Ever since the Rangers began flipping rosters with the Columbus Blue Jackets, Blueshirts fans (including myself) have complained about the trades gutting the hard working, lunch pale mentality that defined the 2011-12 Eastern Conference Finalist team.
But the fact remains that despite the influx of Ranger fan favorites, Columbus was unable to qualify for the playoffs last season and currently sit in sixth place in the Metropolitan Division after a four game losing streak. Meanwhile your Blueshirts, buoyed by the pieces obtained in the Marian Gaboik trade, made a nice little run to the Eastern Conference Semi-finals last year after a disappointing regular season and have won four of fives games as they continue to get more comfortable in Alain Vigneault's system.
For Columbus, Brandon Dubinsky, who has become the de facto captain of the Blue Jackets, is still having issues finding the back of the net as evidenced by his three goals this season, while Artem Anisimov isn't that far behind with four. And remember Tim Erixon? Yeah, he hasn't suited up in an NHL game this season.
Now, to make matters worse for the Blue Jackets, Marian Gaborik seems to be reverting back to the form that got him shipped out of New York last season as he's gone scoreless in his last four games with a -3, forcing his head coach Todd Richards to have a lengthy conversation with his sniper yesterday.
Gaborik wouldn't elaborate on the conversation, but did say this about his recent performance...
"Obviously everybody can do better. I can do better on and off the ice. We’re a desperate team right now. I need to bring more, and I will. I’m looking forward to this challenge with this team right now. We need guys stepping up, including myself. That’s all I have to say."
...while the former Rangers (don't forget Tyutin) are missed in their own unique way, I'm not convinced that the Rangers would be better off if they were all still on the team, even without Nash. They'd still be having issues finding the back of the net, while struggling to adapt to a new head coach.
...it's always nice to reminisce about the good times the Rangers had with former players, but know this Blueshirts fans, your team is in a much better position to make a run at the Stanley Cup than their Metropolitan Division counter-parts from Columbus despite us missing the passion and intensity a guy like Dubinsky brought to the table through examples such as this...
Its not the Columbus 3 that this Rangers team really misses. While Dubby was a great player to have on the team the real missing ingredient is Prusty! Imagine him back right now.
I dunno man think you may be wrong... Dubinsky anisimov and gaborik... wouldn't mind having these guts under the new system.
As an aside from hockey, did anyone ever notice that Dubinsky is a dead ringer for the actor who played the king on the elizabeth the queen series on cable?
Almost sad to say but can you imagine what could have happened if we traded leetch sooner? Not for nothing but we didnt do anything later in his career when he was still an elite player. I wonder who or what picks we would have got and how much sooner the rebuild could have begun. It annoys me because we all knew we sucked anyway then.
Rangers got the better deal...Columbus didn't make the playoffs last year, Rangers did...Also, Rangers are ahead of Columbus this year, and that's WITHOUT Rick Nash...
I agree, we're still the team on top, but you do have to recognize the growth that team has gone through in the past 2 years. Sure they didn't make the playoffs, but they missed by what, 1 point? A tie-breaker? We've had a few seasons where we backed in to the playoffs or missed on the last day, too. The only time we didn't, we were the second best team in the league, and that was before either of these moves. Doesn't everyone say "All you have to do is get in?" Well the guys we gave them have taken them from not even coming close, to missing out because someone else won their last game of the season. Not completely disagreeing, just throwing it out there.
Based purely on stats and expectations, I'd make both trades again, but I'd like to think about where we'd be if Sather simply moved Arti, Erixon, and Gaborik for Moore Brassard and Dorsett? But that's not really a fair question considering the second deal was made because of what was lost in the first. We moved grit and depth to get skill, then move some skill to get some grit and depth back...
They can have Nash and I'll even throw in Pyatt and Del Zotto for Gaborik, Dubinsky, Tyutin, Anisimov and a 1st.
every game we have is broadcasted... have to watch it in crappy Standard definition cause we dont get NHL Network HD down here :(
Dubi has 3, Artie has 4 which puts Dubi on a pace to get about 20 and Artie 25-30. for these guys I wouldn't call that a hard time finding the back of the net, especially dubi (I always thought Arte had the skill to be a 30 goal man). Still I have to agree. Both trades were good ones. Injuries are part of the game and Nash with his one documented concussion did not come over here as a health liability. You can't say it was a bad deal because Nash is hurt. It sucks but sh#t happens.
Good article. All of that is true and our biggest piece of those trades is injured.if he comes back in some semblance of his former self we win. Hands down.
I think this year we are short one good,tough and defensively responsible 4th line from being contenders.The last two playoffs showed how soft we were.Ottawa physically killed us,de-balled Boyle and left us beat and balless against Jersey.Last year Boston made us look weak as shit.I just don't get why Sather can't get us some good 4th line players.Mashiter could probably be one piece.Now get us a real 4th line center and wing.Coulld have gotten Konopka on the cheap before he went to Ottowa but no he throws a boatload of money for a goon who can't skate.Getting a good 4th line shouldn't be so hard.
My all-time favorite Dubi moment was when he called Crosby a crybaby during an intermission interview. For Anisimov it was his pump shotgun goal celebration that was highlighted on 24/7. That was f'n awesome. For Gaborik, it was during a team dinner. Prust was sitting next to him and Gabs has a full beer in front of him. Prust says on camera, "You should take it easy with the drinks, we have a game tomorrow." Gabs is embarassed and covers his beer w/ his menu. Classic.
i only miss dubi really. world class player the way he wears his heart on his sleeve. it sucked gaborik left but i feel better not having to worry when hes on the ice with the possibility he shatters like glass, and i really couldnt see anisimov get demolished with his head down anymore because its still happening. we are missing our biggest piece from what we got from CBJ but it doesnt look to be biting our ass anymore as i truly believe the young guys we have are going to hit superstar status soon (hags, kreids, underrated and undersized zuccs, steps, moore, brass, etc.) too much potential over here! i would do away with pouliot pyatt and DZ only. all self explanatory. pouliot has the skill but i think his window has closed for hitting his stride as a gamechanger as he was once looked at to possibly be. anyway.. LGR!
I agree with this...although I wouldn't have been opposed to keeping Tyutin. He's always been a pretty solid defenseman. We did get Zherdev...but for literally one season.
That the Rangers are better is true but I remember Gaborik as the Ranger killer before he came to New York (can you say 5 goals). Will mister streaky light it up tonight?
They were good trades for the Rangers,Sather signed the wrong fringe players to make-up for the grit and heart we lost in Dubi and Prust.Asham and Halperin and Pyatt were all like the bottom of the barrel on available free agents.
I completely think we got the better of these deals and I wouldn't change a thing. But, I still think we will need to add some Cup experience to the lineup. We need some guys in the locker room who have made a Cup run before and understand what it takes. Richard's cup was nearly decade ago. The Columbus guys are young and talented but have always lost.
No question the Rangers got the better end of the deal...
Nash>Gaborik (and younger)
Moore>Erixon times 1000
Then we had to give up dubi... have to give something to knock it out of the part like this.
Also got dorsett who has become a nice tone-setter/enforcer for us...
Thing I am most upset about is that first round pick... Otherwise they were great trades
Tough to tell. I assume he'd have the initial bumps like everyone else, but eventually flourish in it once comfortable.
I miss Dubinsky a ton but Brassard definitely has a better skill set.
I think the thing that killed the Rangers last year was losing Prust.
Dubi's the only player I miss, but I wouldn't hesitate for a millisecond on that trade. Keep in mind, the black and blueshirts had a phenomenal season, but there's nothing that states they wouldn't have grown tired of Torts' tirades either and may not have even made the playoffs last year. That was not a team built for long term success.
I'm sorry but Dubi is sorely missed
we would trade Brassard back to Columbus for Dubi in a NY minute!!!
I'm sure Cally would agree..
you cant measure Dubi's heart and/or his intangibles on a score sheet...
What are you talking about? Is that a mistake or am I reading that right? The guy who scored 40 twice under a defense first team wouldn't succeed in a puck possession strategy? Gaborik would have 8 goals by now on this team. I wonder if the Jackets will try to dump him at some point since they already have Horton long term. Maybe Gaborik could find himself back on Broadway for a few months before moving on in free agency.
Yeah and the two teams can switch spots in the standings too. They'll get their players back with playoff experience and go make a run while the Rangers can find themselves revert back to what we saw in California a month ago. The worst team in the NHL. The Rangers got the better end on both trades no matter what players you like or dislike. Sather took Columbus to the cleaners.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne The Columbus feed on MSG sucks. It's HD but it's so grainy. I will give NBC that...their feeds are always good quality HD. MSG feeds at the Garden are good too.
@nick13 Guy is literally useless
@KreiderisTheChosenOne Yeah Nash is the better player but what has he done for the Rangers. I know its not his fault that he got hurt but still, the playoffs he was a no show. Gaborik had 2 40 goal years for us. You cant say who got the better end of the deal yet its too soon.
@dylonergan I think it was the combination of losing both. Team probably could have sustained losing Prust or Dubi, but not both.
@gravey94 How do you know that wasnt a team for long term success they were only all together for one year, had great success, should have beaten the devils. Not to mention a very close group of guys that had everyones back
@nadslibra17 Listen, I love Dubi's passion just as much as the next guy, but Brassard seems way more equipped for AV's system.
@Paulie Gualtieri @gravey94 Should have beaten the Devils? I'm always hesitant to say they should have cause they didn't. They didn't cause they were overextended and were flat out hustled by the Devils. Hate to say it, but we got beat by a better team in that series cause the Devils were deeper and could roll four lines, and they had more jump to their step. Just cause the NYR were a higher seed, didn't mean we were the better team.
@Paulie Gualtieri @gravey94 Because when you don't score and have to rely on 1 guy that has a good season every other year you're not set up for long term success. They would have beaten the Devils if Gabby didn't get hurt, but he did and they lost in 6. If they had a more balanced line-up, they would have gone further. Kinda like L.A. that year, but they had multiple people who could score.
@Kevin DeLury @nadslibra17 Dubi brought so many little things that go un-noticed. Hes always involved making plays even if he is not scoring. Really miss him. On another note Gaborik is UFA next year, imagine nash doesnt come back from the concussion and we sign gabby back. I can see it happening and i wont be mad at all