With John Tortorella being fired there's been a lot of posting of his top 10 media outbursts, but for me I'd rather post this video which shows how much the success of the Rangers organization meant to him...
...listen, I don't have my head in the sand when it comes to Tortorella's shortcomings. The power play was abysmal, his failure to adapt his system to the Rangers new personnel was the main reason for the team's roller coaster season and he creates his own problems with the media with his disrespectful attitude. But I truly felt the guy cared about the long term success of the franchise and had a plan in place to turn the Rangers into a perennial Stanley Cup contender by building from within. The first wave of that process was creating a core of home grown talent (ie Callahan, Dubinsky, Girardi, Lundqvist), developing youngsters like Stepan, McDonagh, Del Zotto and Hagelin while filling in the holes through free agency with talented, character veterans. With that now in place, the next wave of young players were on their way in the form of Kreider, Miller, Thomas and McIlrath to add much needed depth and continue the building process. With Torts now gone, does that process continue or will the next head coach be allowed to implement their own master plan? I'd really like to know, because I felt Torts organizational building strategy was perfect, but it was his inability to adapt to the strengths of his players that was the problem.
...i also have to wonder if Sather, who could also find himself on the hot seat soon, might start to become impatient if Kreider has another up and down season and McIrath isn't ready to make the jump the NHL. In my opinion it would be devastating if Sather started destroying what Tortorella implemented for a win now mentality to save his own job. See pre-lockout Sather.
Man, everything that's coming out now about Torts not adapting, short-sightedness, players relationships etc. I picked up very early this season and was very quick to post it on this blog. Most here said I was wrong, though a few agreed with me, or at least considered it (and though others did pick up on a few facets of the problems I was the first I know about to get the big picture of what was happening with our coaching problems and the locker room and lay it all out in writing here - many times). I'm no expert on this game and there is a huge gap in what I know, I'm not in that locker room and some of it will never come out but I really picked up on all this stuff and ranted my ass off about it. It was so frustrating to see it all go down and ruin this season when I could clearly see the reasons why, and knew that just some attitudinal adjustments from our coach would have changed everything. DAMN! Glimmers of hope came in when Torts finally reunited his only line that showed signs of life offensively, then again when the new guys came in but his stubborn ass ruined it for all of us this yezr. What a DAMN SHAME, because he is otherwise an EXCELLENT COACH and he brought us back to repectability during his tenure here for the very reasons you mentioned Kevin. Very insightful article! I really hope they find us a coach now who will continue his work here, build on his defense first system but will take it to the next level by being adaptable, creative with some offensive freedom, and not just play dead in front of the goalie but challenge up high and collapse down low. We are not an offensive powerhouse now so that would be a winning formula for us. I hope we can learn from Torts - both his strengths and shortcomings and get over that hump and take the prize. LGR
Obviously an early exit from the playoffs is unacceptable for a team with this much "talent".Its hard to lay all the blame on Torts though. He proved successful last season. His only true coaching deficit was the atrocious power play and perhaps that was Sully's cross to bear. As far as his surly nature, that is not a team's excuse to play like shit and without heart as professionals. You don't need to be married to the man, just work for himand most importantly WORK for the fans paying your friggin salaries. I was willing to give him the first half of a real season to see if he could turn around this slumping team. But as soon as his derogatory words regarding Hagelin were released, his release was inevitable in my opinion.
I think one of the problems for Cally this year was that he is a 3rd line player. Play him on the PK and even the PP, but he is not a second line player... that just is not him. He is a perfect third line player, I hope next year they settle him back into that role. Then we can put together a solid second line...
I don't get this post. Torts is supposed to get credit for caring about the Rangers? Every single person on this blog cares about the Rangers and none of us deserve to be coach. That's setting the bar very low.
It's pretty obvious that the guy was on cloud 9. He was seeing a game in a way that no one else on earth was seeing it and it wasn't leading to results. He was pretty much the only guy who couldn't figure out that McD and Stralman deserved a shot on the PP. He was definitely the only one who thought Girardi was the Rangers best PP point man. He was the only guy who thought playing your 4th line 6-8 minutes a game was a winning approach. He was the only one who thought cutting down to 5 D-men in the playoffs last year was the right call. He was the only guy who thought that talking smack about his players publicly would be good motivation. And he sure as hell is the only guy on earth who thought that being disrespectful to Sam Rosen - for doing his job - was remotely OK.
Whether the players loved or hated him, it's clear that they lost respect for him. They didn't think they were in good hands, because they weren't.
Being passionate is not an excuse for being bad at your job, especially at this level.
Well said on Torts Kevin. You hit all the right spots. The one thing I disagree on & maybe its me & I am wrong but I keep hearing how Torts didn't adapt to the new talent on his roster. Where what talent is everyone refering too? Hags? I see him as a3rd line player whose ceiling is maybe a 2nd line player. Cally? He got more ice time & leeway then anyone. Zucc? Ok maybe him but he got a regular shift, he just couldn't score? Brassard? He got a regular shift an was a point per game player under Torts which was a major improvement? Nash? Again got a regular shift & pretty much never benched. Richards? We all know he had free reign. Stepan? Again regular shift point per game player pretty never benched. Boyle AshamPyatt or Newberry? Ok u can all stop laughing about me even suggesting he heldback their "talent". Moore or MDZ? On Moore he got better under Torts tHEN he was in CBJ. MDZ was terrible this year but OK maybe he played afraid under Torts so he got caught in between alot, but is he so talented that a new coach will give him free reign & he will turn into Leetch? I doubt it. That leaves Kredier who should have been given a regular shift so maybe he would have chipped in a few more goals but he was awful in Hartford & was awful defensivly. Miller? He got a regular shift for much linger then he deserved & in 20-games he scored 2-goals!!!! Plus Torts lived w-his mistakes even when instead of making the simple play & chipping it out he tried to stick handle thru 3-guys & turned it over, which is what the scouting reports pre-draft said about him. So yes we will score a few more goals next year cause the next coach won't be as demanding about dumping it in. We also lose alot more games 4-3 then win 2-1. Thats why Torts had them playing so safe. He knew this team could not win any other way. The upside is now people will stop deluding themselves into thinking that if Torts just opened it up we would win 4-2 w-Hank making 50-saves a game. It doesn't work that way. Now that Torts is gone all the complaints about him holding back all this talent will now focus on Sather & demand he get fired cause all that "talent" is really not that talented....lol
I believe Torts had to go. He was too disliked by too many people from the media to the fans to most of the organization to the league. his insistence on being a jack ass every chance he got created a toxic atmosphere where he left himself very little margin for error. This team was never winning a Cup as currently constructed. Now people will see it let the fire Sather chants commence. Should start sometime after the 1st prolonged losing strwak. Right after all of the stories of how rejevunated under their new coach & playing loose wears off & they start losing 5-2 & everyone realizes even though Torts is gone they still can't score.
mike babcock was brought up below. in my opinion I thinks he's the best coach in the league. unfortunately he's locked up until 2014-15. I wish we could pry him away somehow.
In all honesty though, you give me a blackboard in front of the Rangers team and i could have run a better PP than the one I saw all season. Sather if you are listening gimme a shot :)
I still think Torts was a good coach, but if the reports were correct and there were multiple Rangers' players that stopped responding to him then there was no choice but to let him go. I will miss him and I hope the next coach is not a "player's coach" because those guys rarely win ANYTHING! As far as Sather "saving his job" I don't think that even remotely factors into anything. He's probably on his last legs anyway and I would be shocked if he didn't retire in a year or 2. I'm sure he wants a Cup before then, but he's not going to blow up the future for 1 shot.
BTW, now that the Wings blew a 3-1 series lead, what are the chance that he'll opt out and of his contract and consider the Rangers?
@dsclaw88 You mean besides the normal terrible grammar and spelling errors?
@Josh6 On a championship team he is your 3rd liner - agreed. that is not a criticism. In the old format 3rd line is your checking line but can include offense. this guy is a 25 goal man who plays hard at all ends. Great player but not a prolific scorer. We'll see...
@PharmerBern He was the one who guided the Rangers to the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time since 1997.
@PharmerBern You know these are all good points and I've been ranting about our coach all year but I have to say that he really helped build this team back to respectability (before this season) since he got here and without that egotistical arrogance he could be an excellent coach. that big ego gets in the way and creates the glaring errors of judgments you so aptly state here. It's just a damn shame. You can check my comments on this blog above.
@PharmerBern everything you said is dead on regarding this year. But what about last year? That team totally overachieved and Torts had A LOT to do with it. i think he deserves credit, at least, for that.
But you're right. Caring isn't enough. And this year he didn't adapt his philosophy/strategy to fit his lineup. And it looked like he wasn't going to budge moving forward.
@AnnoyingJoe i can only hope UPWARDS
@AnnoyingJoe Agreed. Wonder how the players feel...
@ThrSage Great comments on all "this talent that Torts failed to unleash." I can't wait for our new coach to transform our 4th, 5th and 6th line players into twenty goal scorers. Most people here got to get a grip on talent evaluation and come to terms with the fact that the Rangers do not have a great deal of offensive talent and that the only way for any team to win the Cup is with a great goalie and a defense first team.
People.....People.......People.........Watch other playoffs series and tell me what teams are winning and playing a free flowing offense first system.? All coaches know in this CAP era defense first wins Championships. Going back twenty years ago (maybe even 30 years) The Pens with all their fire power had to learn defense first in order to win their Cups. That will be the challenge for the Pens again this year if they want to get back to The finals. Notice the struggle The high flying Hawks had with the Wings. Their Captain admitted that it took the team a while before they learned to play defense first to get past The Wings
Torts was fired due to negative organizational issues which he created with his abrasive personality. I hope we see Ruff. He coaches the same system but has relationship skills that kept in place for years in Buffalo and in addition, he put in three good years as part of our defense.
@ThrSage I think the adaptability issues were more about losing their grittiness and adding Nash to the mix giving us 2 potential 40 goal scorers instead of one but losing the grindrs. Adding to that the development of younger players with some offensive capabilities like Stephan, and (theoretically) Hags, Cally and Kreids. He tried to use the gritty blue collar system this year after losing 2/3s of his blue collar players and treated them like the same offensively inept team of last season when they had gained in that department. I saw the writing on the wall very early, even before the season began and expected Torts to make the adjustments but instead he played exactly the same way without regard to his changed team - then 2/3 of the way into the season he goes; duh - I underestimated the impact of losing those players - WTF??? then he still played the same way. The only time we looked good all season was when the new guys came in before they got stifled by Torts and we got 3 out of 4 points against probably the best team in the NHL. I'm sorry but our coach - an NHL coach needs to be smarter than me. It really frustrated me this year seeing this all go down when it did not have to. Having said all this I agree with his accomplishments here and truly believe Torts has the makings of an excellent coach. He brought us back to being respectable as a team and at his best he gets the most out of his players but he does not adapt, and he can play his system (though I'd like to see them challenge up high and collapse down low rather than play dead in front of the goalie every time the puck is in their end) and still come up with a better offensive and forecheck scheme. We are not inept offensively. We just have not seen what our boys can do because our system stifles them. This is my HO.
@shishya100 What did Coughlin learn? Forgive me for my lack of Giants knowledge.
@shishya100 Summed up in a sentence. Yep.
I also thought of having Babcock as coach.
@gravey94 what if the guys that gave him a bad report were Bickel, Gilroy, Haley, Asham and Pyatt lol no way of knowing
@gravey94 You mean Babcock? No chance. But one can dream, no? One of the best coaches in the league.
@greggray24 I want to see a third line of Callahan-Brassard/Lindberg/Boyle-Clowe
Second line - Hagelin(if we keep him)-Brassard/Lindberg-Ryder (or whomever we sign).
@greggray24 @AnnoyingJoe relieved, I'm sure. With Renney and Torts, there was a sense that these team was moving forward and with a purpose. moving away from signing over-the-hill stars and throwing money at ex-devils. This year was a real step back and I have the sinking feeling that signing Nash has something to do with it. I hope I'm wrong and that they won't be looking to buy him out in two years.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG put me down for $10 million. ;)
Agree. I think Cally, Miller, Hags would be a great 3ed line. Need to fill up the top 6 though we may not be deep enough.
@greggray24 Stepan is our first line center though as of now... hopefully with Kreider and Nash
@greggray24 as you can see it is going to be interesting to see how our centers are aligned 2-4 (also Miller should be in that conversation unless he gets a wing). I definitely think Lindberg gets an opportunity, but Brassard may have earned the second line center role
@Josh6 Put me down for $10 million.