Update, 4:40 p.m.:
Got to wonder if the gruesome injury Callahan sustained back in January in his fight with Max Talbot was the cause....
...guess it was more than just a shoulder subluxation. Not sure if this is when the injury occurred but if he basically played the entire season with a torn labrum...wow, just wow.
The Rangers have announced that both Ryan Callahan and Carl Hagelin underwent successful surgeries to repair torn labrums in their left shoulders.
Jim Cerny says that the recovery time will likely be 4-5 months and that they'll likely miss training camp and possibly start of next season. This is the same surgery Marian Gaborik had and his return time was more like six months.
Hagelin is an RFA.
...i know Rangers fans want everyone on the team to be exactly like Callahan, but this isn't what we meant.
...i guess we all know why Hagelin stunk on the power play this year. Wonder how this will affect his contract negotiations.
...should be some interesting head coach interviews now. Sather: "Oh by the way, our heart and soul captain along with a rising young player will miss all of camp and maybe the beginning of the season. So you interested?"
...in all seriousness, we all saw how Gaborik struggled this season after coming off of the exact same surgery so this isn't what Rangers fans probably want to hear coming on the heels of the disappointing loss to the Bruins.
I am going to be very honest, and most people are probably going to argue it, but a Messier, Gretzky and Leetch coaching staff would be stacked!!!
Subluxation my ass! I was suspicious as soon as I heard that! This isn't a goddam chiropractors office! Of course that's when he tore it - what a warrior!!! 3 of those in 2 years. Message? Get some toughness over here. Stick up for one another. Other teams need to know that if you hit our guys hard, legal or otherwise you're gonna get a hurting!!!
It's a long season, so this isn't overwhelming.Wish Cally and Hags a speedy recovery and I'm sure they'll be back to normal health when it matters in the regular season.If they are out for a short while it gives the upcoming prospects and rookies a chance to get ice time and experience.Both these guys will have no problem with any new coach Rangers hire, so its not too big a deal missing camp.Excited about next year! (unless they pick some crazy choice for coach- Gretzky or Messier? Give me a break.)
Adapting to a new system is so overrated. Moore, Clowe and Brassard had no trouble nor do the rentals that teams pick up at the deadline. Hockey doesn't require learning a playbook.
no two cartilage tears are the same, so what pain these guys were playing through and how much it affected their game is unknown. as is their recovery time and long-term prognosis.
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but to me there's a difference between playing hurt to inspire your team and playing hurt to the detriment if your team. IF Cally was truly hurt early in the season, it would have made a lot mor sense for him to get it taken care of then rather than playing at 50% effectiveness. I'm not questioning his heart at all, but sometime you just gotta bite the bullet and give other guys a chance to pick you up. The whole playing through pain thing is fine, as long as it's not putting your team at a disadvantage.
5:58PM Nick Kypreos tweets that the Rangers job opening is intriguing to Gretzky.
If Gretzky gets the job... shoot me now
I understood why Torts had to go, but now I'm glad he's gone. For him to call out Hagelin while he's playing with a torn labrum is inexcusable.
4:35PM: Katie Strang tweets that Hagelin and Callahan are likely to start training camp on the ice, but not taking contact.
More of an update... slight silver lining i guess
@craig_atherton I am more concerned about him missing time next year. For a new coach and system, it is essential to have all your players on the ice for training camp and the start of the season... this is awful news...
Also, I would be pretty surprised, but if the coach likes someone (Mac, Stepan, Girardi, Staal) don't be shocked if he throws one of them the C. Crazier things have happened....
As if I was not worried enough about next year already... this is an awful start. Only positive, now Lindberg definitely gets a chance and Fast may as well.
Also, for you Hagelin lovers out there this may be a big nail in his coffin with the New York Rangers. I dont know if we can afford to give him anymore than 2 million a year if he is out the first month of the season... maybe we get him even cheaper now, but i doubt it. His rights could be traded for draft picks/assets. Or how about this, trade Hagelin's rights for rights with Brendan Morrow and Pitts 3rd rounder... that could be interesting.
i gotta think that Gabby's struggles this year had more to do w/ his relationship w/ Torts than his shoulder. Look at how well he played after the trade to Columbus. I'm not worried about Hags or Cally. Everyone has different recovery times and knowing Cally especially, he'll b back on the ice good as new and hopefully the same for Hags
Sort of puts all the criticism of Callahans play into perspective, theres a good chance this started with the Talbot scuffle early in the season
Hagelin is amazing ! orts is an idiot for bashing him on the air like that during that press conference !
@Josh6 Yea, totally! A combined coaching record of 143-61 over 4 years and not even a sniff of the playoffs. Ooooo, sign me up for that!
@gravey94 Agreed. Perfect example was when Jagr played against the Devils in the 2006 playoffs after dislocating his shoulder in game 1. inspirational, sure. But beneficial? Not at all as it was clear to everyone that he should not be playing.
@Josh6 And then there's this. No wonder Hank wants to wait awhile before signing a long term deal.
@queensbee ok. so. what are we drinking?
@queensbee you. are. awesome.
That makes sense josj6, Trade away a young rising star for an aging over the hill player.That would be the dumbest trade the Rangers could make. You need to have pations man,
@Josh6 Morrow's a UFA after this season. And please don't trade him to a division rival....
@spin0rama Just posted video of this.
@calithirteen if by well you mean Gaborik played how he usually played (coasts around the ice looking for someone to get him the puck) then yeah he played well.
@AnnoyingJoe Prosecco. It's never not a good time for a glass (or 3) of bubbly.
@PenaltySh0t @calithirteen Granted he sucked this season (for whatever reasons), and he's less physical and too easily injured but this is a ridiculous comment. Plenty of Gab's goals came from those dirty places around the net. Lot's of rebounds in the trenches, garbage goals and even a few where he crossed checked defenders to one time a pass from behind the net. This is a guy who has both talent and guile (which is probably why he didn't get on with our no strategy, dump, run and collapse coach) 40+ goals 2 seasons without a play making center. Review his goals and then tell me he just "coasts around the ice hoping for a pass" or is strictly a perimeter player. It;s a shame when people who call themselves hockey fans can't even appreciate what we had here for 3 seasons.