New Puck Daddy: Corey Crawford’s day with the Cup begins with six year, $36 million extension http://t.co/xTJ6rZEh3d— Greg Wyshynski (@wyshynski) September 2, 2013
...welp, for those of us hoping for a hometown discount for Lundqvist can forget it now. If Crawford is worth $6 million per, I don't even want to think about how expensive Lundqvist will be. Can you say max contract?
...i know Crawford just won a Cup, which obviously was a factor in his contract, but he's not half the goaltender Lundqvist is. Sadly, this contract along with the $7 million per deal Rask just signed proves the pay scale for goaltenders has just gone through the roof to Sather's displeasure. I can assure you that once Sather tries to play hard ball, and he will play hard ball, Lundqvist's agent is going to throw Crawford's contract right in the Rangers GM's face.
...you have to assume the 31-year old Lundqvist is guaranteed at least $8 million per now. Which is an amount I'm more than comfortable with as long as the contract length is for no longer than six years. Guys like Hasek and Thomas have proved that goaltenders can have long shelf lives, but I think the Rangers would regret the last two or three years if Hank's given an eight-year max contract. And I wouldn't even consider $10 million per as that's a lot of money to invest for a team lacking in the offensive department.
Speaking of Lundqvist, he somehow didn't make SI's recent list of most irreplaceable players in the NHL.
...HUH?!?!?!?! I'm sorry, there's not a single player in the NHL more integral to their team's success than Lundqvist. I don't think it's a stretch to say that without Lundqvist the Rangers don't qualify for the playoffs once after the 2004-05 lockout. Actually that would have put them at 13 years and counting under Sather.
Finally, Lundqvist officially staked his claim as the most interesting man in the world after tweeting out this pic of him cruising around Manhattan yesterday...
...what I'd give to be this man for just one day.
Sather will be dead before that 8 year contract is up. He's gonna give him what he wants. Only 3-4 of the years will matter to him
they will use his as leverage...I love Hank, and he is much better of a goalie, but when you WIN a CUP to me that's more deserved. Now will Henrik win one yes, was the hawks team in front of Crawford better? Yes, but he has won a cup...that's the difference maker...Until anyone wins one I don't think they deserve contracts like that unless you win...Crawford may ot be nearly as good, but he won...That's the difference..
No one is irreplaceable; and sometimes the best salesman in a company is let go. I like Lundqvist, and I hope he stays with NYR for years and years, but even the best player must show some consideration for the team. I said that about Stepan, and I am saying it about Lundqvist - show some humility; it will not kill you. Otherwise, goodbye and don't let the door hit you on your way out.
The worst part about all the recent goaltender deals is that not only are they getting big money, they're getting big money for a bunch of RFA deals. None of these recent contracts are straight UFA deals, which is what Hank's will be.
As far as giving him 8 years, I think that's they way to go. I'm not worried about how he'll look on the end of the deal, because I don't think he's the type of guy who's gonna hang around just to cash a check. Hank is too much of a competitor. If he can't play at a high level, I think he walks away. If he still wants to play, perhaps he retires to Frolunda and plays a bit more.
The other plus to handing him the 8 years is we can use the extra years to control his cap. Give the guy 2 seasons at $10 upfront, let him be the first NHL player to hit $10 mil per, because he deserves it more then anyone else in the league. Under the new CBA, contracts can still drop by half their value, so put two years at $5 per on the end. If he's still playing at this point (and that's a pretty good if) he's chasing Cups and history, not paying his bills. $5 mil per shouldn't be a problem, and keeps his cap hit for those 4 seasons at a VERY reasonable $7.5 per. Fill in the middle 4 years with some progression going from $9 per to $6 per and we've got a deal that works for everyone.
I still think the biggest obstacle for getting him back is showing him we can get him a Cup. We need to show him we can give him some support if we want him to stick around.
Not saying I am by this at all, but if it were between hank getting 9.5 or giving Henrik sedin and Daniel sedin 5 million a piece, which would you rather have? Assuming you pick up a Jonas hiller or some one. Hope it doesn't come to this, but I wouldn't give hank more than 9 it handicaps the team
Crawford's deal is below Hank's current deal, so I doubt it will have any effect. Crawford cashed in on a stellar season and leading his team to a Cup. Rask did the same, only there was no Cup, just a finals appearance, and he would have won the Conn Smythe if his team took home the Cup. Hank is no doubt one of the top goalies in the game, but the fact remains that he has NOT led his teams anywhere near a Cup (losing in 6 games in the ECF is not close IMO). Does he deserve to be paid more than he is now? Sure. Does he deserve to be paid $10M per year for what he's accomplished? HELL NO! If he's insistent on 8 years, then fine, give him 8 years, $60M. If he wants the max, then deal him. A max contract would cripple this team and make them an annual playoff bubble team for the next 10 years, probably more. I love Hank, but I love the Rangers more!
can't do this in Shittsburg Hank. take the discount and maintain your incredible personal life and hobbies. if I didn't love this guy is hate him haha this picture is only missing Kate Upton in a bikini.
@BuckarooClub Yeah, but if he walks, under new CBA, Rangers still incur the cap hit.
@FREE LINDBERG The Sedin's and AV have stumbled out of the playoffs early so many times, why would you EVER want to put them back together?
I like a team with the twins and Hiller better than a team with a 35-40 year old Hank killing our cap. when are player going to stop being so short sighted!? I bet a part of Brad Richards wishes he was making 5 mil a year and had less pressure on him.
@gravey94 It's not Hank's fault that the NYR have not won a cup.
@gravey94 The reason I feel the Crawford & Rask contracts effect Lundqvist is because it bumps him up. Yes, I know Lundqvist hasn't taken the Rangers to the promiseland but the fact remains his value is way more important to his team than the other guys are.
Having said that, I agree 100% with everything else you stated.
@KevinDeLury @BuckarooClub I didn't think was the case, and that recapture was more of a penalty for deals that were signed on the old CBA. Under the new CBA you're limited to how much you can "cheat" the hit, since it can't fall by more then half the highest year, and can't drop too much in any given season.
If you check cap geek, the only contracts that pop up on the recapture calculator are old deals. Rask's deal should apply, because it goes as high as $7.5 and as low as $6.5, but it's not there.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIGFattyPants Brodeur sure didn't look to bad between those ages.
I'd offer 6yrs @48 mil - hopefully he can get a cup by then & walk if he wants to after that - I mean really, don't we think we have enough talent in the pipeline to win by 2020?
Not completely, but there have been big games where he didn't step up. Conversely, it was Quick's "fault" that the Kings win the Cup and it was Rask's "fault" that the Bruins went to the finals.