...not going to see Lundqvist more disgusted or frustrated than that folks. He's already called his teammates out twice with no results, so I'm pretty sure he's ready to just throw his hands up at this point.
...wonder if he's called a players only meeting to chew these guys out yet. Not sure it would work with this group, who don't seem capable of emotion.
...i've been holding out hope this entire time that the Rangers will eventually figure it out, but if they don't grind out a win in Montreal tomorrow night, I'll really be concerned for the first time that they won't qualify for the postseason.
Things are rough, but what else is there to do other than chill out and see how it goes? I'd rather things not go as expected in a lockout-shortened season than a full regular season, for starters. Not to mention, so many teams are primed to tear it up in the playoffs, even IF we start stringing wins together in our last 15, the outlook still is not that great. Let's all just chill and see. Things can only get better with an off season with our team hopefully still in tact (if we can pick up some good role players though, that's nice), a full training camp, and a full season.
I'm at a loss of words. This team plays with no energy. Nobody has shown any kind of passion this year. Its so frustrating to watch this team right now. They need to find some jam ASAP.
Goddamn, gravey is the only one here with some goddamn sense. Love your comments, man! At least someone in New York has some grasp of the meaning of "long-term," as in, our team is going to be competitive in the long-term. This season has been...weird.
Seriously, so many of you guys (slapshot, I'm looking at you), buy into these ridiculous story lines that the media belches out. YOU ARE NOT A PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY PLAYER. OR A GM. Stop speaking in ridiculous platitudes... "no effort tonight..." "...they're just not trying. guys, I would be trying SO MUCH HARDER right now if I was being payed $12 mil." You, me, and everyone else on this blog does not know what happens in an NHL locker room. This team's struggles aren't as simple as "Richards sucks." Get your heads out of your asses.
Kevin, you have a great blog, and I've had a lot of good discussions on here, but... you are spoon-fed whatever the sportswriters are saying on this copy-paste blog of yours. I wouldn't dare to call you a fairweather fan, because I know how long this blog has been up and I know you're a true fan, but it would be nice to see a post that has some actual statistics and substance to it rather than reiterations of bullshit sportscaster rhetoric.
@TheNYRBlog yeah, well, that wasn't exactly great goaltending on the second goal, you gotta have that save there
I would love to see him just walk off the ice in the middle of a game. Sure he has let some soft goals in but he also been standing on his head making crazy saves to try and save a game only to be let down by a team that looks like they don't even try. Maybe if he walks off the ice the rest of the team will get a clue to get their heads out of their asses and play like we all know they can.
But hey, everybody, look at the bright side -- think of all he money we'll be savig not buying playoff tickets this year!
Too soon? I kid...
I get why all you guys are yelling a me (Gravey94), and I see your guys point. You guys are saying that its just a 48 game season and you have to take it with a "grain of salt". I get that perspective, but after years of being bad, I really thought last year was a stepping stone to being an elite team like Pittsburgh or Boston. I get the steps back we have taken, we clearly overachieved last year for the amount of talent we have, and mostly we can thank Hank for that. But it is the compete level that disappoints me and makes me lose faith. We went from 1st in fighting to 26th, that is the kind of thing that changes a team... I dont know but I liked the grit we had, and it seems like it is gone with players like Richards and Gaborik, just my perspective
It was nice having one year off from the struggle to make the playoffs in spring time blues. If it wasn't for last year we would be right where we are used to being at the end of the season. In previous seasons they have had to make some pretty incredible runs to finish the season in order to make the playoffs. We are going to need one of those now. It's funny how one small taste of success last year has changed our expectations and our backbone. This year is what we have been dealing with for many many years of Rangers Hockey before and after they won the cup. I agree with gravey94 - if you can't take being a Rangers fan (and it is not for the faint of heart) then root for whoever is in first place.
I'm not going to pretend I know the answer but I don't want to mortgage the future with a trade to help us right now. I like what Torts said in the ESPN interview about very rarely having the opportunity to pick up a super star like Nash in the prime of his career. It is much easier to fix the middle of the lineup. We may have underestimated the value of the guys we gave up for Nash as well as the value of the guys that walked but they can all be replaced over time - and we do have some time. Would like to see us staying focused on being younger and hungrier. Want to see our youth pool continue to be the priority. Perhaps an adjustment to use the players you have to the best of their potential rather than stuffing them into a mold that was best for last years team might be worth thinking about. The time to be a buyer at the trade deadline is when you are already rolling (e.g. Pens). If we are to be anything this year it should be as a spectator or a seller.
I won't be surprised when he leaves the team. Free Agency, trade, whatever. I'm almost to the point where I'll follow him to whatever team he goes to. I'll be done rooting for laundry.
our coach don't miss the net. these pro's know how to set up on a power play. so why aren't they. torts is a great coach, granted he might not have full control of the team. look we win 3 or 4 in a row, the negativity will go away, but that starts with solid consistent play... no reason why we can't do that.
Not sure if this comparison has been made yet...but minus the shortened season doesnt this remind anyone alot of 1992-93? 1991-92 we had the great season winning the Presidents Trophy, our first really great regular season in years. Strong playoff run. Expectations going into 1992-93 were sky high for a Cup run. It just didnt happen. Players underachieved, injury after injury happened, the coach lost the players and the team just totally crapped out. Yet it seemed to really galvanize the organization going into 93-94, we found the right coach, some personnel changes were made and of course we all know what happened that year.
They don't deserve to qualify for the postseason. They're not good. Without Lundqvist they're in the basement of the Eastern Conference.
the fact that we can't be top 3 in the NHL with the number 1 goalie is a disgrace... fire torts or get rid of some of the team
(Though, to be completely honest, I'm mortified of the idea of things getting worse, and Hank getting fed up and leaving to go somewhere competitive in the future. I'd die.)
@coontzbloontz LOL, thanks for the kind words! I don't begrudge anyone their opinion and I think Kevin does Yoeman's work keeping this blog up for all us addicts to get our daily (sometimes hourly) fix. Seriously, how horrible was it over the summer when there was no blog!!!! I've also been a NY sports fan all my life and I know ho ridiculous fans can get sometimes when their team is not meeting expectations. Hell, I've heard Yankee fans want to ditch Jeter because he wasn't performing. Really? Derek Freakin' Jeater??? A little success in NY creates this vacuum of un-realistic expectations that the team is supposed to win year after year. Being a Mets fan in addition to a Rangers fan has given me plenty of practice at tempering those expectations. But I guess the expectation of the team to win every year is what makes winning in NY so great.
@coontzbloontz My blog is purely about my thoughts and feelings on the Rangers. I'm a fan. I'm going to over-react, contradict and be very emotional about this team.
I don't need stats to tell me this team needs toughness, or more bodies going to the net. There are plenty of blogs that base their opinions solely on stats, so if you'd rather that format then go ahead and visit them.
@queensbee well we have to buy them by today if we are season tickets holders... tough decision, but of course being a moron we got them
@slapshot13j I'm not yelling at you, I'm just tired of all the doom & gloom. Sure the team took a step back from last year, but they are still competitive. Having the young core of Stepan, Hagelin, Miller, MDZ (to some extent), and now Kreider playing the way they are should be exciting for fans. McDonagh's had a so-so season, but he's still a monster and should also be part of that excitement. I would be very surprised if Richards and Gaborik both had the same struggles next year. If they do, then talk of getting rid of them would be warranted. Plus having guys like Powe, Pyatt, and Asham going through a full camp and a full season would probably be extremely beneficial to them succeeding with this team. 48-games in 3 months is not enough of a sample for me to lose faith that this organization is moving in the right direction. It would suck to miss out on the playoffs after last season, but it would suck much worse to watch management blow up this team over a knee-jerk reaction like many fans seem willing to do. Luckily, I think Sather & Co. are a little more realistic than that.
Definitely agree that we have lost the grit. I was saddest about the loss of Prust. I think that when we lost him, we lost both our grit and a huge piece of the chemistry of the team. While at the time I said there was no way he was worth what Montreal was willing to pay him, it looks like I was wrong about that... as was NYR management. Sometimes what looks good on paper doesn't translate to the ice, and conversely, what doesn't show up on paper can make a huge difference.
@greggray24 but who in the middle do you want to replace? I would think the only two are Richards and boyle... I guess you could throw Gaborik into that category....
@MikeL1981 A little. But as much as 94 was magic and will always be legendary in our minds, it wasn't the best thing for the organization looking at the future. Smith mortgaged most of the future to get bigger and grittier for the playoffs. I don't think this team is there. I think this team just needs a full regular season to build itself into its own identity and create some chemistry. Can do that when you have a game every other day and no time for rest & practice. This season it's rest OR practice in between games.
@MikeL1981 so is this supposed to mean fire Torts? and if you do who do you bring in? Ruff? Idk but I dont think you can fire Torts until the team struggles next year, if they do at all... i mean they still can make the playoffs and go deep...who am i kidding
@NYR212 they are the basement without Lundqvist
@slapshot13j Great plan. Why don't you apply to be a GM.
The only thing that matters is no matter how insane someone's solutions or ideas might be they're only offering them because they care about the success of this team.
@slapshot13j Should we squeak in and you can't bear to witness the horror show, I would happily buy some off you. Me = masochist. :)
@gravey94 @slapshot13j they are definitely headed in the right direction. You can't account for Gab and Richards being so dismal, Staals injury or Sauer's concussion. Could you imagine their D if Staal and Sauer were healthy? There are so many reasons to be optimistic.
1. Hagelin, Miller, Kreider, McD all still young. haven't even hit the prime of their careers.
2. Have the best goalie in the league.
3. Nash is 28.
4. Ryan Callahan is 28.
5. They've been drafting like bosses for the past few years.
32? or so games don't erase what they did last year 50+ wins and conference finals. C'mon slappy...
@queensbee I definitely think there are two sides to the loss of grit issue though, the players that were lost, and the players that stayed. Gaborik used to get angry after the whistle and even shove people after they hit him, that is completely gone... he just skates away. Richards too, idk but it seems like they are playing to not get injured...
@slapshot13j Assume that Hags-Steph-Nash are our top line. Keepers for the middle in my mind are Cally, Kreider, & Miller (wish Torts would just make them the 2nd line). The rest can go if we are looking to the future. If we can get some value for Gabby then we should. He is not doing anything for us right now and I just don't see that changing until he changes teams (or coaches). Doubt anyone would take Richards at his price which should be a signal to us that something is wrong. Love the guy but that is the way I see it. Perhaps those naked GM pics can help :). Boyle can go to the 4th line where he can come in for faceoffs and penalty kills. He has no business being on the top three.
Note that my main point is that I don't want to give up any youth to try to get help us make a playoff run (or just get in) this year. I'd be OK with changes as described above or no changes at all until the off season.
@gravey94 doesn't take a genius to see Brad Richards=Scott Gomez=Chris Drury....
Hahahahaha... you said if Flower plays well this year... hahahahaha
@queensbee hey if we are playing Pitt, at least we could possibly see one of the best teams in the history of the game... Those top 2 lines are scary good, if Fleury plays well this year... I dont see how they lose
@greggray24 yea no one under 25 is leaving, that should be asserted
@gravey94 do you know how much money Dolan has, and no he will wait one year and pay him 35 million, and then let him go to the Flyers and pick up Evgeni Malkin if he has any brain whatsoever, but who am I kidding... the Dolans and Slats making an educated move... better chance of seeing Santa Claus
@slapshot13j Yea, cause I'm sure Dolan is just itching to pay our $45M to Brad Richards to watch him move to the Flyers or Bruins because he didn't perform well in 48 games. #clueless
@gravey94 well, I am pretty sure Richie wont either... keeps playing like this and he will see his ticket punched with a buyout, worst contract I have seen in the NHL to this day... Another great move by Sather...
@slapshot13j I'm sure you would cause you are an NHL caliber player right. Oh wait, that's why you DON'T make $12M because you DON'T play in the NHL so really you have no clue as to what you would or wouldn't do because you've never been there!!!
@queensbee @gravey94 O yea? what fricken mentorship.... I am so sick and tired of this locker room attitude bull... It seems like everyone thinks there need to be guys that can lead in a locker room. We have Rick Nash, Ryan Callahan, and Gaborik all former or current captains first of all... Also, if you are paying 12 million for a locker room guy, then who is the fool? And yea I compare him to Gomez, he blows and this is exactly what happened to that guy.... he is more like Drury but either way he sucks
Whoa, whoa, whoa... Is Richie under-performing, especially considering his price tag? Absolutely. But lumping him in with Gomez is just uncalled-for. Even if he's not showing up on the scoresheet, he does provide leadership and mentoring for the younger players, which I think adds a lot of value (and which was completely lacking with Gomez).
@gravey94 if i made 12 million dollars a year, I would have figured it out...
@slapshot13j So how did you work through your slumps when you were an NHL center?
@gravey94 yea, because a guy that is making 12 million dollars should have any excuse not to show up for one game, let alone 33.... the fact that you are even defending him is a joke... the truth is there is no excuse for brad Richards anymore... he is either declining or sucks, either way his contract is horrid and needs to be gotten rid of
@slapshot13j After 31 games of a butchered season...no it's takes a fortune teller to see that.