In my recap of the Rangers 4-2 victory in Columbus last night, I suggested that Alain Vigneault might want to increase the workload of Cam Talbot from the 20 games he mentioned before the season to at least 25. However, after the back-up netminder's fourth straight solid game to start his NHL career, the Rangers head coach reiterated the preferred workload to Larry Brooks at the New York Post...
“This is his first opportunity at this level and on this stage. He’s done well and now he needs to continue to do real well. We have 13 of these back-to-backs and a few other situations where we play a lot of games in a short period of time. I have said that I want to be able to give the back-up anywhere from 15-to-22 games, so that Henrik [Lundqvist] is in that 60-something range. I haven’t changed my mind on that.”
...right now, I'm in no position to criticize Vigneault on anything as he's pushing all the right buttons, but, if Talbot can continue this impressive play, I would hope he might reconsider his position. We've all seen Lundqvist breakdown in the playoffs multiple times due to carrying the team the entire season, so the less workload for Lundqvist the better. And don't forget this is an Olympic year as well, so Lundqvist's workload will be that much more intense.
...i continue to marvel at the calmness of Talbot. Kid doesn't get rattled. I have to assume because he's a bit older (26), he's mentally stronger than the normal rookie coming into the league. His game is very calm as well. Very sound positionally without unnecessary movements. As a goaltender, once you start flopping around, you're in trouble. Very rarely do you see that from him.
His most clutch save last night was this left leg beauty on Blake Comeau with less than five minutes remaining and the Rangers clutching to a one goal lead...
don't go overboard with Talbot yet. he's a 26 year old with 4 NHL games under his belt. and our other goalie just happens to be a future hall of famer still in his prime.
and to quickly add to that, it should energize hank to finally be relieved of the burden of winning every game for us all by himself, the rangers are becoming a team with guys all over the roster that can win a game for you...LGR.
becuase of the blueshirts' lack of scoring for the past forever years, hank has been forced to win most of his goals by one goal, making those indivdual starts tougher and the heavy workload even heavier...he's a beast and can handle and i would love to see him fresher for a playoff run than he has been in the past due to a solid backup, but the biggest difference could come from winning some games through out the season by a wider margin, thus making for a mentally fresher hank come cup time
OK, in honor of Time Magazine's cover, I'll bring up the Christie in the room...Does Talbot's play in any way influence the Rangers' decision on signing Hank or even the term they do offer? Interested to hear thoughts.
Kevin, you said, "As a goaltender, once you stop flopping around, you're in trouble." Did you mean once you start flopping around?
the one important thing that talbot does well is handle the puck !! something that we all know that henry doesn't, so that helps his game quite a bit w/ his defensemen.
Not to sound like a dick but best news from last nite is the pyatt injury...bring back mashinter or maybe even kristo (maybe a lil early for him tho)
The Rangers have 23 games in the 6.5 weeks left after the Olympics, including 16 in the month of March, and (my favorite) close the season with a Saturday night game in Montreal. A lot will have to do with Swedens' performance in the Olympics, but you have to imagine if they get to a medal game, Hank is going to come back from that trip a little drained. A week off and then a few solid days of practice may be really good for him. Hopefully going in to the break we have a comfortable enough hold on a playoff spot that Talbot can handle anywhere from 5-10 of those remaining 23 games, especially a few right off the bat.
it's nice having a solid backup in net. I think this is definitely taking pressure off of the players when Hank is not in and it's probably taking some pressure off of Hank to not feel like he has to be in net all time!
Funny how attitudes change after one game. So many yesterday we upset that Talbot was starting and now it's being asked if he should start more than 20 games.
this kid is a stud in the making, i finally feel confident when Henrik doesnt start, that we will still win
He reminds me a lot of what Blackburn looked like when he was in net, although Blackburn was younger. Very happy for Cam, he's definitely paid his dues.
@gravey94 I don't think it will have any bearing on Lundqvist negotiations. It will come down to money and terms.
@gravey94 I think it gives Sather a little leverage, maybe a few bucks less or a year here or there, but that's about it. Hank doesn't get paid the big bucks for positioning and stats, he gets paid because when the Penguins are running all over you for the first 10 minutes of a game, he keeps it 0-0. Talbot is solid, but I wonder what the score of the Pens game would have been with 5 minutes to go in the 1st the other night? 2-0? 3-0?
He'll probably be the winningest goalie in franchise history by the end of this season, and he's only halfway through his career. I don't think Sather wants to buy out Richards right now, but if it means keeping Hank, he'll do it, and he won't even budge. Mark my words, on July 3, 2014, we're all going to be talking about how ridiculous the years and dollars we just signed Hank for.
@gravey94 too early to tell. Hank is proven, Talbot not. Say My Name brought up an interesting point though. If we're not really contenders, do we trade Hank for something big and then aggressively go after him in free agency since he probably would demand a very high priced contract anyway whether in FA or a resigning?
@AG_Blue Yes I did. I need to start reading what I write before publishing it. Grrrrr.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne Nope. Only players that have done it are Ken Morrow (1980), Shanahan & Yzerman (2002), and Toews/Keith/Seabrook (2012). Hank could be the first ;-)
Also anyone see Hanks pads for the stadium series? Makes you wonder if they are going to have pinstriped jerseys as well...
@weregnalose I absolutely disagree. Pyatt may not move quickly, he may not be flashy in the offensive zone, but more often than not he is a reliable defensive player who the head coach trusts. He can play the PK, he's not as bad along the boards as we all make him out to be. He's a fourth liner, nothing more...nothing less. Plus, if Miller is gonna make piss poor efforts to play defense and block shots like he did last night, I feel like that fourth line took a massive hit losing Pyatt. With the loss of Pyatt, I think we have to give Mash the time to actually play while also bringing up Powe to replace Pyatt on the PK and the fourth line. Kristo won't be brought up to play a fourth line role and Miller has to be sent down soon so he can gain valuable experience and play time.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne I'd like to see a little less, but when you're talking about a difference of 3-4 games, I guess it's not that big of a deal.
First of all, if you go up and down the standings, I'm not really sure what team would need an upgrade at goalie to become a clear cut favorite, and could afford it. Maybe Tampa. But say an injury pops up and he gets moved to a team like Detroit, St Louis or Chicago. He goes there and has a nice playoff run, maybe even reaches the finals or wins. You really think he's coming back here? At a reasonable price? It would cost Sather an extra 2-3 mil a year to get him back after he sees how much better he could be with a team that's a more consistent contender. Don't think for a minute that if Chicago made a run with Hank they wouldn't consider buying out Crawford and signing Hank.
Sather's best chance to sign Hank for a tolerable price is right now, when he has no certainty what his value on the open market is. I'm not saying don't trade him if we're out of it and Hank is being tough about negotiations, Sather can go right ahead, but once he leaves he's gone.
@gravey94 @johnnyb3910 @shoot_the_goalie While I'd love to see that, too, if Tampa is in a position to try to bring in a goalie who is about to be a UFA, it's because they think they have a shot at the cup, in which case Stamkos is not in any deal.
Any deal for Hank at the deadline is going to be mostly picks and prospoects. Maybe 1 or 2 proven, but green, NHL Players (think Kreider or Miller types coming to NY).
@johnnyb3910 @shoot_the_goalie @gravey94 Funny you should mention Tampa. Ever since the possibility of Hank not signing came up, I've been wondering what should happen. I still think Sather signs him, but if he doesn't think he can and needs to trade him, I would hope he tries to get NHL caliber players in return. My thought was something like Hank, Stepan, Miller/Kreider, and a prospect/pick for Stamkos and Bishop. Or pretty much any other combo of players for Stamkos. The chance to get a 23 year old center who averages 50 goals and close to 100 points a season would be a bold move, especially if they are going to lose Hank anyway. I'd hate to see Hank go, but if he does seeing Stankos skate around the Garden ice would certainly soften the blow!