Everyone's favorite owner James Dolan recently gave an exclusive interview to the NY Post's Mike Vaccaro. While it mostly involved talking about Dolan the band mate, the status of Isaiah Thomas and the Knicks, the mercurial man did touch upon his other team, the New York Rangers, for a brief moment.
MV: Let’s talk about the Rangers a little bit. Is there a line of succession in place when Sather retires? Will he choose his replacement?
JD: Ultimately it’s got to be my call but I have a tremendous amount of respect for Glen and still feel very lucky to have him. He has a wealth of knowledge and experience and I don’t know if there’s anyone else in the NHL that’s better than him, but he’s got to be close to the top. His understanding of the game, his understanding of what makes a great player, and also he’s pulled off some trades I looked at him and said, “How did you do that?” As long as he’d like to stay I’d like to have him.
MV: A few years ago you took the mic at a postgame press conference and proclaimed the Rangers were on the right track for the Cup. Do you still feel that way?
JD: Yeah, I do. This is going to be an interesting year because we have a new coach and a new system. I’m heartened by what I’ve seen, it looks like the team is picking up on the coach’s strategy looks like they’re starting to jell, [Rick] Nash is coming back [Tuesday], we’ll see how that impacts the team. I like what I see. So much of hockey is playoffs, just like basketball, we’ve made the playoffs a bunch of times now but we haven’t … the closest we came was conference finals.
MV: It seemed as if John Tortorella was on the brink of perfect New York stardom — no matter what, you had an opinion on him, good or bad. Are you sorry that didn’t work out?
JD: I miss John Tortorella. I’d visit Torts before a game and we would trade barbs for 10 minutes, he’d tell me about his [lousy] cable TV service and I’d be sitting there saying, “You can’t clear the puck out of your zone, what the hell’s wrong with you?” and he’d strike back and then play the game and I miss that. I’m developing a relationship with Alain [Vigneault] and he’s also a good guy, but Torts and I had a special relationship. It was fun for me. He banned me from the locker room for a while, all in fun. I miss that.
- I would suggest reading the whole interview. It is great insight into a man who appears in front of the media less than Glen Sather, if that's even possible.
- I was fully expecting Jim Dolan to tell Vaccaro that he 'expects' a Stanley Cup from the Rangers this season. Maybe he'll guarantee the Rangers will win their next home game.
- That Torts nugget by Dolan was perfection. John Tortorella would even get snippy and fire back at the Owner. The man caters to no one. I miss him as well, James.
- Solid shot taken by Pat Leonard this morning:
Will wait to hear what Dolan thinks about last year's trades that led to a second round exit one year after a trip to the East Finals— Pat Leonard (@PLeonardNYDN) November 22, 2013
...apparently, not sniffing a Stanley Cup in 13 years means job security in Dolan's world. Sure, Sather has pulled off some magic act type trades recently, but he also turned an Eastern Conference Finalist into the Columbus Blue Jackets.
...two years ago, I did a 180 on Sather. I felt he finally understood how to build the Rangers into a winning organization. They were drafting the right personnel, signing character players and the team was winning. But what he's done to the Rangers since that Eastern Conference Finals appearance, has set them back in my opinion. Before hearing the above quote from Dolan, I really thought this was a make or break year for Sather. It was his decision to flip the team and fire the coach, so he absolutely needs to be held accountable if the team flames out short of a Stanley Cup again this season.
...as much as I criticize Dolan on the blog, we Rangers fans can't ask for a better owner. The guy is willing to spend whatever money it takes to build a winner. Not many owners are in a position to do that. Unfortunately, he is loyal to a fault. You saw it with Isaiah Thomas and now with Sather. You would hope Dolan would make decisions based on results, but instead he does it based on filling seats in his newly transformed arena.
Dolan is a horrible owner only if you are a fan, which....b/c he is in NY, are in endless supply. Therefore they have no effect on his decisions. If you are a player he is awesome.
The simple fact of the matter is that he is just a rich guy who b/c he was the fastest sperm gets to have a plaything called the Rangers. It will always generate him money no matter where they finish in the standings and I'm sure it gives him the same enjoyment it would give any of us. If he wants to entertain keeping incompetence bc of loyalty, or any other reason, he can do it with impunity.
If you're a fan of the Rangers the best bet is to not get too involved if absolutely ANY degree of your days enjoyment is dependent on how the Rangers play. Just watch and laugh a bit at how a rich kid is playing with his toy while other more savvy rich kids are doing it better with theirs. Hey, there is always the chance that through dumb luck the Rangers could assemble a decent team one year even with this bumbling owner and management, but it isn't likely.
Then turn on some of the better teams in the NHL to watch real hockey.
"...we Rangers fans can't ask for a better owner..." ummm, yea I think we can. Sure Dolan spends whatever is needed on the team, but he has zero interest in the final product, unless of course it starts losing him money. Spending money does not make one a good owner. Steinbrenner was a good owner in the fact that he spent money AND learned to let go of the reins after his re-instatement, and he won 5 championships. Jerry Jones was a good owner because he spent money and left the day to day operations to those in the know. The result...3 Superbowls before he made the mistake of getting too involved with his team. There's a balance that needs to be struck with an owner. Sure they need to be willing to spend, but they also need to have a passion for the team they are spending on. Give me Ilitch, Kraft, Mara, or Buss any day over Dolan.
that torts and Dolan relationship has Stanley Hudson and Michael Scott written all over it.
Hmmm, my only comment is that I was taught that if I have nothing nice to say to keep my mouth shut lol. Ok yes Slats has made a few good trades throughout the years
Hahahahaha. Dolan and Torts were best buddies. Getting tossed from the locker room "all in fun." Jimmy misses Johnny. Hahahahahaha.
Amazing Nugget about torts. Love it...
Also, did anyone see this buzzfeed on Rask???? Freaking hilarious
its unfortunate that dolan is not aggressive with his teams like he is with making money because he would have a wider reach having prominent, championship winning teams in NYC would make them have national appeal. Look at the Yankees...
You hit the nail on the head when you stated that Dolan's only priority is filling seats, and that is easily accomplished at MSG. Bad news is we'll have to wait for Sather to get hit by a bus. Good news is there's lots of busses in N.Y.C.!
Dolan also bases his decisions on his feelings. As seen by the firing of Knicks gm over the summer despite doing a great job turning that team around. If he doesnt like you, he will send you packing no matter how much of a benefit your are to the team. It's the flip side of what Kevin said regarding his loyalty. You can be awful at your job but if you have a great relationship w/ Dolan, you are golden!
unbelievable what he says about torts....no doubt now the players ran him out.
tomato face let him trade gaborik thinking we was long term coach, the owner apparently loved him so whos left? the boys lit the house and got him the f out
You didn't really think Dolan was going to grant an interview to the New York Post and then start calling people out, did you?
To expand real quickly on something i posted in the other thread about Sather's track record, to find a common denominator in his history:
In 1976-77, Glen Sather became a player coach for the Edmonton Oilers. He retired as a player at the end of that year and became the head coach through 1979 when the Oilers joined the NHL. In 1978, as coach, he was asked by the owner if they should go after to Gretzky, to which Sather said "yes". He was promoted to President and GM in 1980. In 1980, at the advice of Barry Fraser, Sather picked Paul Coffey, as well as Jari Kurri and Andy Moog. In 1981, at the advice of Fraser, he drafted Grant Fuhr.
So thats 4 good first round picks in 21 drafts.
In 2000, he joined the Rangers, where that ratio has only improved slightly.
I wouldn't give Jimmy D too much credit. The reason he is willing is precisely because he is in a position to spend money on his toys. Thank goodness for the salary cap or there would be Marcel Dionnes, Guy Lafleurs, Bobby Holiks, and Theo Fleurys all over his play pen AKA MSG.
The guy hires cronies. Period. Sure Sather has experience, but what it takes to rise to the top and stay there is to be pals with Dolan. As long as you're willing to kiss his ass, you've got a job for life. No accountability.
And Sather's huge shortcoming is his record in the draft. Enough already.
Sorry to disagree, but Rangers can ask for and deserve a better owner. He's a complete buffoon.
Gorton better be the succession plan. Look what he did for Boston when he was in charge. Guy Is a genius
Thankfully James Dolan's father built the company he works for because if he ran his business like his two pro sports team, we'd all be using FIOS!!!
@gravey94 Well I think you've nailed the problem. Dolan spends money and leaves the day-to-day operations to those in the know. Unfortunately those in the know aren't doing a very good job. Again, loyal to a fault.
I love that Dolan has an open checkbook and stays out of the Rangers affairs.
No comment ( since I don't have anything nice to say). Just try to remember the last time a Dolan team won a championship. You can do the math
@johnnyb3910 I can tell you from my time in Media that Dolan never considered any of this revealing info. Nor did Dolan ever take a look at the results produced by other GMs before hiring Sather.
Dolan hires upper management on the basis of "man crushes." For him Sather fell into that category, as did Isiah Thomas who managed to really publicly and embarrassingly screw up his own hire. There is zero history of Dolan ever reversing his "man crush" decisions. Dolan, as you can easily imagine, has a man crush on himself! He believes himself to be a great leader, a great presenter and a strong closer of big money deals. If you ever saw him in action....well enough said.
Dolan's dad gave him The Garden and his Cable Co. to run because it was thought that those entities are cash cows and there would be little chance that little Jimmy could screw them up..........and from pure financials, Daddy was correct.
Perhaps we all should think of how we could "fit Dolan for shoes?"
@johnnyb3910 Eye opening.
@AnnoyingJoe I don't blame Dolan for that. He trusts Sather to make the correct decision regarding personnel.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne Be careful with referencing his Boston days. He was GM for all of 3.5 months before they replaced him with Peter Chiarelli. The only move that actually happened under his watch was trading Andrew Raycroft for Tuuka Rask.
I was trying to compare Fraser's input with that of Gorton in NYR, showing that Sather can't do it alone, but it didnt turn in to much. Fraser worked for the Oilers from 1979 to 2000. And if Gorton didn't get hired with the Rangers until 2011 (which is all i could find), then Sather picked guys like Staal and Kreider without Gorton's help. And he also had some bad luck with Blackburn and Cherapanov. But he was still responsible for Sanguinetti, Jessiman, Korpikoski, etc.
He throws money around and is loyal to incompetents. He kept Isaiah around as long as he did because everyone with common sense was calling for his head. Nobody tells baby what to do. He stinks, and I don't like him.
@DubiLeetch @johnnyb3910 @Kevin DeLury sure, thats exactly why i left the gorton/fraser thing alone. Fraser was head of scouting for all those years that Sather was GM, so theres good and bad. If you had told me that Fraser got fired after 1982, though, then there would have been some correlation.
I also think Dubinsky hit the nail on the head with the "shiny new toy" analogy. Every time Kevin posts a video in a game thread for a match up for 2 to 15 years ago, its amazing to watch the names. You'll see names on jerseys and you won't know who they are or that they were ever on the Rangers. Sather always goes after the hot commodity, and then has to fill in the holes with a mish-mash of pieces.
@johnnyb3910 @Kevin DeLury alot of bad no doubt but the good gets over looked. have to admit hes built a consistent contender and a ny style team. traded for guys like prust and mcdonagh, scooped stralman off waivers, zuccarello international signing. they have made so many moves recently its alot to swallow but theres ALOT of good transactions las few years. ok not a great drafter but pretty good last decade, staal, hank, cally,, girardi, kreider, hagelin, del zotto, and used dubi nis to get nash. not the sexies picks but thast the whole team for crying out loud. looks pretty good to me.
Throw money around? No. Spend money? Yes. I think that he makes shitty decisions that yield zero results and then throws money at it instead of stepping back and maybe admitting he made a shitty decision. That makes him a bad owner.
You're right. It would be great that he was willing to spend money if he wasn't an idiot and doing it for the wrong reasons.
@AnnoyingJoe All I want from my owner is for him to throw his money around. My criticism as I state above is his blind loyalty.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne A) Genius move now, but Rask wasn't sensational out of the gates.
B) Very valid point, Chiarelli made more of the moves that built the Cup Winner, but Gorton def played a role.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne so what. is marchand better than any of slaths draft picks? lucic is a power forward who recently started scoring last couple years. ooooooo lucic and marchand, god you guys sweat boston. you trading rask for hank? noooo so who got the better goalie? slats. marchand doesnt make our top line and lucic is GOOD power forward at best