Katie Strang of ESPN informs us that the New York Rangers expect to be busy this upcoming weekend with their team aside from drafting future Blueshirts on Sunday at the Entry Draft.
First, the news that Henrik Lundqvist talks should begin over the weekend:
#NYR Expect Henrik Lundqvist's camp and Rangers brass to huddle this weekend at draft to begin contract talks.— Katie Strang (@KatieStrangESPN) June 27, 2013
- The sooner the better. Although I doubt a contract is signed before the season starts, it's at least encouraging to see both sides willing to begin talks early. For Hank, a lot depends on how the team will play under new HC Alain Vigneault. Pretty sure the man is tired of his own players screening shots and the opposition taking liberties with him in his own crease.
The other significant news is in regards to the Rangers' bevy of RFAs that need new contracts:
#NYR Rangers also have 3 key RFAs to sign: Hagelin, McDonagh and Stepan. Some basic, preliminary talks so far, likely to continue this wknd— Katie Strang (@KatieStrangESPN) June 27, 2013
- The Rangers have roughly $14 million in cap space to work with this offseason. The majority of it will go to sign Stepan, McDonagh and Hagelin. Barring anything ridiculous, you can add Zuccarello to this list, leaving the Rangers with little wiggle room afterwards to improve the team. Unless they buy out Brad Richards of course.
The biggest news to come of this is Clowe, 30 years old and coming off a season where he suffered 3 concussions, is willing to take a pay cut to stay in New York.
“I’m not exactly sure what a pay cut would be, but I’m open to negotiating to find a way to stay here, there’s no question about that,” Clowe said. “I enjoyed it here. You start to form a little bit of a bond, I guess, with the team and the guys. We’ll see what happens, but I feel like this team has the nucleus and the core, and then obviously a guy like Hank in net. Everyone wants to win in New York, and it would be great.”
Clowe is coming off a four-year, $14.5 million ($3.625 million cap hit) deal signed with the San Jose Sharks.
- I'm very, very leery giving Clowe a multi-year deal. Yes, the Rangers could use his size and grit. But that was for a Torts coached team. Now that Vigneault is on board, maybe he'd like to bring in others to do Clowe's job (Mason Raymond?) who are younger and/or cheaper.
- If Clowe is willing to do a deal of three years and $9 million, I could get behind it. Although, I'd still be worried about him staying healthy.
once we buy out richards we will have ~20MM in cap room:
McD: 4MM per
Step: 4MM per
Hags: 2MM per
Zucc: 1MM per
That leaves 8-9 MM in cap space. With that i would like to see them sign some solid depth guys to fill out the third line, which is weak now. Think Mason Raymond, Bryan Bickell, Viktor Stahlberg. Those are some guys you could probably sign for 3-3.5MM a year, all younger, more healthy options than clow. On the more expensive side, i really like Filpulla, but hear that he is looking for almost 5MM. what do you all think?
Look for a blockbuster coming-- NY is talking with Carolina. Staal for Skinner and Carolina's 5th pick in draft. Carolina is desperate to get Staal, ( Skinner now also has concussion history, so I guess that evens out with Staal history) and Skinner has a contract jump of $5.7M for the next 6yrs., something Carolina wants to shake. NY wants in on 1st round in draft, they ( AV ) like Barkov. I would prefer a d-man, Nurse at no. 5. Also, Lecavalier would consider NY, but don't be surprised if wherever he signs, it's for only 1 yr. and goes back to Tampa the following yr. He loves Tampa.
Yeah, I'd take a one year flyer on him, but that's it. I'd prefer size + speed. Clowe only satisfies one of the two...and coming off 3 bell-ringings, that size might be mitigated.
Not sure about Vinny & Clowe . I'd rather focus on the RFA's #27, #21, #62 & #36
As far as Hank goes, give him a 3 year extension at 10.5 making him the highest paid player in the game. Putting him at 35 at the end of the deal. I don't think a max 8 Year 80 plus Million dollar deal will be a good one for the Blue-shirts in the long run (Look how many are being bought out now or just plain didn't work out.)
If i were to take a stab at it, I'd say Vinny is looking for 3 Years for 15 Mil.
Clowe - 2 Years 2.75 AVG 5.5 Mil (if he truly is looking to take a paycut to stay.
Lecavalier will set the mark for the higest paid buyout player. Should be interesting to see this bidding war. I say it comes down to Montreal and the Rangers. Can you imagine a line of Clowe, Lecavalier, and Nash? - Formidable!
Close is an asset on any team coached by anyone. He brings heart, toughness, and someone that everyone will respect because they know he has their back. Not to mention he is capable of scoring 15-25 a year
I, for one, think that the cap is partially unfair and let me explain my reasoning. Depending on what state you are in, taxes are different. In Texas there are no state taxes but there are in NYC. My point is, when it comes down to dollars and cents the markets that have no state taxes have an advantage because they can sign a player for less money saving cap room under the idea that they will pay no taxes. So $10 million in one state can be $7 million in another. Also, the cost of living in NYC is so much higher than say Tampa Bay. I wish the NHL would structure the cap in terms of the market and state taxes.
Dreger says Rangers still undecided on Richards: https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/350249813046083584
I'm not really concerned about Clowe. I know, you're more prone to concussions once you've had your first, blah, blah, blah. I would go out on a limb and say that the majority of players in the league have had a concussion (diagnosed or undiagnosed) at some point in their careers. If they can get him for 2 or 3 years at $3M, I would take him. If not, then I wouldn't mind seeing them go after Bickell with a Prust type of offer. He's been more inconsistent than Clowe, but if you can get him around $2M, it's worth the risk.
Another interesting name from Lightning who might be bought out is Malone. A little old but a big body to put in front of the net.
the lightning are apparently buying out lecaviler. if they buy him our we have to buy out richie right? he's like half the player that 4 is.
Isn't Lundqvist already making between 6-7 million per? I can see him bumped to 7.5 or 8, so if there is a buyout for Richards, there will still be plenty left to re-sign out RFA's.
The trade off...Brad Richards kept on board or buy him out and get a Vinny Lecaviler/Briere type that is bought out, or even a UFA center and Clowe for 3 million per year on 2-3 year deals.
I like the 2 players at 3 million a year for 2-3 years over the risk of Richards injury and can't buy out next year.
@kg9825 Not sure about Filipulla at that price but I like your thinking
@kg9825 I like the idea of bringing in Bickell, have someone fresh from a championship team that knows how to get it done - could inspire the guys and provide some good leadership in the locker room!
I really hope this trade doesn't happen. First of all, while skinner is a great player he is nowhere near worth what they gave him. Second of all I think many people underestimate Staal's value. When healthy he is a top 5 dman in the NHL. If we were to get rid of him our once stacked d becomes weak and thin. This would be a horrible trade, and would not make our offense that much better, just giving us another undersized forward... This would be the end of the rangers
I was thinking almost along the same lines. for the RFA's. I had it as.
#27 - 6 years at 4.25 AVG for 25.5 Mil
#21 - 4 Years at 3.75 AVG for 15 Mil
#62 - 2 years at 2.25 AVG for 4.5 Mil
#36 - 2 years at 1.75 AVG for 3.5 Mil
@KevinDeLury They're not undecided. Sather has already said he has his mind made up. They're waiting to see who hits the market to determine if they can get a better option than Richards. Despite the feeling of a lot of people here, I don't think for a second that Sather views Richards as washed up. But if he can get a similar talent for cheaper and less years, then I have no doubt he will buy him out. There's no advantage to buying him out now as opposed to Monday. Sather is a master at the waiting game!
@KevinDeLury hmmm....still deciding on that warm, bubbling plate of oysters on the half shell, huh? Take your time. I'll come back.
@gravey94 he had 3 in one season. 2 in under a month. it will be interesting to see what they can get him for but i think he would balk at $3mil flat.
m11 helmet. problem solved! it's amazing mess doesn't make that helmet mandatory for the rangers ala torts making everyone wear those brass knuckle pads on their gloves so that they could block Chara bombs and not lose a hand.
@gravey94 Do my arguments really sound like "blah, blah, blah?" LOL!
@KevinDeLury Streaky player, but I've always been intrigued by him. He's kinda like a bigger Dubinsky. I wouldn't mind him at the right price and length.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG I would think Vinny would be headed to the Habs.
@Ciffy02 Even if we get one of those guys for 4-6mil 2years it is still better than Richards til he is a grandfather...
Agree. Assuming Staal comes back able to play to the level he used to he should be untouchable. We still have him under contract for 2 more years. We should at least get 1 of those years before packing him off to his brothers (assuming he will leave for there when he goes UFA)
Well i was close on #27 & dead on for #62....
#21 may drop to 4 years 3.25 with the added money that #27 got.
Gonna stick with my #36 prediction
Add Justin Falk at 1.25 for 1 year.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG Sure - 6mil, 2 years would not be too crazy as long as Richards is bought out.
I agree. by all accounts he's a hockey fan. so he loves what he does and wants to win. call him the anti-avery.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG Maybe if he was named coach they would be wearing them. lol
I wasn't saying he's coming here. I'm just saying if the lightning buyout a player of his caliber than we have to buyout a rapidly ageing 8 million dollar 3rd/4th line center.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG yeah, kinda figured. They better do something soon though. You watch, a class action against the NHL/NFL could male these sports disappear if they are not careful.
Concussions are not from impact, but massive deceleration, which causes the brain to "slosh" against the skull.
Only way to reduce the number is to open up the ice to make huge hits harder to deliver and more expensive (positionally) if you miss.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG I'm going to be sad to see him go. I really liked Richards as a player (not so much last year but I believe that he will be good next year) and a person (especially last year post Sandy). I don't feel bad for a guy who is going to get paid to not play for us and then paid to go play for someone else. He will be just fine. Just wish we could restructure like in football and keep him. With the new CBA and the stupid deal we made there is no way not to buy him out. Hopefully these ridiculous contracts are a thing of the past but who knows. In a few years GMs may figure that they can play games and expect the next CBA to give them get out of jail free cards again.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG Agree. Sather likely sitting back to see who is bought out the next few days. Will likely have big impact on Richards decision.