Andrew Gross at the Bergen Record reports that the Rangers are likely to do everything they can to re-sign Henrik Lundqvist, even if that means offering a max contract of eight years, $80 million.
Under the new CBA, a team cannot re-sign one of their own players for more than eight years.
Lundqvist is 31-years old.
...got to do, what you got to do. The Rangers franchise would literally fall apart without Lundqvist. I don't care how good a job Tom Renney did bringing the Rangers back to respectability or how Tortorella took that to another level, I'm pretty confident in saying that without Lundqvist the Rangers are likely still in a playoff drought spanning back to 1998. Every off-season we hear reports about Lundqvist's ailing knees, but I'm surprised it's not his back from carrying the Rangers franchise all these years.
...as I've stated, with Lundqvist's non-committal about re-signing, Sather's head coaching search this summer could be the single biggest decision he's ever had to make in his career. Because if things go bad next season, Lundqvist is gone. And I bet he'd take less money to go to a legit contender.
...having said that, $10 million per under the new CBA is a big chunk of change. Especially when Callahan and Girardi will be UFAs in 2014 as well. If the Rangers don't win the Cup next season, got to wonder if Sather can sit Lundqvist down and convince him that if he takes less money the Rangers will be more likely to add the missing pieces needed to hopefully bring home that elusive championship. You also have to wonder how a 38-year old Lundqvist with all the wear and tear his body will likely have taken will be worth an eight year contract. We've seen the accelerated declines of Drury and Richards, so if the Rangers do sign Lundqvist to max years we just have to hope he doesn't suffer from the same fate.
Larry Brooks at the New York Post actually gives us an interesting stat that could be used to argue against re-signing Lundqvist....
"No goaltender in NHL history ever has won his first Stanley Cup with his original team later than his sixth season in the league."
...with Lundqvist being in his eighth season with the Rangers, history is against the Blueshirts winning a Cup with The King big time. I guess there's a first time for everything. Right?
Not this "Louongo" effect here in New York !! Look at all the nonsense that Roberto and Vancouver have gone through. Give Hank a 2 to 4 year situation and see how that plays out, much less stress to deal with,,,let's focus on scoring more this next season !!!
I absolutely think it's not about money at this point for Hank. Not that I mean that he'll sign for peanuts, but he wants a Cup, and he'll sign wherever he thinks he's got the best shot at doing that. And if taking $1M or so less per year will give the right club a chance to bolster the roster, I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
As for the stat... it's interesting... but I don't think it's all that meaningful. Up until last season, no 8th seed had ever won the Cup. These "no X has ever Y" stats are just there to give sportscasters something to say on TV.
My guess. Hank will resign at a slight discount as long as it's long term and as long as the team put in front of him is one that he feels can take it to the next level (since there's no guarantee of building a team for a Cup) My best guess. He'll sign 8 yrs at 9.5m in a long term deal. (just enough to jump Ovi) He'll sign 4-5 yrs at 10m in a short term deal.
Can't pay him that much. Period. Yes, I know that he is worth that much on these teams that the Rangers have put together. But you must follow it through to its logical conclusion. He is worth that much only because he is almost single-handedly keeping the Rangers reasonably competitive. If you think that such an arrangement should continue, then by all means pay him the money, for that is what you will be ensuring. In an age of salary caps one must be very careful about overspending in any one area. And that is without even considering that during the last half of the next contract he will likely not even be able to carry that future hamstrung team, which will result in them not even being reasonably competitive.
This is just basic math here. How about this suggestion Sather - start creating a better team whose success doesn't require you having to pay the super-premium dollars for the little extra that Hank offers as an all world goalie over a somewhat more affordable exceptional, or just really good goalie. Never, ever, ever play the suckers bet of diminishing returns for that little extra a superstar offers - particularly in the second half of their careers. The Yankees are sure lamenting that decision with A-Rod right now.
The NYR won the cup with "just" an exceptional to excellent goalie in Richter, b/c they had a helluva lot more talent in front of him. Do it again Ranger management....it's your job!
interesting... so thats what these guys think about all day lol
Food for thought: was listening to sports radio here in a boston and the local guys think that with the emergence of Krug and Hamilton, they will let Ferrence walk at the end of the year. I'd be interested. Anyone else?
5 years 50 million. He isn't happy after that and Rangers haven't won anything he can join the Red Wings (i.e. Dominick Hasek) and win a cup there since Detroit is ALWAYS contending.
The only pet peeve I ever had with Lundquist was why he never adjusted his game and come out more towards top of crease and cut down angles. He literally plays goalie along the goal line which is a bit unorthodox. It's why time and time again most goals are usually scored against him when players are practically in the blue crease, of course it doesn't help that we have a pacifist defense that doesn't clear out or show some snarl. But you figure as you get older you make some minor adjustments with being a bit more aggressive on your angles. Just sayin.....
Just thought I would throw out names around the league that I have heard rumors of buyouts about....
Marian Hossa - Chicago Blackhawks (more interested in a trade)
Vincent Lecavlier- Tampa Bay Lightning
Danny Briere- Philadelphia Flyers
Ilya Kovalchuk- They don't think the devils will because they are not very close to the cap, but his contract gets hit the worst if he retires before it is over...
They can follow @cb1 's suggestions (with which I wholeheartedly agree) but if they don't surround him with a team that can perform at the level that the Bruins, Kings and 'Hawks are performing right now (eff the pens) than signing him won't mean bupkis. he can't do it alone.
honestly, they should let hank write his own contract. if he wants 10M a year, his own private jet and gets to drive the zamboni down 7th avenue on his off days, sather should let him
Compared to other players he's worth it. He works his ass off on n off ice for NYR..he deserves honary Stanley Cup
just thinking about this makes me sick. the rangers have taken hank forgranted for so long that we haven't even drafted an heir apparent. if he leaves we are effed
Islanders will not be resigning streit, could be an interesting move for the rangers to qb the pp for a 1 year or max 2 year contract
This is a shocker... I thought hank wanted to win... If he is just in it for the money that's one thing, but if he's all about winning this hinders any team he is going to play for. If he is looking for that kind of contract it is going to handicap any team he is on, even the rangers, in winning a cup with him. They will not be able to add a big time player like Malkin or datsyuk or sedin, and won't be able to pick up second and third liners because of it... I thought hank was better than that. If this is the contract, the rangers don't win a cup with hank, mark my words
Lundqvist is good and he'll continue to be good. Goalies last a long time.Sign Lundy, then our goalie is not something we have to worry about.
Hank will be fine. Look at Marty's old ass. I know Brodeur plays a different style that is easier on the knees but he's a good example of how long a goalie can be effective. The only thing Hank needs to work on is his puck play behind the net. Here's to hoping he's in it for the long haul and he'll stick it out to get us the Cup.
I'm sure hank realizes that he's part of the reason we haven't won a cup. he's been given a good defensive team and most of the goals he gets beat on in the playoffs are kinda weak. I understand that this is controversial view point but its kinda true. I think we will be a better offensive team next year and hank stays.
I think it's a grat idea. The ice surface has basically shrunk because these guys are bigger and faster than ever. Anything to open up space for NHLers I can get down with.
@stRangers fan I'll never complain on how Henrik plays goal at this point. A couple of players have said it's so hard to score on him cause he plays so deep in the crease (you think you have daylight, and then Henrik shuts the door). If there's any improvement remaining in Henrik's game, I would think it's his stick handling, which has gotten him in trouble from time to time.
@cb1 i actually like this a lot... tell him "look we will give you whatever you want, if thats the maximum so be it, you are New York Hockey. But, remember when you write what you want that the higher you go the less money we have to spend to surround you with suitable talent to win a cup. Here is a blank check, Dolan doesnt give a SHIT, take what you want.... he is just going to jack up cable prices anyway..."
Then Hank has to make a decision
@cb1 The Zamboni could be his daily driver.
To be fair though, picking a goalie is never a certain thing. I think they felt hank would be here for awhile and starting with. 4 years left (when he is around 36) they'd begin to draft some young guys and have them work under hank... Maybe another swede with a similar style
That hank was better than what? Pretty sure the article said he could be offered, not hank could demand.
And also for that kind of money he should be a vezina candidate every single season... No excuses. If he's not, then shame on him.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG You're right and wrong. The past 2 years Hank has been lights out in the playoffs, so he does have a point there. Plus for every weak goal he lets in, he saves 3-4 sure goals that another goalie would not stop. Before that, he was not so dominant in the playoffs but probably had a bit more scoring and less defense in front of him. I don't see the failings in the playoffs as Hank's fault, and I don't think it's so easy to just blame it on the lack of scoring either. It looks more like a motivation problem to me. If the coach is not able to motivate the players to excel and leave it on the ice, it's up to the letters and I'm not sure any of them are good at any type of motivation except by example. I'd like a bit more fire and in your face moments from the C & As!
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG I have to say I strongly disagree anyone who says he has fault in the rangers lack of playoff success. There is no way rangers make it past the first round without hank this year, and it seems about 75% of the goals he gives up are either deflected or cause of a screen. that is a direct result of too much traffic in front of him. he has been lights out for them and is the main reason they have won any round the last 6 years
@_Jack 4 INCHES, PYLE! 4 INCHES!
Maybe I'm spinning this the way I want, but I think his exit interview comments made it clear he cares more about winning then money. At this point in his career I bet he'd play for free if it meant he got to hoist the Cup. He already has money, he's already got fame. I hope he looks at the financial disasters that have been created by guys like Kovulchuk and Richard and comes at this with a level head.
Bottom line, this is on Slats, and money isn't everything. His coaching decision and how this team plays next year means more to Hank than money.
@_Jack good point, I dont think he wants this kind of contract if it will hurt the team that badly. I think he takes the 8 years, but for 60 million dollars
I know my argument has flaws but its a team. I just hope hank isn't gonna be greedy here. it never works when an athlete wants to be the highest paid player in his sport or position. it's counterproductive. hank makes a lot of money off the ice. I'd hope he gives the rangers a discount. just look at the pens now. there's no guarantee even if you go to a stacked team that you will win the cup.
I also hated his past tense comments at the end of the year. the last time I checked he still had a year left.
I love hank. I'm just tired of him complaining about his teammates lack of scoring. it was torts system. it was a 2 edged sword that hurt and helped hank. if defense suffers this year as a result of more offense then he better be ready. cause if they average another one to two goals a game at the expense of the defense he will be our of excuses. it's a team sport and he has to realize that he may not have win the Vezna without that defense first team that he complained about during the playoffs.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG what was hank, a 6th round pick? Weren't Blackburn and DiPietro 1st rounders? its a crap shoot.
@Josh6 im gonna go out on a limb and say that Streit will cost more than that.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIGhonestly i dont really think he did that much complaining. Sure he made a comment about not being able to score in OT but I can't blame him for being frustrated. Personally I don't think there system did him many favors. he still made highlight reel saves on a weekly basis and they gave up just as many scoring chances a game as most teams do. If you want to talk about a really good defensive system that doesn't require stacking everyone in front of the goalie so he can't see anything, look at Boston. It's about being big and physical along the boards and having smart break-outs, along with a hard forecheck. if you have the puck, the other team doesn't. That's my main problem with them. Anytime they get the puck they either chip it out or dump it in, handing possession over to the other team. I think he'll do better actually in a more possession, play-making system
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG I bet if you asked Hank if he prefers all the shot blocking that came wiht Tort's system he say he doesn't like it. If Hank can see the puck and the shooter, he's gonna make the save. He'll be just fine without all the shot blocking in front of him. His timing and positioning is always on point, and he's got every right to call out the rest of the team for not scoring. He does his part virtually every single game he's suited in. He'll be ready.