In a piece on the Rangers prospects awards, Leslie Treff at Hockey's Future says this about Dylan McIlrath's development...
"The 2012-13 season was McIlrath's first season as a pro, and he made a good adjustment. There were times when he was absolutely invisible on the ice, but there were other times when he inflicted bone crushing hits and cleared the crease very well. The 21-year-old remains on target to become Rangers' opponents' most hated blueliner. Still refining his fighting skills and learning positioning, McIlrath is probably two to three years away from fully developing physically and becoming all the Rangers hoped for, but he is currently the best defensive prospect in the system."
...now just because Treff is saying McIrath is 2-3 years away from fully developing doesn't mean that's how long it'll take for him to be in the NHL, but what she's saying pretty much jives with what everyone else who scouts him reports.
...skating seems to be his biggest hangup. If he can continue to improve on that, he will be an intimidating force on the blueline for years to come. If not, we might be looking at another Stu Bickel.
...best case scenario is he starts the season with the Whale and gets called up at some point this season as an injury replacement to get his feet wet.
Treff adds that Oscar Lindberg and J.T. Miller will likely compete for a roster spot in camp this season, while Michael St. Croix will need a full year in the AHL.
Treff also notes that Cristoval "Boo" Nieves is expected to stay at Michigan for one more season.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=bh_o_DoO5-Y&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dbh_o_DoO5-Y this is the Ufa we need to sign. He is in his mid 20's and will be the intimidator that we need on the blue line. I am telling you, this kid is a must sign.
All the more reason not to trade him. He will be hitting his stride just when our other guys are solid veterans.
UUUGGHHH... This is the one guy I've been waiting for to come up. I'm partial because I use to play that way. I don't know, get this guy with that graceful power skating chic that worked with Boyle and Zuccs. Improved their skating 100%
4:13PM: Glen Sather told Chris Johnston outside the NHL Board of Governors meeting that a decision on Richards is coming “shortly.”
Is it weird that I am very very nervous.... Get ready boys and girls this will shape our team for the next decade...
Who was the defenseman picked right after McIlrath? He started rookie year and been contributing. McIlrath is a goon who fights too much. He's nowhere near being a Beukaboom type.
DId not know him like you older guys, but I lost so much respect for this guy this last month... What a fricken cry-baby.
I believe she wrote the same thing when he was drafted in 2010. Maybe she really doesn't know and is just taking the safe route? Do journalists do that?
I could not disagree more on McIlrath he's more of an imposing blue liner than anyone on our present roster. His skating is on par for his size, if anyone recalls Beukeboom from his Edmonton days thats what DM is in a nutshell. He's not a puck rushing def. he's a stay at home steak & potatoes type. I predict he will be with the big club at some point early next season.
I saw him once in game against Hershey. He was an incredibly invisible +3 on the ice. His skating needs some work, bit I love the kid's spirit.
Sorry, I disagree about McIlrath. I saw him make an end to end rush skating by everybody (and would have scored but a terrific save by the opposing goalie. His biggest problem is puck possession. Saw him 4 times, 1st time when he came back from his knee injury and looked better each time I saw him. I think he has a good shot in making the team out of camp especially if Staal and Stralman aren't able to play. I think we'll see him one way or the other next season.
Interestingly enough, when he rejoined the Whale the teams GAA dropped over a half point. I hope they keep taking a look at him. No fear at all, especially in front of the net.
YESSSS OSCAR!!!! Lindberg is such a stud, should be centering the third line with Cally on his wing this year. The guy is just a winner, plain and simple...
As I said above, I think he'll get a chance at some point this season, but likely won't be ready for full time role until next season.
mcilrath will be ready to retire by the time he gets here. meanwhile 2 or 3 players from the first round have already made impacts in the nhl. but all joking aside i cant wait for him to clean house!
This is such a joke... I have heard of babying a kid, but if you are 24-25 and still a rookie, chances are you are not going to be that great of a hockey player. I'll give the Rangers this year for him, but if he is not on the ice by the 2014-2015 season I give up on this kid...
I would really have to agree with this move, guys a stud, absolutely terrorizes opponents but the problem is we are no longer a torts grinding team who knows what AV is gonna turn this
@Josh6 Dude relax no matter what way it goes it won't have that big of an effect. Shit I heard about 15-different times over the years that a player was going to ruin the Rangers cap for years. Lets see they said it about Kasparitis, Jagr, Bure, Gomez, Redden, & others. Things will work out even if he stays & gets hurt. Which BTW do you really think if he is hurt next year he won't figure out a way to get"unhurt" so he gets the buyout? C'mon the players association, Rangers, & league will make that work.
Whether he stays or goes won't matter that much. Especially when he bounces back next year & has a 16-goal 55-assist year.
@Josh6 What an a-hole! Going off to expand hockey to kids in the City he brought a Cup to, instead of hanging around Glen Sather like a lost puppy.
@Ted Kazimiroff I agree. DM is pretty much Beuke in terms of skating. Problem is, I believe Beuke would have a hard time playing in today's NHL, which is much faster.
@lennynyr DM is a surprisingly good skater (and much improved), but he still has a slow first step, and it's that slow first step that puts him out of position at times (which even Beuke said more or less, needs improvement). IMHO, what separates the NHlers from the AHLers skating-wise is that explosive first step, both north/south & laterally. The elite skaters of today's NHL will have a field day with a defenseman who's not extremely mobile, and from what I've seen, DM is not at that level right now.
I've said it before, but his current skating ability reminds me of Beuke or Dale Purinton. Both were adequate skaters in their time, but in today's NHL, I think Beuke would struggle, and Purinton's NHL career basically came to an end once they opened up the game, cause he was simply too slow.
I hope DM skating continues to improve, cause he is extremely strong, very good at clearing the crease, has a nasty edge to his game, and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. It would be nice for the NYR to finally have that nasty stay at home defenseman that we always pine for.
@lennynyr Thanks for the scouting report. I have yet to see him live, so I'm only going on what I've been told. Hope you're right!
@Thetis-Dimitra Kotitsa Don't buy it, he'll be spending some time, if not the whole season with the Rangers.
Callahan is the Rangers 2nd RW and team captain. He's the kind of guy that would play some 3rd line mins if asked to but he has developed his offensive game and is 10 times better with the puck now than he was when he came into the league full time in 2008. I do think Lindberg will be a stud Centerman in the NHL for the Rangers. He played against men in a very competative SEL in Sweeden. It may take him some time to adjust to the smaller rink here but he will. He is said to be a solid 2way player. I just hope he has enough nasty in him to play on the 3rd line. If the Rangers decide not to use buyout on Richards, then he may begin the season in Hartford. He is a player that is very important to the Rangers short term as well tho. If there is an injury or a player is not getting the job done. Oscar has to be ready to step in seemlessly. The teams that make it to the finals, have those very good depth players. The Rangers have not had that. Depth may have landed them in the SCF in 11/12. The Devils just had 1 or 2 more lines producing offensively than the Rangers did. We could've beat LA that year. I think they were on a roll a year ago.
Why so long for him. You told me this when the NYR season ended but I thought the coaches like how he looked this year in Connecticut. I know his skating needs improvement but I've heard players do that in an offseason. He is so big and Shoenfeld said he comes to camp every year bigger and with more muscle. The team needs that big 6th Defensmen. Teams scored most goals against from right in and around the crease.
Yeah that won't matter much to the team. They drafted him 10th overall in 2010. I doubt they give up of him anytime soon if ever. His skill set is not that of a Staal or that type of Dman. He just has to play consistently. Hit people and stick up for fellow defenseman. The Rangers haven't had a defenseman fight since Sauer went down. I think we see him at some point this year in the NHL as long as he continues to improve in the AHL.
@Ranger Dave Zdeno Chara was a -62 his first two seasons. Granted it was with the Isles but my point is you need to wait on judging Fowler. He's 21 and already has 200 games and a 40 point season under his belt. What's Mcllrath done. I'm rooting for him to turn into Beuk but I'm not holding my breath. Either way in 20 years I think we'll look back at passing over Fowler as a big mistake. Hope I'm wrong.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=bh_o_DoO5-Y&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dbh_o_DoO5-Y Kevin please give us a little scouting report on this ufa
@KevinDeLury @lennynyr Think you are too young but i remember a Ranger who had puck possession deficiencies when he first came up and that Ranger was Jack Tex Evans. He learned on the job since he was big, tough, smart and feared. Became an all-star as his puck possession improved. McIlrath offers so much on the mean, size, fighting style the Rangers need and has enough talent in those areas to let him learn the rest on the job like Evans.
@NYRFan_RF1 Defenseman take longer to develop. Plus the knee injury last season set him back a bit. Look at Del Zotto. Sure he a had a great rookie year, but I think we can all say now he was brought up too early and needed time learning the game in the AHL.
@Josh6 @gravey94 Dude you don't know that. How do u know why he left? Cause of a tweet by Zipay? If I was Mess I would leave to. What role does he really have? Special advisor? Whats that? Basically nothing. He wants more responsibility, I can't blame him he is 52-years old. He wants a challenge. Your a young guy you have all the time in the world but older guys like us know when we hit 40 time starts running short on your career. Oh & BTW you contradict yourself. You say he left in a snit cause he wasn't named coach, then you sy only the Rangers would seriously consider him as coach. They obviously didn't or he might be coach today.