Wow, apparently ending a three game winning streak by losing to one of the best teams in the NHL by a single goal means the Rangers would now be willing to trade one of their best young players for an enigmatic Russian. Makes sense.
Piggybacking on the possible Rangers/Oilers trade talk, Jim Matheson at the Edmonton Journal says the only way the Blueshirts would deal Chris Kreider to Edmonton is if 2012 first overall pick Nail Yakupov headed to New York in return.
Matheson also adds that the Oilers have long liked Michael Del Zotto.
Yakupov, who has a year remaining on his $925,000 entry level deal, has been rumored to want to go back to Russia to play in the KHL. He had 31 points (17g, 14a) last season, but just three points (1g, 2a) in 14 games this year.
...if the Oilers are so interested in Del Zotto, why don't they trade Yakupov for him? I'm down with that trade.
...as far as the Rangers trading Kreider goes...
...the kid finally flashes some of the brilliance we've all been waiting to see and I'm expected to believe the Rangers would now be willing to trade him? C'mon man.
...yes, Yakupov is an immense talent, but let me ask you this, if he's so good, why would the 4-10-2 Oilers be looking to trade him and his very minimal salary after just 62 NHL games? Oh yeah, could it be that he's already stopped playing hard because he doesn't like the situation he's in. Sounds like the perfect addition to the Rangers.
If they want Del Dizazter send him immediately....harder to let Kreider go, as he looks as though he is finally finding his confidence. How about adding JT to the trade?
I will be officially shopping for a new team if they traded Kreid. Not gonna happen. Maybe they'll take MDZ and Pyatt? Nice NDZ had a better game while the scouts were in town
Speed and size don't go into slumps. Sather would have to be an absolute moron with his head so far up his ass that he could monitor his own prostate to make this trade. No one with half a brain would make this trade.
It would be idiotic to trade Kreider. Edmonton doesn't need him. We shouldn't be looking to move him. We're interested in Yak because we want MORE Kreider like players. Trading Kreider for Yakupov, while an upgrade, is still stupid. It's like NYR fans wanting Jeff Petry from the Oilers. Why would they give up their only competent d-man? They need MORE players like him, not less guys.
I posted this but for some reason I don't see it posted:
let's put this in perspective. a few years ago the pens traded Alex Goligoski for James Neil and Matt Niskinin. I would like to see Sather model this DZ trade after that trade. after all DZ is pretty much the same player as Goligoski.
let's put this all in perspective. a few years ago the pens traded Alex Golagoski to the stars James Neil and Matt Niskonin. DZ is sort of the same player Golagoski is. can Sather try to model the DZ trade after this!? let's hope.
Not sure why Edmonton would want to be messing around with MDZ when they don't have a quality goalie that cover up for the defensive mistakes he makes. Word out of Toronto is they are working on a deal for Reimer. I see that one flying before the MDZ, Miller deal.
If Krieder plays at the same level as he has played recently consistently, same points, same physicality, same playmaking- game in game out.Then it is not worth a gamble because of the Russian factor .Kreider would be helping the team but Yakupov could be gone to KHL.
Heard what Edmonton wants from the Ramgers is DZ + Miller + a first for Yakupov. Don't think I can pull the trigger on that. Take out miller, put in Fast and a second (instead of the first) and I do it
if they trade kreider, i am done with this organization. I am as big of a fan as they come, however, if I have to watch Sather destroy this team again, im done!....so, if any of the managment or team officails see this, I AM DONE IF YOU TRADE KREIDER!....i think i can speak for alot of fans on this.
Nobody listen to Simon Em. He has yakpoo on his 9th place (out of 10) fantasy team and is grasping at straws.
Kreider ain't going anywhere right now......MDZ is another story and then we can bring up Connor Allen...
Though two years ago, Yakupov said he wanted to be in the NHL, the rumor lately is that when his contract is over, he wants to go back to the KHL. If the Rangers were to make a trade for this guy and he bolts, especially if they trade Krieder for him, that would be a disaster.
When Av was asked yesterday whether Miller would be back in the line up, he said he would do what is best for the team. I guess running Pyatt out there is best for team...... I don't buy this safe stuff with him. I think it sends a bad message accepting his performance or lack of to those trying to make this team or stay with the club and also to this lowly non knowledgeable fan.
Nothing would piss me off more then trading Kreider for this under performer. Fire Sather!
Moving on, I don't have the money or availability for season tickets but watch every Ranger game. Are the fans sitting on their hands, the acoustics or bad mic placement. The crowd sounds like they are watching a poker tournament
I want this to end today. either make a trade that makes sence or tell everyone to pound sand. I hate this crap.
I agree he is lazy but very skillful. If the trade involves kreider, I'm against it. However if the trade involves mdz, Boyle and Pyatt-I'm 1000% for it
Yakupov has a MUCH higher ceiling and talent then kreider. I would love for this to happen. Yakupov clearly stated he wants to be in the NHL when he came to the OHL 2 years before he was drafted. How anyone can argue that kreider is better is beyond me.
To me, these "rumors" are Edmonton writers mentioning what Edmonton would want....and yes they would want Kreider. I would too if I was them. So since Edmonton wants him obviously that means Sather is trading him. As for Del Zotto, that one actually makes me laugh more than Kreider (and not because of how DZ has been playing...people forget the fact Edmonton already has DZ. They need defensive defensemen not offensive ones lol.)
The Rangers need to start winning more otherwise the months of January and February are going to be unbearable with these ridiculous rumors.
Yakupov is spelled P-o-u--l-i-o-t. Top 15 pick 6yrs ago and has played for 5 teams in 5 years. One head case for another is the best that The Oilers can expect in a trade for Yakupov
If you're dealing for Yakupov, Kreider can't go. Otherwise you're swapping offense for offense which is a puzzling, lateral move.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne I'd give them DZ, Miller, & a 2nd.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne Totally fine with that. I love Miller but Yakupov is exactly what this team needs.
@messier I went to the ANA game on Mon. The crowd was very loud all around the arena when there was something to cheer about, but there were long stretches in that game where nothing was happening, and then it was pretty quiet. Loudest it got was when MDZ scored the goal and McD put Perry over the bench twice.
@Melissa (blknblueshirts) The rumors are gonna happen a lot this year, just because of the sheer fact that the NYR have 8 UFAs & 7 RFAs at the end of the year, and 3 UFAs & 3 RFAs the next.
@TheWrage What are you Torts with the lateral move talk?
@shoot_the_goalie Sigh...I know. I'm just not looking forward to it.