Update, 3:07 p.m.:
If you missed Sather's conference call you can listen to replay at Rangers Report by clicking here.
Update, 2:55 p.m.:
"Yes I am (going to continue as GM)" - Glen Sather #NYR— New York Rangers (@NYRangers) May 29, 2013
...Sather has done a complete 180 with fans that last few years, but man, if the Rangers fall short again next season, he's got to be gone. Right?
Update, 2:27 p.m.:
Live audio of Sather conference call: http://betaplayer.radio.com/player/sports-radio-66-wfan-ny
Update, 2:25 p.m.:
Sather says, no decisions on Sullivan yet.
...LOL!!!!!!! I don't think anyone really expects him to survive.
...so when is Sather finally on the chopping block? Assuming this coaching decision will go a long way in deciding that.
Update, 2:20 p.m.:
#NYR GM Glen Sather says he thinks Torts "was a little bit shocked" when told he was fired— Pat Leonard (@NYDNRangers) May 29, 2013
Sather also says he wants to have a new coach in place before the draft on June 30th.
Update, 1:54 p.m.:
Just a quick thought. You have to wonder how much Henrik Lundqvist's breakup day comments clinched this move. He said the team took "a step back" this season and "we'll see" about signing an extension. I guess his "we'll see" was whether Torts was around or not.
Lundqvist comments after season "changed everything," according to a source— Elliotte Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) May 29, 2013
Update, 1:34 p.m.:
Renaud Lavoie at RDS reports that recently fired Canucks coach Alain Vigneault is a candidate to fill the position.
Glen Sather conference call at around 2:30pm on WFAN.
...great, so the Rangers are interested in the guy who got bounced in the first round the last two years with all the talent in the world on his team?
...got to assume Sullivan is a goner as well.
BTW, Sean Avery has officially chimed in....
Don't ever doubt what i say :)— Sean Avery (@imseanavery) May 29, 2013
...i will be updating post as additional information is available.
#NYRBREAKING: John Tortorella has been dismissed as head coach of the Rangers, source confirms— Katie Strang (@KatieStrangESPN) May 29, 2013
...WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am in complete shock. As I have mentioned numerous times, there is a lot to complain about when it comes to Torts, but this to me is a panic move. Unless, as Sean Avery told us, the players hated him and their lack of passion against the Bruins was the team sending a message that they've had enough.
...have to wonder if deal already worked out with Vigneault or Ruff.
I feel 16 and just lost my girlfriend and life we will not go one, initially feel lost without torts but all in all maybe this offense potential can be seen with another coach---regardless sad to see a guy who seems to really care go.
What happens in Vegas,stays in Vegas or in NYC??—
Marian Gaborik (@MGaborik10) May 29, 2013
Granted this is only coming from Gaborik; however, I have a funny feeling he's echoing the sentiment of many of the current Rangers...
I was at work, and suddenly, my phone blew up with the news! I'm hoping he becomes a color commentator (can you imagine the sound bites?) and punches Pierre, live, on camera.
I hope whoever they bring in to coach can point them in the direction of the other teams goal! The last coachsure didn't.
Apparently Sather did not even give Torts the courtesy of meeting him face to face but called from Palm Springs according to Power Play on siriusxm. They both should have gone.
Adam has just posted great list of initial candidates for the vacancy: http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2013-articles/may/who-are-the-initial-candidates-to-replace-john-tortorella.html
All u guys who want Leetch to coach the PP are way off base. Leetch is not a coach. Too soft spoken & he hates confrontation. Plus he does not want to put in the hours it will take.
Sean Avery needs to zip it, I'm sure he'll predict the sun rising tomorrow and also take credit for it...don't ever doubt you Sean? Seriously?
1. Any coach is speculative right now, obviously the available names are going to be thrown around with regularity until one is named - I'm not going to take anyone's word for the frontrunner yet.
2. Please god, not Ruff
3. Avery should just shut up & stick to the fashion world - I will never get the image of his vogue short suit out of my head
I think some players will prosper under a new coach/system. MDZ, Boyle, Zuch, Hags, Kreider--all of whom seemed to play while looking over their shoulder.
Richards was a special case. I think Torts was ridiculously patient with him and finally had to make a change. I think he'll bounce back because he never recovered from the lockout--but I'd still buy him out.
Even McD may show more offensive flair.
The players who may be negatively impacted may be Callahan and Giaradi--who are made for Torts.
I think Lundquist much rather give up 3 goals and win than two goals or less and go to overtime. It'll interesting if he has second thoughts under a less restrictive/d-first system.
Its not the coach its the players and talent level....Rangers need to sign some BIG defenseman with experience
My favorite thing about Torts was what incredible shape he kept his team in. Always at the top of the league in conditioning. Not so much this "year", sadly.
Dave Tippett. Without a doubt, one of the best coaches in the NHL, and we are lucky he happens to be available now. Just look at his record and playoff appearances with Phoenix . Amazing what he accomplished with that roster on a shoestring budget.
and I don't think avery got the last laugh,hes got no job and no prospects,oh yeah,hes a model,lol.good luck with that...
What are the chances we can get tipoett over here? I think that's gotta be the number one choice for this team
What was his tweet !? I can't see it!
Did he take it right down?
What did he say !?
@JustinRP37 Sounds like the courtesy Torts showed Richards when he benched him
@ThrSage Good points on Leetch. I also think Messier has no interest in coaching. If he did he would have accepted some coaching gigs within the Ranger or Oilers organizations years ago. if I recall Messier's Dad acted as his agent for years. That tells me Messier probably has more interest in a GM position.....sort of like Jeter and The Yankees
I know a lot of people believe that Torts was a poor coach and not very successful. I personaaly beleive his actuall wins and losses tell a different story. I also think he is a great developer of talent.But I think in a media center like NYC he most definitely should brush up on his P R skills and look to build bridges rather than fight with people.
My sense (and this is without any proof) that there is a rift between Sather and Torts over whatever "The Bard Richards Deal" means to all the parties in volved. Perhaps Tort's loyalty to Richards was an issue that led to Tort's removal? Tort's firing happened too quickly. It is not a stretch to "allow" him to finish out his contract, based on his accomplishments in NY,,,,,the guy accompllished a lot of good things. Even The King would admit that Tort's system helped win the Vezina.
I also think Henrik"s parting comments reveal that Henrik know a lot more about what is going on than we do.
The team's decisions on Richards and Sullivan will be very revealing, indeed.They will shed some more light on the reason (s) for Torts' quick hook!
@ShreddyMercury Mark my words: Roy will be a coaching disaster.
Plus Avs r in rebuilding mode, Rangers are in a window to win a a Cup. U don't bring a coach w-zero coaching experience into that.
@ShreddyMercury I think we need to forget about Mess he isn't a coach. We need a proven coach to build on the foundation Torts has laid out much like we did when we won our last cup.
@ShreddyMercury Roy has coached in juniors, while Messier never has.
Adam graves as GM? Really or are u joking? Cause Gravy is many great things however a GM is not one of them....too nice of a guy.
@jvr I would be very upset if Vigneault got the nod. His Canucks tenure was riddled with playoff underachievement.
@jvr he'd cry at every press conference
@MikeBlue I like it Probably the only coach mentioned so far that I can get behind
@MikeBlue Dallas and Phoenix. He's done well with both highly skilled and grinding teams. He was a good Whaler once, too.
@BigBrian1226 Mark Messier has no desire to coach. He wants to G.M.
I have a friend in the league who talks to Ranger mgt (not Slats) he gave me the skinny on what happened. it wasn't one thing. It was many but all of it comes back to the same thing. Torts is a combative difficult guy. His worst personality trait his his need to always be a contrarian. Mgt got tired of it. When the players complained Slats asked him to commit to changing some things & he said he wouldn't do that so Slats figured it was only a matter of time before the players revolted & so he made the decision to fire him. Also from what my friend tells me Slats was Torts last supporter in the front office he had alienated almost everyone.
Aso according to my friend ur in the right neighborhood about Richards but don't have the exact reason. Richards is very popular around hockey & many ppeople were outraged he was benched. If u ever listen to NHL radio u would think Torts benched messier in his prime the way so many people went on & on about it. It was exacerbated by the fact that people hate Torts so they were killing him. According to what I was t old Slats Torts made things worse by alienating so many people for no good reason. He also thought it would start affecting the organization in a negative way. Such as players not wanting to come here cause so many people in the league hate Torts. People were saying if he could bench a good guy & a profesional like Richards then he would do it to anyone.. Slats didn't reveal much yesterday but he hinted at iit by talking about how it makes thinngs harder when you have a confrotational relationship w-the media. It wa sTorts at his worst & it is also uneccesary.
BTW good post. I think it was time for Torts to go however, all these people celebrating will finnd out next year that among somme of Torts faults one of them was not him holding back these players from scoring. A new coach is not going to make them marginally better. Yes Torts had them pllaying too careful however they are what they are. Yes they will score a few more goals without Torts system but it will be offset by the goals they allow by not playing carefully.
@IcyCup Had to go there, didn't you...
@ThrSage @EHBIGAPPLE Hey a big thank you to you for your insights. I really appreciate your comments. I live in Arizona (but born and raised and educated in the Big Apple) and it is difficult to get real insights into the team out here in the desert.
Most people behave in patterns and unfortunately never question how effective their patterns might be over time. I super respect WHAT Torts has accomplished here, but I question HOW he accomplished it. A couple of years ago I realized the way Torts treated the press was indicative of "a locked in pattern of Behavior" that is part of how he relates to most other people......and that was his downfall. He most likely has been that way since he was a kid and has yet to gather enough courage to see how destructive his pattern of behaviors really are.
Got hold of some data that Matthew Barnaby put out on the web. He commented that playing for Torts was not any fun........and that is never good long term. A leader can be tough and demanding and also be fun in the process.
Thanks, again Sage!