Yesterday, John Tortorella was a guest on the Michael Kay Radio Show (ESPN Radio) and discussed numerous issues including Marian Gaborik struggles, Chris Kreider's improvement, Marc Staal's status and more...
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...really interesting to hear Tortorella admit that the Rangers organization miscalculated the impact losing players such as Prust, Dubinsky, Fedotenko, etc. would have on the team.
...the guys they lost are the type of players teams need to win in the NHL. But they're gone, so it's time to stop crying over spilt milk and hope guys like Asham, Newbury, Pyatt, Boyle and Powe can finally pick it up and spark this team into a playoff run.
If you look at AA and Dubi, they had hustle, they had effort-they play the same way in Columbus.Go Go Go. Prust- that same hutzpa goes without saying-incredible effort every shift.he has helped Montreal with it. Their talent level was also good- NHL level players all.Skill.They all scored goals. They all played the boards.
So thats a big loss- but its replaceable with a number of things- 1.some skill with new players.2.Some effort- thats what the coach has failed to bring out of the team.Skill can be added with Zucc addition-maybe Fasth also (after a few warm up games in AHL.)Effort- that has to come from the players, instilled by their coach..Play desperation hockey for 60 minutes every game-the rookies also have to learn to do this.I would double shift Nash and Stepan they are at the top of their games now.
I'd rather win 6-5 gms than see our players hunted & banged around, & still lose 3-2. Bring on the OFFENSE !!!
Would anyone be surprised to see Feds come back next season?
Get him back and add another good grinder and how far away are we?
Granted, I think the key guys lost are Prust and then Dubi - but there has to be a UFA out there for next season who can play like either of those guys.
Boyle's role with this team is becoming more and more 4th line, not 3rd.
I don't think things are in too bad of shape.
Gabby and Ritchie put up Nash / Cally numbers and we win twice as many games.
Oh and Kevin, Slats needs to get those naked photos of Shero and Bettman in their Vegas suite from last year's NHL awards to Lemieux in hopes he'll fire him before he makes another trade.
Torts miscalculated with the system he was going to run with the addition of high powered offensive players-wasting their talents by trying to run a grinding offense.
Good interview - firstly it's unfathomable to me how I, a mere fan could predict the impact of losing these energy guys would have (which I've posted here many times) and the organization did not? Anyway, moving forward I agree with everything Torts is saying here about the trades, Nash etc. I have been very critical of Torts (frustration) as many here know but I have a good feeling about the direction he and the team are going now. He seems looser, less egotistical, making better adaptations with his players, system etc. now to me the last few days and he did re-unite the HSN line. I would love nothing more than for Torts to prove me wrong from this point on. LGR
I agree, whenever we open the offensive up good things happen. We are not playing to our potential but the season is not over yet and we have a chance.
@TheNYRBlog Agree. Prust shouldn't have gone, Dubi was overpaid in his role (not scoring) and Feds could have stayed with a reasonable deal.
Once again this comes down to torts not adjusting his system to the roster he has, he's trying to play a grinding/defensive style with offensive minded players
Ok I get it, people are unhappy with the season after what happened last year. But just because the Rangers were in the ECF is not an indicator of what to expect this year. Especially when you lose 5 or more players who contributed. So who is really to blame here for this season? The current roster or our expectations? And with the changes to the roster, they didn't have a chance to gel in a camp. Something has to give.
@TheNYRBlog We all have known and seen that to be true. Great to hear Torts admit it. Hope we are on an upswing.
I am actually quite happy to know that while it was a mistake to let as many of the glue guys go in the offseason, that they understand that it is a major issue for this team, and that it is very important to get that fixed. Sometimes as a fan a little transparency like that is comforting so you know that the people running your team "get it", even if they realize a mistake in judgement (always easier to monday morning quarterback that btw) was made. To know that the people in charge are smart enough to learn from a mistake is a good thing (as opposed to being arrogant and pig headed which is something that definitely exists in upper sports management).
What's the point in admitting to anything? You play the cards you're dealt or you don't. Torts sounds like a baby who when he doesn't get what he wants he pouts to the media. I was a Torts fan for his philosophy of coaching and team pride but I'm not an advocate of his woe is me all the time.
I think the biggest problem is that they forgot how long it took some of those guys to grow into their roles under Torts. Because of the shortened season, the replacement grinder types haven't gotten the time the old guys had to maximize their abilities in Tortorella's system. Prust wasn't the Prust we all came to know and love after only 32 games. Dubi had some adjustments once Torts became coach, and even Feds was playing in a different Torts system than he previously had. Aside from Boyle, the new guys haven't played enough in this system yet to be deemed failures as grinders compared to the players who they replaced. We all had the expectation they'd try to step in day 1 and replace the 2012 versions of Prust, Dubi, and Feds, but it was an unfair expectation. They can only replace what those guys brought when they first got here.
All of that doesn't mean that the Rangers don't need help in the grinding department. Clowe isn't worth a 1st rounder, but maybe one of the 3rds. Hopefully Sather, if he's well enough, can make some trade magic happen this week.
@TheNYRBlog and that reason right there is why i turned the page on fire torts. He can stick around. He is not a bullshitter
@TheNYRBlog PPL don't like Torts because he tells it like it is...but in this case they will like it. Torts doesn't BS, he just tells it.
@vatsupper8 UGH! Thank you! I'm so sick of hearing about the 'grinders'. Are we really sitting in 8th place because of Dubi's 2 goals a year? Granted, Prust was great and could bring enough energy to change a game but the other guys were seat warmers.
A great coach maximizes the talent on the roster. This means changing 'the system' when players change.
@vatsupper8 Don't get me started....
@jasonshyer It's sort of like listening to the Count of Tuscany for the first time and thinking it totally sucks and then after a few listens you realize the music is great and it's just the lyrics that blow.
@jtf1218 I don't think Clowe fixes anything. They got enough guys who should score but don't score...I wouldn't want him playing instead of Miller or Kreider at this point either...
@thenyrblogneill Good luck with that. lol
@KevinDeLury @thenyrblogneill Ya know what's a good way to keep the blueliners rested even before the playoffs? When you have a three goal lead in the third period with seven minutes left, maybe let your top guys take a breather and let a guy with just four minutes of ice time maybe play a bit. Just a suggestion really.
@TheNYRBlog Hey i forgot i listened Yesterday...Great show...with 4rth period. do it some more. at least i'll stay interested!
@TheNYRBlog ok I'll listen~and then I'll cry>>>No Help
@PATR2014 Thanks. Yeah, we're trying to do more of those. We're doing one at 3pm on trade deadline day to analyze all the trades.