The New York Rangers (12-11-0) defeated the Nashville Predators (11-10-2) by the score of 2-0, tonight. For a box score, go to Yahoo! Sports.
...easily one of the best all around efforts of the season for the Rangers. You know, minus the fact that they're still struggling to find the back of the net. But hey, when you play defense like that, all you need is a few opportunistic goals and you're all good.
...not much action for Talbot, but when you haven't given up a goal in two games, you must be doing something right. I've said it a couple of times this season, but Talbot needs and deserves to get 25-30 starts this season.
...amazing how much tighter the defense is with Talbot in goal than Lundqvist. The King must be wondering if his teammates like him at this point.
...the one aspect of McDonagh's game we all felt might hold him back from being a legit Norris Trophy candidate was his offense. Welp, I think he better start making room on his mantle for multiple pieces of hardware.
...not only nice to see Stepan help the Rangers win the game, but also help his own chances of making the US Olympic team by scoring in front of Nashville GM David Poile, who is also serving as Team USA GM.
...hey Zucc, don't listen to anyone telling you to shoot, just keep feeding the rock.
...bravo Mr. Dorsett, bravo. The game was evenly played until he decided to stick up for the fallen Boyle. I never want to hear that teammates sticking up for one another doesn't give a team a lift because that's exactly what Dorsett did tonight. The Rangers still need a real enforcer, but that's another conversation for a different day
...not sure I've enjoyed watching a Rangers fourth line this much since the last time D. Moore was with the team.
...in the last eight days the Rangers have played two 1-0 games, a 2-0 game, a 2-1 game and a 3-2 game. Weren't these low scoring, one goal games supposed to go away when the Rangers hired AV? The life expectancy of a Rangers fans must be so much lower than the average human being.
...after Del Zotto's two absolutely egregious giveaways on the Rangers first power play, I thought he settled down and had a solid game. Hey, if I'm going to kill him when he's bad, I've got to give him credit when he's good.
...things went so well for the Rangers tonight, Pouliot even had a couple of nice offensive plays. Of course he didn't finish, but beggers can't be choosers.
...btw, was it me or did AV look like an evil henchman with that all black ensemble tonight?
...off tomorrow then in Tampa Monday night.
Post game talk...
A good solid win. scary that it could have been tied in the last 3 mins when Preds hit back to back post shots. We need more goals - but give credit to Preds goalie he made some great saves.
Hey Hey Ho Ho MDZ has got to go! At least off the PP. Entirely. He is lazy. Those two giveaways were ridiculous. Any other defender we have should be out there instead. What happened to Stralman on the PP? He was decent there last year. MDZ also made a few real bad "homerun" passes during 5on5 that turned to icings immediately. Sorry for complaining after a win but MDZ doesn't belong in the lineup if he can't learn from his YEARS of mistakes. Man that kid makes me soooo mad! Totes.
Tampa Bay will be a test. Let's go boys!
AV has great patience and that has impressed me about him so far this season. Torts had none and that killed him.
I think it's great to see AV allowing the lines to hell without the incessant tweaking and although we aren't a high flying scoring machine and may never be the puck domination and opportunities being generated are inspiring! The lineup is looking good, rolling all four effective lines, and with solid play from talbot we are on a very positive track right now. Hopefully we can start having more guys find the back of the net, but at least we are getting opportunities and shooting not just passing around the perimeter and turning the puck over without ever taking a shot. Lots of positives right now let's hope the trend continues! LGR!!!
Oh and since it's a forgone conclusion that pylon will be back in the lineup sooner than later please put him on the 4th line and let Dorset move up to the 3rd he seems to have decent hands and chemistry with brass!
The Rangers are still finding their game in so many ways -- and part of that is figuring out how to score. In the meantime, it's smart to play games like this one that are poised and patient. They match the other teams' game and do a good job of getting to pucks first. I agree with Ken Daneyko that their getting to pucks first has as much or more to do with being sound positionally rather than simply being faster than opponents. We've got a couple really fast guys, but that's not what gets us to the puck all the time. The Rangers spent a lot of time in Nashville's zone last night and that was great to see even when they weren't necessarily creating scoring chances. I believe that more goals will come if and when the Rangers solve some of their other problems / answer some of their other questions. In the meantime, this is a good start.
Still can't believe what a steal it was to land McDonaugh! He could arguably be our best player (Ok, maybe Hank and Nash too, with Kreider not far behind), but did you see him diffuse that breakaway like it was nothing? Plus a goal- on a deflection?! Sick.
Seems like a good cup recipe- top goalie, a top D who can play about half the game (as guys like chara do consistently) and a well-rounded forward attack...getting there.
It was good to Zucc taking shots. I don't think Stepan scores that goal if Zucc hadn't taken those two or three previous shots.
The Rangers defense is on Fire!! They've held opponents to 2 goals or less in 14 of the last 16 games... very impressive. On the flip, am I the only one who dozed off a few times during the game??? lol LGR!!!
Great line: "The life expectancy of a Rangers fans must be so much lower than the average human being." I believe this to be true.
Thank God for Dave Maloney! Hopefully he'll replace that dumb ass Michlletti soon. I digress. He definitely commented on how solid Stralman was this game and all season for the Rangers. To be honest Kevin, with you putting him in the same category as DZ and J Moore in previous game analyses I thought we were watching completely different games.
To be clear, Stralman has been the most consistent D all year. I will listen to people arguing McD has been better but all other D have been as unreliable as an expired pregnancy test. He is extremely hard to beat one on one, makes solid break out passes, neutralizes the opposing teams forecheck with his ability to make quick plays, and even gets his shots through from the point instead of banking them against the boards as Girardi seems to try 50 times a game (cept today of course). He is so underrated and it drives me nuts how many people throw him under the bus. He has been a rock back there since the 2012 playoffs and rangers fans need to start showing the love because we need to keep this guy in town (not too much love or we won't be able to afford him). Watch stralsy!!!!!
good teams win with defense- starts with in Net followed by the D and ends with the backcheck of forwards..
Loved what dorsette did. And its crazy that this team looks nothing like the did tonight defensively when hank is in net.
Solid analysis regarding Dorsett. Having said that, I disagree with your comment that the blue shirts need an enforcer (outside of Dorsett) and think it's silly when you go on to say that you haven't enjoyed watching the 4th line this much since D. Moore was last on the team. Dressing a goon like John Scott, Colton Orr, among others detracts from the entire line's ability to forecheck, let alone maintain the puck and create scoring chances.
"The Rangers still need a real enforcer, but that's another conversation for a different day...not sure I've enjoyed watching a Rangers fourth line this much since the last time D. Moore was with the team."
Have to say, really enjoyed watching them live for the first time since the Thrashers bolted from Atlanta.
My family had a great time & it was enhanced by the 3 guys behind us who drove down from Jersey for the game - a couple great "My Cousin Vinny" references were made, and there were tons of Ranger jerseys all over. Glad Talbot earned another shutout.
Thought I was the only one that was creeped out by the all black suit...
Kreider for Team USA... he is better on the International ice and that speed and size could help them bring home the gold (chemistry of Kreider-Stepan-Callahan as a third line could be magic).
Solid game... and I agree Hank must want to see this kind of defensive effort in front of him sometime soon... Big games coming up this week and then the two huge matchups with the Bruins and Canucks... LGR!!!
Talbot too old for Calder. According to NHL.com: "Beginning in 1990-91, to be eligible for this award a player must not have attained his twenty-sixth birthday by September 15th of the season in which he is eligible."
Talbot was 26 before Sept. 15th.
why isnt talbot on here http://www.nhl.com/ice/rookies.htm?navid=nav-ply-rkies# hes a rookie right?
Couldn't agree more about the scoring. Good teams win by bigger margins. As dominant as the Rangers were, this game could have been lost. A few post saves preserved the shutout and the win.
Talbot has really exposed how much Hank's puck handling hurts the team. He always allows the other team's forecheck to catch up and then tosses it along the boards to no one in particular. I love him, but he needs to spend more time working on that. It shouldn't be hard to get better. Talbot isn't even that good at moving the puck, but the small upgrade makes such a difference.
He dropped the sponsor that negated his chances and I would have to say he's a lock and probably the star of the team!
Delzaster and Ritchie on the point last year killed the pp because they couldn't get the puck on net or keep it in the zone! The biggest difference in our pp this year has been the zone time and the pressure in front of the net. If they keep this up they will be rewarded and if nothing else we as fans can stop screaming decline the pp.
@jslnyr1102 ... and it probably killed the team's confidence in him.
That lines chemistry is very strong and hopefully Kreider and step will start taking advantage of the setups and now that Zucc is shooting more it's spreading the threats and he should pot a few too! Our little enforcer has become a solid two way player! Oh and for the haters who say he isn't NHL caliber - MZA FTW!!!
Ha! I didn't quite doze off, but it did cross my mind that it was a rather boring game for stretches. Both teams played pretty safe, waiting for the other side to make the first mistake. It's sound hockey but not the most entertaining.
Thanks for mentioning Stralman. He clearly had his work cut out when he joined the team but with perseverance, he's quietly become a solid top 4 D and one of the reasons the Rangers continue to be so strong defensively.
On the other hand, Girardi has not looked quite like himself of late. Someone mentioned that Cally didn't seem like himself and maybe he's favoring something or nursing an injury; I feel the same about Girardi, he doesn't look quite as tough or like he's got his full game at his disposal.
@GiveGartneraCup I haven't been on him in a while actually. Thought he was real bad at the beginning of the season. But who wasn't. He has definitely turned things around with most of the team.
@GiveGartneraCup He also lays out other players with those nasty hip checks!
@ToddHarvey Talk to us about not needing an enforcer when our star players start getting targeted by the other team or there enforcers start wearing The Rangers down. Every team needs an enforcer. If we didn't have enforcers/scrappers in 2012 we would have never made it to the playoffs let alone Eastern conference finals. Hell look at last years Bruins series.
@Kevin DeLury They changed it after Makarov won it and he was like 32 or something
@Kevin DeLury More like TALBOT FOR VEZINA!!!
@iwantgaborik He's a rookie but I'm guessing that's guys eligible for the Calder and he's too old for that. You have to not have reached your 26th birthday as of September 15th. He was already 26 by then.
@iwantgaborik Isn't he too old to qualify? I'm not really sure.
@iwantgaborik That's ridiculous.
@Mario Cosentino I know it varies from shot to shot, but in alot of cases and i think especially tonight a post save just means the goalie was playing the angles well, it was either hit the goalie or the post, no in between where 2 inches left or right would have made a difference. Talbot faced minimal shots, but he came up huge on alot plays. I think this game was theirs all the way through
@Wallace1 Guess I was the only one that saw that pass he made to Callahan last night... Come on guys... Stop bashing Hank just to bash Hank... He is the best freakin goalie in the league
@Wallace1 I agree that Hank has always been weak handling the puck,but in general he already works as hard in practice as any player in the league,he's famous for it,so if he hasn't improved by now he's never going to.
@Wallace1 Great point!
@KLorNYR Agreed. The Younger players have much better poise than in the past.
definitely glad to see him shoot -- you have to! even if his strength is in those prefect passes, all the more reason he can spend a little time getting more comfortable taking the shot.
Zucc's been working hard, the coach, his teammates, and fans are noticing ... it's easy to be a fan
Detroit hasn't had a true enforcer since 95 and has made the playoffs every year since. I completely agree with Holland in the article below. Obviously, I'd love to have Lucic on the team (safe to say Girardi would too) or another, bigger "deterrent" than Dorsett like a Simmonds or Neil who can skate and play the game but guys like that are few and far between.
@nyny6464 @Wallace1 It's not a skill necessarily born from natural talent. It's knowledge, knowing when and where to throw the puck. I don't see how you can't get better at that. He'll never be Brodeur or Mike Smith, but he should be able to progress the puck. His pass to Cally against Dallas proved that he has the ability to make a difficult play. It's not like he mishandles things, he just waits too long.
The enforcer no longer has a place in the NHL. They are a dying breed at best. Sather always tried to provide an enforcer -- Scoot, Boogaard, Brashear -- but Torts, and now AV, have no use for such a player. The league is too good, there is too much skill out there to waste a position on an "enforcer." It's true for every team, that's why the enforcer has been steadily phased-out. To Colton Orr's credit, he has steadily improved and helped himself to remain relevant.
Mashinter has shown that he can actually play at a certain level, he has yet to put it together for the NHL. I also think Michael Haley is a better player than he gets credit for. It's good to have them in the system and I'm glad Mashinter has been rotated in a few times, but they'll both need more experience if they're going to help us when we need it the most: down the stretch.
@JMK8363 How about Chris Neil?
A bigger tough player like Lucic is what we need not a pure enforcer. A guy who is a heavyweight instills fear and can play the game. These guys generally need to be found young because they are prized possions for any team and generally have short careers just look at clowe... I think Kevin's mancrush mash is our best option unless slats can work some real magic this season. Long term we need to draft a rugged power forward! Please please don't throw the check book at an over the hill or pure enforcer. Clowe last year and Scott the year before are great examples. Now if we can only get the devils to bite on more over paid junk this off season... LGR!!!
@ToddHarvey I don't think they need an enforcer in there every game, but I do think they need one one the roster for certain games.
Yes, I praised the fourth line, but I'd have no problem juggling the lineup a bit to get a bigger, tougher player in the game against a team like the Bruins.
@Wallace1 @nyny6464 Stating that he'll never be as good at it as Brodeur or Smith pretty much confirms that natural ability DOES have a fair amount to do with it,since no one works harder at his craft than Hank does.If he were in his 1st or 2nd year that would be one thing,but this is his 8th season.Do you really expect him to improve at it significantly at this point?In any case,he's already won a Vezina regardless,so we shouldn't be too greedy.