No quote could more perfectly express my feelings towards the Rangers effort in Tampa than Coach Murray Chadwick's from the movie Youngblood...
"You better start hitting out there! Let 'em know you're in the same goddamn rink!"...Half of you could skate around with a carton of eggs and not break any out there. You're tougher than that. You know it, I know it."
Full quote here (1:08 mark)...
Sounds like Alain Vigneault wasn't all that happy either (via Bergen Record)...
"Obviously it was sort of Martin St. Louis love-fest out there, nobody touched a soul, especially not him...It was obviously a big no hitter.”
The Ranger had a just 13 hits Monday night, only three of them by the defense.
...interesting conversation on this subject in the game Rangers/Lightning recap comments section. While yes, the Rangers need a true enforcer in the lineup so that Dorsett isn't forced to take on guys twice his size, the real problem is they're just not a hard team to play against right now. No hitting, no forechecking, no grinding. Very rarely this season have they forced the opposition to fight for every inch of the ice. Assuming the Lightning set a record for the least amount of ice bags used after a game Tuesday night they were hit so infrequently.
...yes, I know the Rangers biggest challenge right now is scoring, but playing with "jam" as Torts liked to call it opens up a lot of the offense. A tough forecheck results in turnovers. Out muscling a defenseman in front of the net leads to tip-ins and rebound goals. Having personnel who play with an edge also allows skill players to feel more comfortable on the ice to do their thing.
...what concerns me most is that other than Callahan and Dorsett (and maybe Kreider), there's really no one else in the lineup who plays with a mean streak. Sure the Rangers have some big guys on the team, but unfortunately they don't play big. And that's a problem. When the opposing team is more willing to go into the dirty areas to score goals, you're going to have trouble winning games on a consistent basis.
...i know neither player is likely ready for a full time role, but I'd love to see the Rangers get McIlrath and Mashinter in the lineup to help form a blue collar, lunch pale identity for this team.
When they were winning and scoring goals they were doing just that. Hitting more. Playing physical ( relatively speaking) forechecking, even Zucc was rushing the net, etc. hello! Anyone detect a pattern here? They were to busy sunning it up with their daddies to play a good hockey game.
Its time to address the holes on this team that are now becoming increasingly apparent. Pouliot and Pyatt bring absolutely zero to this team (force another team to take them in any trade). Boyle and Moore are fine for fourth line, but need an enforcer to play with to make them play bigger. Dorsett is a perfect third liner who can skate, score occasionally, and adds grit. Mashinter or Miller would be a nice compliment on the other wing to Dorsett. The top two lines are interchangeable to whatever works. Hagelin and Brassard are just not consistent enough to keep and should be shopped for a first line center ( O'Reilly- stlll think he might be available in Feb.) Bring up McIlrath, and eventually find a replacement for Girardi.
Team needs to find some kind of Lucic, at least one, who can both play and set physical presence.....
It started with Orr not getting resigned. Every good heart and muscle guy finds his career with us. And then isn't rewarded. Its a joke. Kind of like most the forwards on payroll.
Again, few people want to hear it. This teams fortunes changed for the good -- and the bad -- with Brandon Prust. Period..... and we never replaced him.
Michael Haley ? He puts up points in Hartford and the kid has muscle . Reminds me of Rick Rypien . He played a few games last season and was responsible with puck and played the body well . Unless there is off ice issues.? I don't understand why he doesn't get a call up ?
When Talbot plays I enjoy watching them. Enforcer is needed. At least I could watch a decent scrap in between naps
The only problem with the Rangers is they are 6th in the league in shots on goal but next to last in goals scored. 'Nuf said.
It really comes dow to the makeup of the Rangers lineup, where pretty much all the top-9 forwards except Nash belong on a second line, and none are natural third-line checkers who can initiate physical play.
Bressard is a not-so-great second line center. Behind Stepan and Richards who are better second-line centers. And Hagelin, Kreider, Zucs, Cally - none of them belong on a third line or are effective in that role (Hags especially, who always brings the best out of his scoring linemates but disappears as soon as he goes down to the third line).
I really don't know what the Rangers can do about it, without a blockbuster trade that remakes the team. It kind of all gets back to letting Prust go and breaking up the Boyle-Prust-Fedatenko line. It changed the makeup of the whole team.
During the stretch where the team was putting up 3-5 goals, they were doing all the right things...hard forecheck, guys in front of the net, physical. Those things have largely been absent for the last few games. Get back to what works!
Cannot understand why the Rangers don't just bring up Haley to play 4th line and help out wih toughness. He can def hold his own with the 4th Line TOI- really - better for team - betters than playing JT on 4th line and than complaining hat he's not producing with 4 min TOI -
Stop the nonsense talk... U posted couple days ago after Talbot shutout how great team was... Now this? U should just become islanders or devils fan
@EugenePlaksienko Lucic is a one-of-a-kind player. There's no one else like him. There's players that play the same type of game, but getting anyone similar to Lucic is a pipedream.
@shishya100 Two words: Shooter tutor.
@PharmerBern Great point. One thing I always said about Dubinsky was even when struggling to score he did the little things to help the Rangers win such as hitting, fighting, playing defense, etc. Unfortunately, guys like Richards, Brassard and Pouliot need to be scoring or they're useless.
@pkh33 I hate to say it, but those things have gone away since Nash came back into the lineup.
@Kevin DeLury @pkh33 The parallels with Nash's return to the line-up are mind-boggling. Same thing with the PP. You take a group of guys who are collectively performing fine, add an world-class scorer, and it all seems to go out the window.
Not sure if guys are expecting Nash to carry the team while the others sit back, or theyre forcing the play to him. Last season our record without Nash was pretty bad, but I'd have to imagine its quite the opposite this year.
Same thing happened with Ritchie last season - everyone focused on getting him the puck and trying to jump start him and in that case all he did was turn the puck over. Nash is a game changer but should have been eased back into the lineup to allow him to get his legs and gel with the team again.
As I've said numerous times now the energy guys on each line Kreider, Cally and hags have got to out skate and hit for our team to succeed. The speed and physicality opens up the ice and allows Ritchie, step, Zucc and brass to work the puck and set up the rest of the guys!
Show some jam - act like you give a damn and we'll start to see the team turnaround!
LETS GO RANGERS!!!