The Boston Bruins advance to the Eastern Conference Finals with a 3-1 win over the New York Rangers taking the series four games to one. For a box score, click here.
Excellent first 20 minutes and 1-0 lead at the break was a terrible, awful tease for the final 40 minutes of play to come. Second and third periods chock full of defensive mistakes, bad breakouts and uninspired play. No desperation, no heart, no will to send this game back to NY for Game 6.
If the Rangers are still playing this late into calendar year next year, someone have the NHL not to schedule a game for May 25th. Armageddon day for two straight years.
Ironic that the final and only goal today came on the power play....
Those two neutral zone turnovers by Hamrlik are likely going to be the last time he plays professional North American hockey.
Say what you want about Del Zotto as well, he's been brutal for the better part of two months. "Giveaway by Del Zotto" was probably said more than "SAVE BY LUNDQVIST" today.... ok, not really... but close.
The name 'Torey Krug' is going to haunt me this summer. Primary reason this series only went 5 games. That roster spot once belonged to Wade Redden...
Again, I'm going to criticize Callahan for not stepping up when his team needed him the most. The Captain's third period breakaway to tie the game could've erased a lot of doubts. Instead, it was the final decent scoring chance the Rangers had.
Tortorella declined a second intermission interview with NBC. Whatever he said to his team before the third period fell on deaf ears. Concerning to say the least...
A lot of decisions and question marks heading into the offseason that will be heavily discussed. McDonagh, Stepan are getting raises, questions about Staal's long term health and if he'll even be ready for camp. The curious case of Brad Richards and his potential buyout. Tortorella will be starting the 2013-14 season on the hot seat, what of Mike Sullivan, whose time directing the Ranger power play to the bottom of the Hudson River over the last 3+ seasons can easily be scapegoated and handed his pinkslip in the coming days.
Still, a couple positives heading into next season, namely full seasons from Brassard and Moore. Kreider finished his up and down season on a high note. Zuccarello coming over from Russia and proving immediately that he belongs. Not all doom and gloom heading into next year which some (including myself) have pegged to be "the year" for the Rangers....
Where were you Staal???
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I was in Boston all weekend, and walked around the heart of it during and after this game with my Hank jersey shirt. Was sure to give every Bruins fan I saw a defiant staredown, and no one really bothered me about it (surprise!). Either way, things still look good for us, guys. With the exception of there being, for the first time, a real possibility of Hank wanting to leave, which oddly feels a lot like the prospect of being broken up with.
YOU ARE THE ONE HANK
PLEASE DON'T LEAVE US
WE NEED YOU
WE'LL GET BETTER WE PROMISE
The more i read about it and look at the numbers, the less i think Richards will be here next year. In fact, at this point I would be shocked if he is not bought out.
Hanks comments :(. I think this should be the first time everyone sees that he is realistically half way out the door. This offseason the Rangers need to make some moves to show Hank that he has to stay. If that means buying out Brad Richards, so be it. This upcoming season the Rangers have to go far in the playoffs and show Hank they are capable of winning in the next 3 years, or he is gone.
Power play has been missing for the past 2yrs. Rangers have the forwards. They are missing a QB. Mark Streit and Jordan Leapold are available thru free agency. They have to clear cap space obviously.DelZ is a turnover waiting to happen. Staal an Sauer are question markss. Thoughts?
Anyone else reading these exit interview quotes on twitter? While guys like Nash and Cally are talking about loving NY and Stepan says he wants to retire a Ranger, Lundqvists response to a question about an extension is "I'll talk to my agent...we'll see..."
NIce job this season Kevin, Adam and Neil!
Someone once said "If it were easy, everyone would do it!" Fitting for the hard work you guys put in, but oddly fitting for the general feeling of being a NYR fan...
On the subject of prospects/rookies possibly coming up next year. I think it is interesting that if you look at the teams that win cups and have success in the playoffs they almost always have at least one or two rookies playing in third or fourth line energy role. Detroit this year is a perfect example with Nyquist and Brunner providing that jump and energy that comes with your first taste of playoffs hockey. Even Boston with Krug or the Rangers last year with Kreider speak to that trend. We clearly were missing that type of energy this year.
With that said Lindberg is the closest to ready after winning the SEL playoff MVP this year. To me Fast is the most interesting though because he brings a lot of what Hagelin does in terms of speed but adds a scoring touch possibly making Hags obsolete. The others that have a chance to make an impact are Miller who could be a great energy 3rd/4th line wing, Hrvik who was a favorite to make the team this year had there not been a lockout, and McIlrath who would add much needed size and physicality on the back end. All of this means nothing though unless Torts gives them the chance to grow and learn on the NHL level which as we have seen with Kreider may not happen.
Switching subjects, I don't think anyone has mentioned that the buyouts teams will make this off season could provide for some intriguing possibilities. Clearly Del Zotto is not capable to running a power play and his skating ability makes him a liability defensively. There will likely be a few buyout players capable of running our pp in James Wisnewski and JM Liles. Wisnewski is the much better option but would cost more although having been bought out both guys would be available at a bargain since they have proven they are not worth the large contracts they previously had. While I am not convinced this would be the answer and I don't want to return to the days of buying the "solution", is it defiantly something for Sather to mull over this off season.
My play for a third line center is package Hags and Del Zotto for Kyle Brodziak out of Minnesota. That team needs depth on offense and defense and that guy was one the best players for the Wild in their series besides Suter.
I also wouldn't mind seeing a guy like Torres (UFA) in a rangers jersey. His series long suspension this year is bull**** and he has the ability to change a game with his physicality. Not to mention the guy can skate and score some big goals. Possibly an alternative to signing Clowe? He will cost half as much, we save a 2nd round pick and he doesnt bring with him any of the injury history.
Random honest question for anybody with some knowledge.
Besides Kreider...How close do you think our prospects are to being ready for a callup?
Miller, Fasth, Lindberg, McIlrath, Skjei, Thomas, etc?
Trade MDZ for picks. Stralman is darn good and when Staal comes back the D should be okay. ZUCC must stay - he is a playmaker and though his size is a liability come playoffs he is still not invisible - regular season he will be invaluable and you need wins to even make playoffs. CLOWE - can NOT commit the money and years that he will demand to a guy who now has a history of head injuries. Remember, with each one the next is easier to get and the last thing the NYR need is to be paying a big lug who can not play like a big lug. HAGS - you keep him as he is one of the few who constantly presses and works the boards (as sad as that is that again one of the smaller Rangers is one of the few who does that). BUT....if these young Rangers (Kreider/Miller) can step up and actually play like that then you have a nice trade piece in Hags. Really...this is all so simple ;)
Thought I would do take or trash section. Let me know why also.
1) Derek Stepan
2) Ryan Mcdonagh
3) Carl Hagelin
4) Mats Zuccarello
5) Steve Eminger
6) Michael Del Zotto
7) Brian Boyle
8) Taylor Pyatt
9) Derrick Dorsett
10) Aaron Asham
Right now don't worry about money or contracts, just who you would like to keep or get rid of and why... Thanks
Is there anyone who ACTUALLY thinks that either Torts or MDZ will not be with the Rangers next fall? Regardless of whether or not you think they should be sent out on a rail, they will both be at camp come September. We should move on to discussing things like what to do about Clowe, Zuke, Hags, etc.
I have no problem with Torts. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses and he certainly could learn to adapt more quickly and be less rigid in his def strategy...BUT (and this is a big but) remember that it is those EXACT traits that also makes him tenacious with his team and rigid in the way that he demands every player be accountable. Do any of you remember when the Rangers were just a bunch of fat, old stars running the show?? Torts is a bulldog and I welcome it. Yes, I get frustrated with him often, but I try to never forget that we got a bulldog because we wanted a bulldog. Instead of kicking him bc he doesn't run after frisbees, we should remember how glad we are that he can guard the house. Plus.....I happen to love the way he treats the media. Look....toughness is not a bad trait to have in your coach.
Report the king asking to be trade to sister rangers aka blue jackets I think if they suck this bad next year he is leaving
Rangers don't win the cup without being able to roll 4 lines up front and 3 lines in back. It is, as everyone is saying, a depth problem. I think Torts is getting it too as he said a few times that he has to roll the lines and he did so at the end - still shocked to see Hammerlick on the ice at all). The problem is that our 4th line was mostly AHL guys. They came out with a lot of fight and adrenaline in game 4 but could not match it in 5. They key is our 4th line cant ve slow if we want them to provide energy. i like Ash for the goals he put in but he just cant catch anyone to bang them anymore. Our defense has been thin all year. We really need solidly. I think getting Moore and healthy Staal goes a long way towards that plus there is some talent in the system that may be ready.
Anyway, looking forward to next year. Will also be fun to see who wins this years "tainted" cup. Just hope someone can take out Pitt.
For those or for that person who knows eerything there is to know about hockey unlike 99.9% of us who know shit according to the great wise one I will name some potential coaching candidates Cary Eaves WHL Stamnpede, Luke Richardson Bighamton Sens, Brad Larson Springfield, Rob Zeller Syracuse, Dallas Eakins Toronto Marlies. The current coach isn't going anywhere but these guys could be candidates in the future.
@tygalpin we're not all drunk meatheads looking to cave in the skulls of opposing fans... that's primarily why the Garden isn't in South Boston, after all...
@cb1 been saying that for weeks... also that injury asterisk on the buyout could hamper the Rangers for years, and force Hank to leave
I see his comments as nothing more then posturing & him playing the begotiating game. Josh...I will bet a six pack of beer he re-signs. I will bet u another 6-pack that if Im wrong he will not sign w-Pens. That is as long as ur over 21 if u r under 21 it will have to be a 6-pack of Red Bull or Soda or whatever u young guys drink.
@Josh6 I've been saying this ever since the end of the season when Hank commented after a regular season loss that he can't score goals! That comment was a direct remark to the players are playing and the coaches are coaching. Hank is way too good finish out his career w/ only an Eastern Conference final appearance. If there is one thing we have seen in the NHL is that as players get older n the window to win a cup gets smaller, players are willing to leave their home for a chance to finally win....a la Ray Bourque. Teams will be drooling for hank esp the Penguins. Let's pray that the Dolans and Sather don't screw this up. Fire Sullivan, drop Richards, make the necessary adjustments for this team and prove to Hank he can retire his jersey to the rafters of MSG knowing he hoisted the Cup above his head.
@johnnyb3910 ...ouch, my heart. ;~;
I would love to get Torres. He can skate and is a devastating hitter. He's the kind of guy, when he's on the ice, you're opponent is thinking about him. He can strike fear into an opponent.
Agree with a lot of what you said, but I think you are seriously undervaluing Hagelin. It's not just his speed that makes him good. Despite his size he's among the 2 or 3 best along the baords that we have and his ability to change direction and lose a check may go unnoticed because we have one of the worst TV analysts in the league. Hags straight up for Bridziak would be a steal for Minny. He had all of 12 points this season, is 29 years old and has one season of 40 points in 6 full NHL seasons. Awful idea.
If Marik Hrivik is healthy, he'll be in the mix for a roster spot as well. I can see Thomas being one of those players who blossoms after he gets away from the Rangers - I don't think he'll ever fit into a Tortorella system.
Biggest isssue as I see it is lack of depth on defense (which is why we end up with Hmrlik, Gilroy, etc)
@Chris24 Miller and Lindberg have a chance to make it out of camp this year. Fasth needs one more year, as does Thomas. McIlrath can definitely be a dependable call up, but I don't think he leaves the AHL just yet. Skjei is a ways away.
@Chris24 Miller makes the team out of camp next year. Don't know about Lindberg, haven't seen him, same goes for Fast. McIlrath starts in AHL, but gets a call up at some point. Same for Thomas, although I don't think he will ever be a full-time NHLer. Skjei is nowhere close.
@jmacwilli a nice trade piece in Hags, oook.. what would you get with trading Hags? picks?
Take #1, 2, 3, 5 and either 7 or 9. Trash the rest. Why - the takes add value (yes, hard as it is to say, Boyle would be valuable as a 4th line center and performs better in playoffs). Dorsett may be valuable but have seen enough to also have doubts.
Why dump the rest - if you need to ask, you're not watching the games.
@Josh6 1 and 2 both need to be resigned, obviously, and i agree with cb1, none of these 2 year hold over contracts. These guys are going to pan out, McD especially. Lets keep them here for a while.
I think they have to pick 3 or 4, not both. We lacked size against Boston. Unless were changing to a more wide-open philosophy, then you can't have a plethora of 5-footers on your roster.
I like Eminger as a solid repalcement6/7 defenseman.
MDZ, can't be gone soon enough. He's had enough time to develop, but he's nowhere close to meeting expectations. He makes terrible decisions with the puck, the physical side of him game leaves much to be desired, and he seems to have his gaffes at the most inopportune times.
Keep Boyle and Dorsett, lose Pyatt and Asham.
I'm surprised you don't have Richards on here. Here's my really quick reason for keeping him: Budgeting. Go look at CapGeek and check out how many players have contracts ending after the 13-14 season. I'm not totally on top of the CBA and the cap hit for buyouts, but if they buy out Richards now there will pressure to spend what they can this summer. I say keep him and wait to see if you need that space. If the best option is to buy out Richards to give more money to Hank, then do it. But McD and Step can be resigned this summer without needing the money.
you can't leave $ out of the equation, so...
1) Derek Stepan - I hope we forgo the 2-year bridge contract and lock him up for 28M over 7 years. It will be a bargain in the long run.
2) Ryan Mcdonagh - ditto for Mac. Long term deal.
3) Carl Hagelin - i'd like to see Hags get resigned at 3.4M over 2 years
4) Mats Zuccarello - I'm ok with giving Zuke 2.4M over 2 years. Even if he doesn't work out, he's a tradeable asset.
5) Steve Eminger - at 750k, he's a valuable 6th/7th D.
6) Michael Del Zotto - Unlike most of you, I'm not ready to pull the plug on MDZ yet. Even if he has another inconsistent year, he won't really lose much in terms of trade value if it comes to that.
7) Brian Boyle - His 20 goal season was a fluke, but he's still a solid bottom-6 center in my eyes. Wins faceoffs, good on PK, good forecheker.
8) Taylor Pyatt - trade him for a 3rd rounder? no reason he takes a roster spot over JT Miller next year. If the only thing you can say about a player is "he's good along the boards" than he's not worth keeping. Too slow to be effective on the forecheck or PK, isn't physical/mean enough.
9) Derrick Dorsett - I am looking forward to what he can do next year after a full camp. I think he could be our replacement for Prust.
10) Aaron Asham - Nope. No room for him on the 4th line with Dorsett.
Powe - Let him try and earn a spot in camp. Doesn't cost too much, can forecheck, kill penalties. Insurance if Lindberg, Thomas, Miller, etc don't look good in camp.
Clowe - Would love to have him at the right price. This is the biggest question mark to me. I have a feeling we're going to over pay him and end up losing Zuke and/or Hags as a cap casualty.
Richards - I think he stays, but if he doesn't return to form he gets bought out at the end of next year.
@Josh6 1. Keep
2. KEEP KEEP KEEP
3. I'm not as high on him as others are. Especially when he's put on the first line. He has great speed but really nothing else to his game. Third line player and nothing more.
4. I'm higher on Zucc then some other people. Yes he is small, but he offers a lot of playmaking ability that this team sorely lacks. I could be wrong but if I remember correctly he was on the ice for every powerplay goal the Rangers had this postseason.
5. His play got a lot better as the season went on and Torts seemed to trust him a lot more (aside from the mistake in game 3 against the Caps). I would definitely resign him he's a great fit as an extra d man if Mcilrath comes up next year especially when someone gets hurt.
6. Trade him for draft picks especially with this very strong draft. Best thing for him and the team is for him to get traded.
7. Keep him. A lot of commenters don't like him but he offers a lot of things that are invaluable that people dont understand. He is our best facceoff guy, so much so that Torts would put him out there just take face-offs for Stepan then come off the ice. He canplay on the pk and was the reason for the only two pp goals the Rangers had this series. He is a perfect 4th line center.
8. See ya
9. Would like to bring back as a fourth line player just has to cut the stupid penalties.
10. Move on
@cb1 I think MDZ gets moved at the trade deadline most likely, for a dman with a big shot or draft picks. Or he gets moved this offseason. Maybe a guy like sheldon souray for DZ, that just clear speculation and he is probably too much, but something like that
Torts, no. MDZ, yes I think there is a possibility he's gone over the summer depending upon how the Rangers view the draft and if they think they can get value by trading him. I still think he starts with the Rangers is Sept., but I would not be shocked to see them deal him in the summer.
@greggray24 Depth is key for sure, but your best players have to play their best. Ours did not.
I'm hoping for Detroit. hat town could use a boost.
@Muggs62 Candidates for what, Jim Ramsay's job? This team has made it to the conference finals an semis the past 2 years and you want to replace the coach with guys who have never even sniffed coaching an NHL team before. If that's the best you got, then Torts will be Rangers coach for life!
U said it not me ur part of those that no shit about hockey. Knowing is 1/2 the battle though so ur almost there. Good job googling to come up w-names that u know shit about.
BTW this is my last response to u. I can't waste my time arguing w-guys like you.
Would love Streit on a short term deal don't know enuff about Leopold, however we r sorely in need of a PP QB
@sureshore Overall I like Hags but if the team is to get better offensively than he would be the perfect guy to move because his value currently is the highest it is going to get. Playing on the first two lines (which he does not belong) gives him better numbers than he will get when/if he is put in his natural role as a good third liner. I would just rather get a piece we desperately need, a big third line center who can win faceoffs, skate, and play two ways. If not Brodziak than we need a guy like him, Sean Mathias (FLA), in order to compete against teams like Boston in the future. As fans we hate to see young home grown guys shipped off but if you recall '94 thats sometimes what it takes to jump to the next level (Tony Amonte).
@sureshore Don't forget Prust was a dumpee from the West Coast and Torts developed him into a 10M man for Montreal!
@Josh6 also, also:
@ThrSage Most of us look at this great game of Hockey from a pure tactical approach to the game. There is nothing wrong with that approach and it certainly brings insight to the game and to the performance of our team. I think everybody here brings a perspective that is valuable.
Few of us choose to approach our GREAT game from a strategic approach , different from the tactical approach, The strategic approach invites us all to assess the Big Picture of a situation. It invites us to ask what are all the ramifications of a particular solution........how will a change affect the defense.....how will a change effect the offense......the energy level of the team.....will it yield short term value and eventually bring a long term negative result etc., etc etc.
I know you think this way and I have told you many times how I appreciate your perspective! I have been responding to these Posts for a very short time and there is one glaring truth, a truth that is super powerful in my book....WE ALL WANT THE RANGERS TO WIN...... AND I THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR. POWERFUL PERSPECTIVE. I KNOW ALL OF YOU ARE TERRIFIC AND THAT YOU BRING THE BEST OF YOUR INTENTIONS IN YOUR RESPONSES. WE ARE ALL UNITED IN OUR PASSIONATE DESIRE TO BRING THE CUP BACK TO THE BIG APPLE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO ME!
I just read ur post, well at least 1/2 of it caus as usual its incoherent. Like most people on this blog I usually don't read ur posts. U can tell by how nobody ever responds to u. I now know why u responded. I wasn't even refering to u OMG its hilarious how defensive U R kinda of explains alot. U must be told often u don't know much. Sorry to hear that. Like I said knowing is 1/2 the battle. Keep at it soneday u will know as much as me ....until then dismissed.
@clarkeybabes @cb1 @Josh6 i don't know, they did give Staal a long term deal when his EL contract was up, so there is some precedent for something other than the 2-year bridge deal that the other guys (cally, dubi, mdz) got. i think it's worth it to lock Step and Mac up, even if it means losing Richards or Clowe.