As expected, Glen Sather has wasted little time preparing to bring in the next head coach of the New York Rangers after firing John Tortorella two days ago. Recently fired Canucks head coach Alain Vigneault as well as Toronto Marlies head coach Dallas Eakins are the first two the Rangers have been formally linked to.
Rangers granted permission to speak with Dallas Eakins and Alain Vigneault.Eakins in contention in Van, NYR and Edmtn (assoc coach).— Darren Dreger (@DarrenDreger) May 31, 2013
We already did a brief summary of Vigneault and Eakins and what both could bring to the table here. In Vigneault, you're getting a guy who has been through the wringer in Vancouver. He knows what it's like coaching in a large market with pressure. He knows what it's like coaching a team facing adversity and a team making a strong push for the Stanley Cup. As miserable as the Rangers were offensively, the Canucks have been among the best in the NHL in that department. While of course a lot of that can be attributed to having the likes of the Sedin brothers, Kesler, Edler, and a generally great offensive team, Vingeault has to receive some of the credit. His biggest downfall, arguably, was his handling of the Luongo/Schneider situation. Unlike in Vancouver, there is absolutely no doubt as to who is not only our starting goaltender but who is the backbone of this team, so perhaps freeing him from that chronic problem could be the difference for him.
In Eakins, you're getting a guy who is viewed in the hockey world as the highest rising head coaching prospect not already in the NHL. He has helped turn around Toronto by developing their young talent with the Marlies and is well liked by players. The concern is the experience. Coaching young prospects and the Kris Newbury's of the world in an environment where development is prioritized over actual wins is a very different thing from handling a group of NHL regulars and stars, most of whom have egos to varying degrees, and making that group a Stanley Cup winner. Of course, coaches with similar (lack of) experience have taken the reigns and gotten the job done before; Dan Bylsma, for instance. Still, while taking charge of an Original Six team that is a realistic Stanley Cup threat immediately is a very tempting possibility, one has to wonder if joining a rebuilding team or a team as an assistant coach is more intermediate step and would benefit him long-term.
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I like AV as a top candidate .Can open up the offense. I feel like it would be a good move. and if he blows, fire him. Not like you HAVE to keep coaches for certain periods of time.
I like AV, to me if the Rangers could get a some more offense and puck posession which has not been talked about as much. It could help take pressure off the defense and Hank. Since the opposition will have less opportunities to score.
... on the other hand, Vigneault is a guy that hasn't won anything. Looking back on his coaching career, he's always been knocked out by the second round if his team made the playoffs. Torts had a cup. Maybe Vigneault is due .........
I'm definitely not opposed to either of these guys coaching our team. the first round exits with vigneault are troublesome, but we use needing a change of scenery as a reason for players doing better after getting moved, so why not with coaches?
I just read that ruff is the odds makers favorite. I just have a bad feeling about him. I'm probably wrong but I'm just not sold.
Don't forget there will be coaches sending in their applications now, so there'll be more coaches that the Rangers will be talking with for sure.
Nothing earth-shattering, but McColgan and Ceresnak are re-entering the draft. I'm a bit surprised about Ceresnak given the lack of D depth, but I guess there are probably better options available.
I like the idea of going for an offensive-minded coach. I like to think we have a pretty solid D core, especially if Staal can come back and play a good season. I realize the game plan would change and that would effect the D as well. It's not like the D can keep on doing what they were doing under Torts and the new coach will just work on getting the fwds to produce, it will take a team effort. I just think the team has a good shot at remaining defensively sound in the right offensive system. We've got the guys to do it.
Alain Vigneault could be good coach for us. I wouldn't mind having Ken Gernander as asisstant coach.
I think they need new blood with charisma behind the bench, so Eakins would be my choice. Vigneault did very little with a lot of talent in Vancouver and disappointed every year. We don't need a coach who's greatest achievement is on the losing end of the handshake line every spring.
I like the idea of signing both. With the amount of young kids we have on the team and coming up, it would be great to have Eakins as the coach in waiting.
if we get alain I will never spell his name right. holy crap. it's a wonder he ever learned how to spell that thing. he must have failed kindergarten like 3 times just because he couldn't figure his name out.
@ThrSage high octane offense with defensive responsibility. He's a very strategy based coach, he's definitely one of the smarter in the league, he can out coach 75-90% of the coaches in the league any given night. His game isn't particularly griniding or physical however but I attribute that to the Nucks not having many physical players really. If AV comes in, we can score 240+ in a season most likely, with less than 200 going in our net.
@AG_Blue He lost in the finals 2 years ago with a sieve as a goaltender
@AG_Blue other than Torts winning a cup with a stacked top to bottom Tampa team where has he gone in the playoffs?
@AG_Blue His team was one win away from winning the Stanley Cup
I think it's kind of hard to tell how it will work with a team and a coach. I do like Vigneault's potential offense upside and the fact that he has worked in a big hockey town under pressure to win. The pair of these guys is an interesting prospect too, but who's to say they can even work together. We just don't have much to go on here. You kind of know what you know about them and make your best judgment. It's hard to believe the first round exits are all Vigneault's fault, and it strikes me as unlikely that that is a trait he would carry over to another team, but I'm just as speculative as the next guy.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG he's a not as good version of Torts, would be a HUGE mistake hiring him.
@gravey94 if you think about it we really aren't that thin. In the wings we have Allen, Skjei, McIlrath, Hughes, Andersson, Noreau (who I'm a big fan of) and our core is really young. I'm not worried really.
Eakins would not take an assistant couching job and if the Fenchman get the job, he would be a big flop in the playoffs just like in Vancouver. Doug Weight would be a better option with Paul Mourice and a powerplay specialist as assistants.
he's french-canadian ... he never had difficulty with the name
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG We could just call him Viggy.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG that's a great idea but I doubt Eakins takes an assistant coach role.
that'd be exciting
i don't like the Ruff vibe either ... great coach, in his way, but not for us