We are into Day 11 of training camp and there appears to be no end in sight for the stalemate between Derek Stepan and the New York Rangers.
Larry Brooks of the NY Post chimes in with more of his unique insight into the situation. He provides a slight update on where New York is willing to compromise to get a deal done.
"And so here we are, closer to the Oct. 3 start of the season in Phoenix than the Sept. 11 start of training camp without an end in sight to the impasse between Stepan and the Rangers, who have offered their presumptive first-line center just under $6M for two seasons and are believed willing to go to approximately $6.4M in order to get the deal done."
If it's true the Rangers are willing to move slightly higher and Stepan is still holding firm at $7 million over two years, then who really is to blame?
Brooks also points out the order in which Glen Sather did business this offseason could be a downfall for the situation both sides are in now:
"True, true, it’s every bit as much about cap space as it is about money — or so Stepan and his representatives have been told — but the Rangers created the issue by saving this one for last while addressing other matters, and, as long as we’re dealing in truths, Sather does have slightly more maneuverability than he suggests."
The season opener is October 3 in Phoenix. Stepan and the Rangers have 11 more days to avoid a nightmare scenario.
- Can you say both sides are at fault here? Absolutely. The Rangers made a choice to keep Brad Richards rather than buying him out and it meant less cap space to work with and the consequences of that. However, Stepan doesn't need to hold so steadfast on an arbitrary $3.5 million when by the 2015-16 he can be making close to $6 million a season when he negotiates a long-term deal next offseason (if he so chooses).
- I do agree with Brooks to an extent (this can't be good). Stepan should've been No. 1 priority this offseason and take care of the rest as they come. However, since Ryan McDonagh and Carl Hagelin could've gone to arbitration whereas Stepan didn't ultimately played as the deciding factor to get everyone else signed first. It's the (ugly) business side for sports, folks.
- I can't see this bleeding into the regular season. And if it does as some hockey pundits i.e. Darren Dreger suggest, then what? We're waiting till November for it to resolve? Do you even entertain the thought of trading Stepan?
As I've said all along, a deal will get done. Patience everyone. Oh, and when will people realize the media is used as a negotiation platform between the sides. No reporter knows what the Rangers are willing to go up to from their initial offer unless the Rangers want him to know that and report it. Step will be in blue by next Monday.
If he isn't going to take 3.2M, if I was Sather, I'd drop the offer by 0.1M every week and make it clear to Stepan that it is going to happen. Let him hold out. If it's past Dec 15th, he's ineligible to play. Definitely put him on the market and consider the Hanzal deal.
forget stepan...anthony duclair has 4 goals and 5 points in 2 games! promote him! (I realize this is impossible and he would get eaten alive) this is just my way of bringing this up! dude is going off!!!
If the Rangers are willing to go to 6.4 then this starts leaning towards Step being at fault if he won't bite. Given cap space, you're 23 and solid but not yet outstanding take it if you want to be a Ranger. Get it done already!
The Big Picture, Larry.......The Big Picture says The entire Ranger organization is willingly to fore go Stepan and risk not making the playoffs simply because there will be no consequences to not making the playoffs. They not only have all the leverage but with their defense and with their all-world goal-tending the Rangers could still make the playoffs without Stepan........The Big Picture, Larry........The Big Picture.
He was the teams leading scorer last year. He should have been offered McDonaugh's deal. To chinze on him for a couple hundred thousand bucks is a joke.
@TheNYRBlog Step puts his heart and soul into being a Ranger. Sign him now
What about $5.8 over two years with $500k tied to performance bonuses? No idea if that's in the rules or not.
Yes, I do entertain the thought of trading Stepan. He is not be all end all type of a player, much as I like the man. There comes a point when humility must get the better of a person - I know, I have said that before.
Stepan's agent has to be giving him bad advice here, absolutely doesn't seem like the type to hold out. Anyway, this situation is garbage. Stepan is out of his mind if he thinks he's getting a cent over 3.5 mill AAV. Just freaking meet halfway and get back on the ice. God this is RIDICULOUS.
Bullshit, Keith...He's a decent player, but lets not make him out to be a can't-lose talent like Crosby or Stamkos. Nothing overly phenomenal about him. And the fact that he thinks he's worth so much more, and not being worth it and not having the leverage, makes him expendable. Move Brassard up and give a kid a shot (unless you can get someone good in a trade). Dubinsky 2.0 here
What Stepan and his camp need to realize is the reason why players like Duchene, Skinner and Henrique cashed in early is the markets they play in: Colorado, Carolina and NJ. If those teams don't dish out big money to sign their young talent early, they'll lose them to UFA for nothing. McDonagh's deal doesn't fit into this equation because the market for young, quality D-man is completely different.
Stepan's production warrants he gets paid somewhere around $3.5 million per on a bridge deal. But to push it this long into training camp over a few $100K is a bit ridiculous.
Six million dollars. You've never even seen that much money. Just take it! He'll get much more in the future.
anyone seen this? hahah
Again, I don't know why these so called professionals don't read the blog. We could have resolved this months ago.
I think it's speculation that Sather left the Stepan signing to the end. I've seen nothing to confirm that. For all we know Stepan has had $2.9 million on the table since the beginning of the summer.
Stepan stands to make great money here when this bridge deal is done, especially if he continues to improve his play. He would be better off getting on the ice. I agree that his side is holding things up at this point.
TERRIBLE!!! They need to sign him NOW! give him what he wants...he deserves more. They only need to find $300,000 each season to make it work...Take it out of Sather's salary.
If the report about the Rangers willing to go to $6.4M for two years is true, I've got no choice but to blame Stepan and his agent for this mess.
I understand it's a business and both sides bear some blame, but the bottom line is that step isn't doing himself or the rangers any favors. He was poised to be the standout #1 center and help lead the team to a real run at the cup and make an impact on team USA to boot. Knowing the situation with the cap, slats albeit skewed view on bridge deals, step needs to show some integrity and foresight and get the deal done even if it means a little less in the short term. The upside is huge both for him and his team the affect if he continues could be disastrous! Slats for all his short comings has done an admirable job in building in depth and avoiding the ill advised need for guys like hammer to disappoint. The window is now for the rangers and step is painting himself into a corner as a selfcentered ass to risk everything over so little when the reward and the payout will be huge if he and the team perform as expected. Watching Sauer I get the looking out for number one, but Sauer is thankfully in the minority. While he may never be the next Cindy Crosby he could take a lesson as the blog pointed out and not hamstring the team in an effort to pad his pockets in the short term. In the overall scheme the $$$ is small don't make yourself smaller by letting a few dollars make the team suffer, you play poorly, or potentially be traded to a non contender. I want step back in the fold, but I have to admit if he holds his stance much longer I will definitely join the camp of fans saying trade his greedy ass!!!
As for more positive news... AV is moving Boyle to the wing. That is a great move being how deep we are, and now really opens a position up for Lindberg, as he is the only center left without Stepan there, and miller being hurt.
I think a lot of people forget because they haven't seen hockey in awhile. And this is coming from a guy that loves Step and the game he play because plays with heart every night (like the stare down of Ryan miller last year). But if what Brooks said is true and the Rangers went to 3.2, fuck this guy. He is 23 years old, and had one good half season. Maybe it is because we haven't had a first line center in a decade, but let's remember people this isn't Sidney Crosby... Derek Stepan isn't carrying us to the cup. A lot of people would argue he is a second line center on a cup winning team. Guys like toews, stamkos, Tavares, datsyuk, sedin, malkin, Bergeron, etc. are in a different league then this guy. I get that he is only 23 and he still has time, but having one good half season and holding out when you are getting 6.4 million over two years... I say this is on Stepan now... Either he doesn't want to play hockey in NY or he is an asshole... And I don't think it's the first. As for trading him...I would only entertain the idea if we got someone great back (like Kesler)
@TheWrage Stepan is going to be awful without training camp
@IcyCup That's what I was thinking too. Add some easily attainable bonus clauses (games played, 40 pts, etc). Not sure what the rules are on the Group II RFA though.
@Keith Volpe why does he deserve more? realistically, he's only been our #1 for HALF a season. There's a lot of reasonable doubt that he replicates last season's heroics. So no, 3.3 is more than enough for him. I hate this "woe is him poor him" attitude. It's a damn business, he's gotta suck it up.
@FREE LINDBERG I like Boyles game on the wing, but we still need him to move over and take some draws, especially in the D zone.
I agree with this comment 100%. Stepan had one good HALF of a season. He should be motivated to try and prove himself and do it over a FULL season and then get a big contact. Selfish. And like you said, he isn't anything like any of the players you listed above.
Exactly. He's going to come back and be ten steps behind everyone else and put up numbers like he did 2 years ago. And those numbers aren't anything special. What a nightmare right before our eyes.
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more fans as in you and your kid cousin ?
the number of fans coming around to your trade scenario is hovering around the zero mark