season. Allen did out play Bickel but the cap is the real reason why it's going to play out this way. Even tho Allen is young and inexperienced he still out played Stu but his cap hit would be over 1 million$ and Stu's is only like 675,000. So that's how it's going to go fellas. Allen needs time in Hartford anyways so that he can play every night big minutes every night. Just develop more. We haven't seen the last of Conner Allen yet.
Once Cally & Hags are back, and hopefully Stepan signs, are all these players locks for roster spots?
Nash - Richards - ???
Callahan - Stepan - Hagelin
Zucc - Brassard - Pouliot
Boyle - Moore - Dorsett/Asham
I don't see how we can afford Asham if we need the $$ to pay for Stepan
I think Asham sticks. He looks awesome, I don't know why some people are down on him. He's always been a good shooter and looks like hes in good shape. He isn't going to be knocking heads like a youngster, but we need that strength, experience and toughness on the 4th line. He can come in and out of the lineup, he's a pro.
Also, it looks like he's added some skill to his game. I saw him cut some dudes up so far this preseason.
Asham sticks and Powe gets waived.
One thing pre-season showed is the McIlrath bubble has burst. We were willing to wait for a crease cleaning monster, but I doubt that will ever happen. The most amazing thing is he's not that big especially when u look at some of the giants on other teams. Nice kid who I think will go on to become one of the biggest busts in Ranger history. i think Tommy Hughes will end up being a far better player. His Juniors coach, Dale Hunter, raved about Hughes' toughness and smarts and that may have contributed to the Rangers signing him. Not flashy, but quietly efficient. Needs polish and offense.
Wasn't impressed by Kristo. Thought he was thoroughly outplayed by Lindberg, fast and miller. And hrivik looked marginally better. Otherwise pretty straightforward
@TheNYRBlog I wonder if Bickel stuck because AV knows he can keep him as a 7th D/press box guy. He can fight. Not many other guys can.
I was expecting to see more cuts. Will be interesting to see who gets ice time in the final pre-season games. Really want to see the starters get some time together and let AV get a feel for what this team will really be like prior to the first game.
a little disappointed that kristo got cut i was hoping for some good things out of him, but thats not to say he wont develop nicely for the future. Im hoping lindberg starts poppin the net alittle in these next few games
it's not a matter of outplaying in this case, it's what the team needs and what the kids need. Bickel brings a different, er, "skill set" than Allen, and, like you said, Allen will benefit from time in Hartford.
And also Stu is a good 5th wheel kind of guy since you can insert him up front or on D if someone gets hurt or if you want a bit of extra toughness in the lineup. Not a bad idea to keep him as a utility man.
Plus I always love watching Stu Bickel drop the gloves to rearrange some guys face. Maybe he'll actually play a little defense too. Who knows? We're about to find out soon LGR! END THE PRESEASON! IT'S ALMOST OPENING NIGHT LGR! LGR! LGR! LGR! LGR! LGR! LGR! LGR! LGR! LGR!
I notice Pyatt isn't in your lineup. There's some money.
Close to a lock on most of the guys you listed, IMO.
Kreider -- Stepan -- Nash
Hagelin -- Brassard -- Callahan
Pouliot -- Richards -- Zuccarello
Boyle -- Moore -- Dorsett/Asham
McDonagh -- Girardi
Staal -- Del Zotto
Moore -- Stralman
7, 8 = Falk, Bickel
That's 21 skaters + Lundquist and Biron.
Before Hagelin comes back, Miller plays a few games.
Given this roster, there is $4,630,833 of cap space. More than enough to sign Stepan.
@_Jack I could've sworn SOMEBODY on the roster had a ring that wasn't Richards.......but no one :o.
@_Jack Asham made it to the SCF, did not win
@brian2686 Like Asham on the 4th line or as the 13th forward.
@shishya100 OK - "The Undertaker" is 6'5" and 21 I believe (or 22) - give this kid some time - he's not ready yet but calling him a bust at this stage of his career?? Really?
@shishya100 I fail to see how it showed us that. Zdeno Chara was not an NHL regular until he was 24. Big, physical defensemen take a long time to develop. McIilrath has plenty of time.
@FREE LINDBERG "thoroughly outplayed" is a bit of a stretch...though Lindberg's ability to backcheck like a mother effer was most impressive.
@cwgatti @TheNYRBlog I'd pretty much rather have Bickel out there sticking up for Staal and McDonagh when they get cheapshoted (Iknow that's not a word) instead of Del Zaster shooting the puck wide 20 times per night.
@cwgatti Could be.
@jslnyr1102 Not you. He played pretty mediocre last season as well.
@greggray24 Baffled that Bickel made the cut. Have to assume Powe and/or Asham will be waived shortly as well.
@PacNYR44 He had a rough game last night. -3 and lost his guy in front of the net on the final goal.
with Stepan signed at $3.5 mil, we would have $1,130, 833 of cap space remaining ... just a little wiggle room
@_Jack @FREE LINDBERG yea thoroughly was the wrong word. Visibly is more appropriate. I think each of the kids I mentioned showed at least one major playing trait or a personality while on the ice. But, from all the preseason games and TC scrimmages the main trait I got from him is that he is kind of a puck hog. The talent is there just thinks he needs a feel for the game a little bit more, which should be aided in the AHL for a half season or so depending on a call up
@TheNYRBlog @cwgatti A press box specialist? Ok with me as long as they send him down the moment a D gets hurt :)
@greggray24 I'm really worried about Biron making 20 starts.
@KevinDeLury @greggray24 As well as Asham has played I think we need to go with the kids if possible. Powe has to go as we are good on penalty killing without him. Was interesting to see Linburgh getting PK time in the last few games. Would not be surprised if we have a kids 3ed line - think that would be fun to watch :)
woops! i lied, that doesn't include Stu Bickel...
so we'd have $380,833 remaining with Stepan signed at $3.5 million, and all these other guys on the roster
@FREE LINDBERG @Herman_NYRBlog @shishya100 You're comparing 36 year old Chara to 21 year old McIlrath. When Chara was McIlrath's age he was trying to prove he belonged at the NHL level, much like Dylan is now. Will he reach Chara' level? Probably not. Chara is going to be remembered as one of the best of this generation. You're selling him short on his potential, though.
@_Jack @FREE LINDBERG best thing about Miller is his confidence (sometimes too much so). But he is never nervous... he takes time reads the ice and makes a play. It kind of backfired on him towards the end of the regular season last year before he got hurt. But add in his solid two way game, and he is an asset for sure. With another game like last night I dont think there is any question of whether he will be on the team or not