Larry Brooks at the New York Post reports that the Rangers defensive pairs are taking shape as Alain Vigneault is likely to go with these units...
Ryan McDonagh-Dan Girardi
Marc Staal-Michael Del Zotto
John Moore-Anton Stralman
Here's Vigneault on his thought process with the defense...
“I like to have a shutdown pair and I like to have a pair that can play with our top line for offensive zone faceoffs. I like the way Michael steps into the attack, and playing with Marc Staal, who is such a good two-way player.”
...obviously McD-Girardi would be the shutdown pair with Staal-Del Zotto playing with the first unit in the offensive zone. I'm a fan of this philosophy. I love Girardi and McD, but no way they should be paired with the first unit for a faceoff in the offensive end.
...now for this to work, Vigneault just has to figure out how to get Del Zotto to hit the net with his shot. In all seriousness, AV is absolutely going to put Del Zotto in a position to succeed offensively whenever he can and it's going to be up to the young defenseman to take advantage.
Vigneault also touched on the recovery of Ryan Callahan and Carl Hagelin from offseason shoulder surgery saying, while neither will likely be ready for the opener on Oct. 3rd, the duo are doing everything in practice but participating in contact drills...
"I think Ryan is a little ahead of Carl as far as shooting the puck. It seems to me Ryan is putting his full weight in and Carl is a little bit more on the safe side, not as committed to the shots."
Brooks adds that chances are Hagelin will be placed on Long Term Injury, thus rendering him ineligible to play for at least the first 10 games.
...everyone recovers differently so I'm not concerned about Hagelin being behind Callahan.
...and to be honest, I'm probably more worried that Callahan might be pushing himself too hard in an effort to get himself ready for the opener. Take it easy Cally, I'd rather you miss the first couple of weeks of the season than coming back too early and miss an extended period of time.
...putting Hagelin on LTIR could hopefully open up enough money to get Stepan signed before the season.
Brooks says the Rangers have offered 6.4 for 2 years.... but Stepan's agent wont go below 7. Every day Stepan looks more and more like an asshole... just saying
@TheNYRBlog Cally chews nails, and uses his dick as a welder. You seem shocked! Or, surprised?
id rather not trade stepan but after this is all said and done and he is finally signed he better come ready to play bc he has everyone expecting alot from him now
I know this topic is on defensive combinations but I saw some video on Hanzal, a Phoenix center, and he’s a monster, over 200 hits average for each season and I saw some of his devastating hits.He’s only 26. Might be a trade there.
I think Boyle and Stepan are two candidates but would be reluctant to trade either until management is convinced Lindberg is ready, even if he gets time in Hartford, and if they think Richie will have a turnaround season. Hanzal did get 16 goals for one season. Trading both Stepan and Boyle would do it. Hanzal has a 3.1M cap space and is not a free agent until 4 years from now. With the 2.1M in present cap space, and Boyle’s 1.7M. That frees up enough cap space to carry Hanzal, plus I would rather see Healy instead of Boyle on the 4th line with Moore and Dorsett. Think Phoenix will take that deal? Plus let them worry about signing Stepan, we trade his rights. So, if this is done, you got Richards, Brassard, Hanzal and Moore centering the 4th line with Lindberg getting experience with the small ice at Hartford and immediately called up if any of the 4 centers gets hurt or underperforms. Maybe bargain for a draft pick included with Hanzal? Think Hags and Cally would love to have a monster like Hanzal between the two of them? You bet.
@TheNYRBlog LOL! "Hope he's not over doing it" - do you know anything about our captain???
@TheNYRBlog he wouldn't be Cally tho if he didnt
Would also like to see Staal back with Girardi, and McD getting some opportunities with the top line. Hopefully Moore gets some extra PP time to balance out being in the 3rd pair.
The negotiations with Stepan are dragging way too long. Time for Slats to draw a line in the sand with his agent. I wouldn't be afraid to explore trade options for him.
A huge test for AV. No Cally, Step, Hags with first nine games on the road. Defense has to be sharp along with Hank. We don't want to go 3-6 or worse. Have to get at least nine points.
@TheNYRBlog in addition, pass it to nobody.
@TheNYRBlog I mean you know that's not true but we can only hope
Agree completely kevin - let's hope the training staff keep Cally reined in! As for delzaster maybe someone could show him where the net is... Just like Boyle should have taken boxing lessons this off season delzaster needed to spend an inordinate amount of time focused on shooting at the net... Shots only count when on net - it's been sheer luck delzaster gets credited with any shots on net, but then again even the blind squirrel gets lucky once in a while. Time for delzaster to step up and be the player most of us think he can be!
@TheNYRBlog Moore is better than Del Zotto and should get those minutes
I thought $3.2 million would get it done. It may yet. This is getting tiresome.
@rangers28 Not shocked just concerned this isn't the right time for that.
@lennynyr I stopped reading when you said "might be a trade there" at end of first paragraph - there's about as much of a chance of us trading McDonagh as there is Phoenix trading Hanzal. They absolutely love him down there and he loves being a Coyote. Don't even waste your time thinking about it.
a resounding "no thanks" on hanzal ... i'm sure phoenix would love the deal because they'd be fleecing us
Lindberg is not ready
@BlkNBlueShirts Actually, I do which is why I'm worried.
@mobilope Good point.
@nyrgoal99 @TheNYRBlog that may well play itself out. I believe AV is being more than smart in allowing DZ the opportunity to show up...and if he doesn't, perhaps he can't...and then appropriate moves can be made. I am impressed with AV!!
@AG_Blue @FREE LINDBERG The more I look at this whole Stepan thing the more it makes me think less of him as a person. As a player, I love his game... and you know what he may be entitled to the long-term big dollar contract for a ton of money. But that is not how it works, there are players above and below him that have taken these bridge deals (even when their team wasn't strapped against the cap like the Rangers are now).
There are two things Stepan has to realize:
1) He is playing in NY and for a contender. He is not in Phoenix or Calgary or even Long Island for this matter. The Rangers are not below the cap minimum and trying to reach the floor... they spend near the limit every year, so they have a chance to win a championship. He played one half-season at a near point per game pace... you want the big bucks do it for a whole year and sign an extension... For god sakes you are 23 and being offered 3.2 million dollars a year to play in the biggest market on the biggest stage in the world. (Not to mention how missing the regular season games would hurt his olympic standing)
2) Sorry to say it but he is not Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Pavel Datsyuk, Steven Stamkos, Johnathon Toews, John Tavares, etc. Just a couple years ago , lets remember Step was not even a first round pick... Now I am not saying he hasnt blossomed into a first line player, but even first line players get bridge contracts at a young age (most recently Nazem Kadri in Toronto). The ones that avoid this are the Sidney Crosby's of the league. Out of the list I have mentioned almost all of these players have carried their team to a cup or two, and the ones that haven't have been Hart trophy candidates. While everyone loves Stepan, he is not on this level and most likely never will be.
I am usually on the players side, especially cause I don't like Sather, but Stepan should be more focused about getting on the ice and trying to earn a contract extension similar to the one Patrice Bergeron got this year, then the extra 200,000 he could get this year. Yes it is a lot of money, but at some point enough is enough...get on the ice and earn more... for god's sake he is 23 years old... he is NOT ENTITLED to anything after one good half season of hockey
@TheNYRBlog @rangers28 What say you on my trade proposal?
@AG_Blue @lennynyrCheck out some videos om Hanzal and judge for yourself..
and you can watch all or almost all of his goals here: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hlp=84716
@TheNYRBlog I'd feel same way if I hadn't accepted who Cally is at this point - he's gonna rush back no matter what so it is what it is :-/
@Melissa (blknblueshirts) @lennynyr Melissa, Sather only has 2.1M cap space. Just giving them Stepan doesn't do anything for the cap space and Hanzal's cap is 3.1M so giving them Boyle adds 1.7M which allows them to pay Hanzal under the cap. I picked Boyle since AV is going to try him at wing on the 4th line and both Healy and Mishinter would be better there. I think Maloney would listen. They would just negotiate who is coming to NY with Hanzal. It's all about the cap space Melissa.
@lennynyr Yeah if we offer both of those guys we would be getting fleeced but why would we offer both of them? That would be stupidity on our part and if there's one thing Sather knows how to do, it's trades.
As for why not try....unless Sather wants to know how Maloney felt when he used to call us a few years ago, there's no reason to. Those convos will be the same as when Don used to call us for Dubi or Cally - Don: "Hey Glen, so we were looking at Dubi or Cally..." Sather: "click". Just switch the callers and players.
It depends on what we mean by "ready." i'm a believer, totally psyched about Lindberg, but most people can't just show up ready to play in the NHL. I like Lindberg starting the year with us and then putting some time in with Hartford. He's a great asset, but he's not ready to take Stepan's spot.
yeah, too bad, Hahahaha