Welp, it looks like Alain Vigneault's flight to New York yesterday was to meet with James Dolan and I guess it was an effective meeting as apparently the former Canucks coach turned down a significant offer from the Dallas Stars after interviewing with the Rangers owner. He is now considered the hands down favorite for the position.
Here's some more on Vigneault.
...those Dolans can be persuasive. I mean look at how he's convinced us fans to spend ridiculous amounts of money on tickets and concessions. Dolan probably called the Stars before the meeting to tell them to put their money back in their pocket because Vigneault was about to become the next Rangers head coach.
...if Sather wanted the anti-Torts, then he got it. I think the players are going to be very happy with this hire as Vigneault is a stark contrast to the in your face style of Tortorella. Vigneault is known as a guy who lets the team police itself, so Callahan is really going to have to more of a vocal leader instead of one who leads by example.
...Vigneault obviously did an outstanding job of getting the most out of his star players in Vancouver, the hope in New York will be that he can do the same with Nash, Stepan and Kreider.
...my one criticism is that Vigneault was not able to lead the Canucks to a Stanley Cup with all that talent. Yes, he did guide them to Game 7 of the Finals, but they lost that game on home ice, which to me is unacceptable. And what about the six other seasons in Vancouver? Or the four before that in Montreal? He didn't even sniff the Finals. For his sake, I hope the issue in Vancouver was with the lack of clutch goaltending, which we all know won't be a problem with the Rangers.
...should also be interesting to see who he brings in as assistant coaches. Will he have final say? Or will Sather ask him to consider Messier and/or Leetch? Something to keep an eye on.
So is he hired??? Or is this more speculation im still confused I havn't heard anything else about it.
I love this hire. And I'm not concerned about his "lack of success". He led VAN to play a dominant game. They were a dangerous team even at their worst under him. Their lack of playoff success has to do with the character in their locker room I believe and many feel they need a kick in the pants right about now (enter tortorella) but I think he is going to bring a strategy to our team that really plays more on the speed and skill we have (still missing gaborik. I'm a broken record, shhh). Would love to see Mess or leetchy as an assitant. Preferably Mess. Leetch is more cerebral and so is Vigneault. Mess would be a nice contrast, bring a ton of respect, and help Callahan with his transition. Has it's drawbacks but I can see that combo working real well but I don't expect that to be announced soon.
Text from one of my best friends, an inveterate Canucks fan for over 20 years, "Congrats!...I think he is a good coach and is going to do an excellent job for you guys."
The terms "Anti-Torts" and "Players Coach" makes me a bit nervous. I'd rather have a Torts who can adapt to the lightning fast pace of pro-hockey; who understands the unseen "3rd dimension" and can work with rather than against the fragility of human psychology (even at the professional level) than an "anti Torts" and as many of us know "players coaches" usually suck. I was about the 1st to want Torts fired but let us not forget he has a lot of strengths as a head coach as well.
Can we now stop using the word "jam" when talking about players since Torts has been officially replaced?
I was at an amusement park most of the day so I missed a lot of the details. I'm all caught up now and stoked! LETS OPEN TRAINING CAMP TOMORROW!!! I think having pucks in practice before the the first preseason game will do wonders for this team.
That's who wins MVP... Come on NHL. Wanted it to be Tavares but would have rather it been Crosby then this whiner. At least I know he will never win the only trophy that matters...
Lundqvist got killed in the voting.... bobrovsky got 17 first place votes, and Hank got 3 (Total 110 to 55). Maybe Bobrovsky deserved it because his team was awful, but Hank is still the best goalie in the world, and it should have been a lot closer
Thank you! For Mr Vigs!!
Now who will be behind the bench with him? And most important who will he get to coach the PP!
Meah..... I was hoping for Doug Weight, someone with some history with the Rangers and a little bit of fire in their belly. Vigneault seems to have ice cream in his belly.
I am happy with this move. I was not happy with the firing of Torts, but he lost the locker room so it was time to go. This is the only other guy who was available that I was even interested in (Tippett is not available). He has been to the Cup (yes I know he didnt win it) and has proven he can win in the regular season, albeit our division will be a lot tougher than what he is used to. Either way, I think he is given to much blame for their postseason failures... a lot of that has to go on the Sedins... they disappear in the playoffs because they are not physical and get muscled around when the games get more important. Hopefully he wont have that issue with Nash, but I will say that is the one thing I am worried about. Also, he wont have a dumb goaltending issue to worry about every day he walks into the office.
Get ready Rangers fans, I think for the first time in a long time we are going to see a team that can actually score.... I am interested to see how Hank plays with a more open strategy, a lot of goals against him are because of deflections and rebound goals... in a more open system there should not be as many of those, but there will be a lot better opportunities.... I definitely think there will be an adjustment period for everyone including Hank... its not easy to switch a teams strategy after they have been playing it for 5 years... Great things take time...
From an article on canucksarmy.com:
The Canucks have relinquished their lead in the Northwest Division following a series of no-shows against the Columbus Blue Jackets and the Minnesota Wild. The power-play is a mess, the team isn't scoring enough and auspicious possession numbers aside - the effort put forth by Vigneault's players has seemed inconsistent at best this season.
Hmmm - sounds vaguely familiar! Just sayin'...
I just saw a video of Vigneault laughing hysterically behind the bench and later laughing about it with reporters. I would say he is the Anti-Torts.
If Guy Boucher is willing to be an assistant coach for a year or two, I'd love him to come to NY and help the PP.
Just in case anyone was wondering....
please enough of the messier stuff, n stop speculated he goin to become am assitant coach, because u want him 2 be??? no coach is goin to take this job n be forced to take on an assitant with NO COACHING EXPERIENCE!!
WOW, i cannot wait to watch some exciting hockey next year. This is the kind of coach where Kreider will flourish.... you hear that Mcphee. I can see 30 goals next year from the kid..... It is all falling into place!!! That top line is going to be filthy (Nash-Stepan-Kreider)
a winning coach, with a great track record, preaches defense first, but lets his skilled players, do their thing, a players coach, which is a stark contrast from torts, whats not to be thrilled about????? why cos mess, isnt becomin the head coach???
Speaking of assistant coaches has there been anything official stated on mike Sullivan's job? I mean, we can all make assumptions but I haven't heard squat.
Seems like all but a done deal. Vigneault is unofficially the new head coach of the Rangers as far as I'm concerned.
That whole "hasn't won a championship" thing is so comical. There are just so many variables outside of talent and preparation that go into getting a championship once you are in say the final four teams competing. Marv Levy took the Bills to 4 straight Super Bowls, but fans will always consider him for having NOT won. However, people associated with the NFL see him for the incredible coach he was. Dan Marino, Patrick Ewing, Dan Fouts, Mattingly, Bud Grant...the list goes on for both players and coaches. Championships mean a lot to an organization but they are not really true indicators of how good an individual is, be it player, or coach.
It took Mike Keenan 9 years to win the Cup, so who's to say same thing can't happen with AV. I'm ok with this decision.
@SpazzBrown Supposed to be officially announced today.
@Betweentheworlds He had a lot of strengths but to say he was "adaptive" when it took him till the 2nd round of the playoffs to pull richards off of the power play speaks to the opposite. Plenty of blame on the players but bottom line torts' style was not getting the best out of this team anymore.
@Josh6 Hank is undoubtedly the best goalie in the world, but for the sample size of 48 games that was the 2013 regular season, Bobrovsky earned the Vezina for sure. NUMBER ONE COP IN TOWN
@MikeBlue still could be an assistant... but i doubt it. I think Leetch may get an assistant job out of this...
@Josh6 i agree. i cant wait until next year. good coach choice. now is not the time for messier. that will come in time. it is inevitable. kreider scoring 30? why not? he has the whole package: speed, size and hands. none of that can be denied. he also doesnt have napolean coach over his shoulder making him a healthy scratch all the time. 30 you say? why the fuck not??!?!?!?!?
@Josh6 30? I'll take the under
@calithirteen @Betweentheworlds I was implying that Torts was unable to adapt, which is incomprehensible as Hockey requires more adaptability than all other sports. I'm so glad he's gone but in a way the fact that he's been a successful coach in this league in spite of his stubborn refusal to adapt, and too rigid a game plan speaks volumes for his other coaching skills.
@IcyCup @Josh6 Yea, if he can mix the talent we saw in the playoffs his first year with the physicality we saw in the playoffs this year... he could end up being a better version of Rick Nash (at least one that will hit). Next year is going to be a good year for that kid, and if he has 30 goals he is going to get a sizable contract, probably more than what Stepan gets. The kid has so much potential, he is going to be a superstar one day.