Thanks to the great people over at HF Boards, here are the latest pics of the MSG transformation...
Scoreboard (via @nycscar)...
...it's not the scoreboard at Texas Stadium, but that looks sweet.
Lobby & Concourse:
...eh, I was expecting more. Sort of looks the same, but white.
...just as awful as I expected. Definitely not worth blocking the view of the scoreboard and much of the arena for thousands of fans.
The bridges, and the impetus behind them (money), look horrific, but I will wait until opening night to make a more informed judgement. But in a world-class renovation or new arena there should be NO obstructions whether it's the playing surface, scoreboard, other part of the arena,...this looks like something you might see in the USSR back in the 70s or something. Simply no excuse for the nauseating greed of cramming more seats in.
@TheNYRBlog and in 10yrs..we're out
I don't understand all the belly aching around the skybridges. The first picture in this post (the one that shows the new scoreboard) is taken from the top of the 200 section, with the skybridge overhead. Does that look like obstructed view or blocked sightlines to you? So you cant see clear across the arena, and you can't see the fancy new scoreboard; big whoop - they have big plasma screens on the backside of the skybridge if you wanna watch replays. You pay to see the show on the ice, which won't be obstructed in the slightest.
Horseshit. I'll take the old grimey Garden over this Disney shitshow any day. They would have been better off starting from scratch, what a waste of money. As _Jack, so eloquently stated, it's just "Lipstick on a pig."
All I'm reading about the pics is a bunch of bitching and moaning when NO ONE has been inside yet. STFU and wait til you get inside to see it for yourself. Remember, more seats means more of a chance for you to SEE A GAME.
Skybridges are awful. Classic example of trying to cram seats where there shouldn't be any (a la Green Monster). 1st phase reno was great (creating a bowl feel for MSG). 2nd phase, so-so. 3rd phase, not impressed thus far, but I guess I'll have to see it in person to really make an assessment. And what's up with those horrible candy colored LED lights?
Funniest part of this whole thing is that after all this money, MSG is going to have to move in 10 years. If De Blasio wins (he will), its a guarantee that Penn Station will occupy MSG and MSG will be displaced westward.
what the fuck is the point of those bridges? are there seats on them? jeez can those people behind them even see?
Lipstick on a pig. It's not making MSG modern, it's just playing catch up to new arenas. As a former season ticket holder I'm just bitter. Drop the puck!
@TheNYRBlog oh the new scoreboard that half of us won't get to enjoy?
Would have been better if they just rebuilt an new arena. The Garden has a great atmosphere, but that is because of the best fans in the world. I have always felt that the sight lines could be much improved, but it seems that management thought the sight lines were not quite bad enough, so they had to put the bridges in...
The scoreboard looks beautiful. Too bad I'll never see it when I'm at the Garden. Honestly, I just want an explanation why those bridges are necessary. We were never able to get from one side to the other in the higher levels so why do they need to start now?
@TheNYRBlog are those seats on the sides of the bridge in the first pic? It's hard to make out.
Wouldn't be shocked if they dialed back some of the detail work in the "common" areas after the whole 10-year lease debacle. No sense in upgrading someone else's lobby.
From and Engineering/Design perspective, the bridge hanging from the ceiling to create another angle is pretty cool, but it just seems like a waste to create new sightlines by blocking old ones. Would have worked better in the old layout when the "bowl" was flatter.
@TheNYRBlog That bridge thing is ridiculously stupid.
@TheNYRBlog The scoreboard is the coolest part of the whole 3rd part of the transformation
@TheNYRBlog yeah, I hate it, as expected. Stupid skybridges. Thanks for sharing.
Can't wait to spend $100 a ticket to sit with an obstructed view. Thank you James Dolan. You're wonderful.
LED lights most likely in test/start up mode. Will probably be blue/red for NYR games, blue/Orange for Knicks games
@Scott_from_Jersey Technically yes. However, it would have to go through so much red tape in the end that even if they vote MSG out, it would probably take much longer than 10 years.
A lot of players complained about MSG if you remember. Some said it was the worst arena they played at. Not saying they should have done it, but just for some perspective
@Melissa (blknblueshirts) The answer is "Money". Are you surprised? 4 rows of 15 seats per section, maybe 10 section on each side of the arena is 1,200 more seats, plus Stand Room tickets. Thats could easily $200,000 more revenue per game in tickets alone.
I'm not sure if the reshaping of the bowl decreased the number of seats in any way. I know when they renovated Fenway Park and corrected sight lines it actually decreased the number of seats, which is why they added section and decks anywhere they could.
@TKBlueshirt @TheNYRBlog yeah, there are a few rows on the front side of the bridge.
@Edved17 Going crazy over here waiting.
@edieterich92 No doubt.
@RandiSaysHello NP. Awful.
@BrendyJohnson good point
@Free Lindberg & Kreider Most of the players said it was "too dark." However, one thing we never hear about during post-game interviews is, "How was the ice?" That would always be my FIRST question to a player.
@johnnyb3910 Duh...silly me. Why didn't I think of that? As for number of seats, not sure on that but it wouldn't surprise me if that happened or if they just tried to add seats for more revenue.
@TheNYRBlog I'm with ya brotha!!! All is will be right in the world again:-))))
@TheNYRBlog while the Garden was dated, I've not been a fan of most of the renovations. Esp. not being able to walk around inside.
@BrendyJohnson Nah... I was just pissed... he was already freed... Lindberg still remains caged