Renaud Lavoie at RDS reports that Ryane Clowe received the green light from doctors after undergoing a full battery of tests and all is very positive.
Lavoie confirms that Clowe suffered a concussion in the playoffs.
...while this is great news, I think we all know that once you suffer one concussion it becomes that much easier to sustain others.
...as much as I loved what Clowe brought to the table during his short time with the Rangers, the concussion has spooked me a bit and I'd hate for Sather to offer him more than a two year deal at $3 million per.
How many concussions has Clowe had??? anyone know? I've had 6 myself that I know about and my last one was minor but I still went into PCS for about a month. It's such a huge problem and this league should be doing everything in it's power to upgrade head gear and equipment. How many great ones have we lost with career ending head injuries???
Nash had a concussion this year. If he was up for FA, would his concussion spook anyone from signing him? I believe someone else posted that it was minor. Although I don't think concussions can ever be regarded as minor, I understand the point made that he wasn't out one whole year. Look at Crosby. His concussions were worse than Clowe's and he was out longer. I am all for re-signing Clowe at a reasonable, cap-friendly contract. My only concern is the concussion history in Clowe's case b/c he's a fighter unlike Crosby, Staal, etc
Just wanted to say something on a completely different note. Just got back from my hockey game in our league that started at 945. We were the last game so when it ended tied we told the refs if they stayed we would pay them extra per each period of OT they did (20 bucks) because we were playing some other guys we knew. What a bad deal for them. The game ended up going into the 4th OT before it was ended.
Now to my point. I have never had so much respect for the NHL players in my life. Not only is my body completely worn down, I already know I am going to be sore for a week. These guys are playing with huge human beings every night, and taking a beating all season. Thank god we won because if we had not I would have been depressed for weeks. The fact that these guys can not just force themselves to play again a day or two later, but put that kind of loss out of their head amazes me. By far the longest game I have ever played in my life... all 20 minute periods and it came out to about 125 minutes with stoppages. Seriously, I respect every pro-athlete in the NHL so much more after tonight. I cant feel my legs right now, but they are going to be throbbing in the morning....
Just thought I would let you guys know how about a personal experience... my stance on some players really changed from this experience....
Sully has been allowed to negotiate with Vancouver... Good Bye and Good riddance... we may actually have a decent PP now next year!
I'm not really worried about Clowe's concussion to be honest. It was minor and he has the entire summer to recover. Concussions that keep guys out for months are what worry me.
you can't let concussions spook you away from every player. Cause every player gets them in this game. However, I trust Sather here and I think 2 years 2.5 mill is reasonable/will get done. He wants to stay and NO team is gonna offer more than 3 mill (if they're smart that is).
The NHL, like most human ventures, is short-sighted at best.
Players are bigger, stronger, faster and the human skull and brain remains the same. The NHL must make the rinks larger. However, they refuse to b/c they think they will LOSE revenue. This in spite of the fact that they are losing far more revenue when their stars don't play and have shortened careers PLUS the additional revenue lost by not embracing the international size rink, which facilitates very exciting and fast games that an entire untapped segment of fans may be drawn to watch.
And NONE of this has anything to do with the ethical point of doing it for the sake of the health of other humans.
Fucking stupid animals.
They need someone, maybe even two players like Clowe. I'd love to have Clowe and Bickell, or Horton, or Clarkson. But I think Bickell is the only one sans concussion. But, look at the bright side, if they have a concussion, you can negotiate a better deal! God, I want this team to be mean again! I miss the NYR's that grinded their teeth and hit everything that moved.
I agree. I've had a few concussions -- two playing hockey -- and each one takes its toll. Rangers need to err to the side of safety.
Sure, concussions are more prevalent if you've already had one, but if GMs are going to be scared of signing player because of that, there will be no NHL. I'm sure almost every player in the NHL has had a concussion, or more than one, at some point in their lives (diagnosed or not). Clowe would probably have to stop the enforcer bit of his role, but he can still be a very effective power forward.
Give this teams core 2 more years, if it doesn't work it's time for a rebuild. By that I mean everyone goes for assets except Stepan, mcdonagh, nash ( he is stuck), and Staal. Watching these last few years it is evident to me that if you don't win with a young core you never will.
Will be interesting to see if Sather can let him go and accept that it turned out to be a horrible trade or will he feel the need to bring him back to prove that it was worth getting the right to make him an offer before anyone else can.
Give him a miss. Health questions plus he's slow and doesn't score not to mention we'd have to give another second round draft choice for him. He'd likely be a healthy scratch on the Bruins and Hawks.
Clowe style of play that makes him effective will continue to male him prone to continued problems. I would pass.
@Betweentheworlds I'm still shocked that they are using the same helmets. I remember a few years back seeing Mark Messier w/ a newly redesigned helmet designed to limit the blow to the head from impact. It seemed great and I thought for sure that at least the rangers would be using them giving Mark's relationship and history. He had stated that the foam used in helmets today is the same foam developed back in the 50's and hasn't changed at all.
@TruBluEsp Concussions are always a concern for any player but a for a lower contact player like Nash it may not be as big a concern for a grinder/fighter like Clowe.
@Josh6 This is so true - I never played but I was a kickboxer at one time and these tourneys were kinda a similar grind. I always make it a point to remind people in these blogs what these human beings go through in this sport and what warriors each and every one is, especially when someone gets down on the players for what they call a "lack of effort".
@Josh6 Probably a lot easier to play day to day when you have millions of dollars as motivation. Half kidding. Your point is well taken though. Pro athletes are special, not only in talent, but also desire. It's what separates them from everyone else.
@cb1 but didnt he suffer two in less than a month?
@cb1 also a very good point.
@PenaltySh0t Acquiring concussion prone players has not worked out well for the NYR in the past. See LaFontaine, Lindros, etc. Not saying Clowe is at that level of repeated concussions, but I would be weary of any player who's had multiple concussions, as they get subsequently worse with each one apparently.
@PenaltySh0t true. philly may offer him 30 years 300 million though as they are want to do...
Not every player, sure. Just gotta be weary of the guys who make their pay in the trenches, like Clowe.
@jmacwilli that is such a great statement. Wonder if Cindy went down for the count if they would have acted. Losing Lindros, the man touted as the future greatest hockey player ever apparently was not enough (I don't know who played for us those couple years but that was NOT Eric Lindros). Must someone die? Let's start with better headgear rather than using technology from the '50s. larger rinks? We have larger players. duh. It just amazes me...
@jmacwilli Great point. And really, how many seats are you really going to lose vs. the amount of fans you gain from the more exciting play (like the Olympics, when ratings are very high - granted that's all-star teams that care about defense playing each other)
Absolutely 100% outstanding comment. Watch a game from '94, the game has changed so much, so much faster. Only a matter of time till someone's killed
I've been clamoring for a larger ice surface forever! These guys are wayyy too big and fast for the current surface size.
@gravey94 I'm not so sure he can be as effective if he can't continue his style of play.
@Josh6 pretty much true. not sure how things are going to be after next season given how many rangers are going to become UFAs. but yeah, looks like you gotta do it with a young core. one that is given the chance to fuck up, learn from it and bloom.
@pronasty71 Very true.
I hear you though, even when I played through college it was a beating. Looking back I wish I had trained like I do now though because I would have been 10x better lol
@AnnoyingJoe true, even players look smaller in the 90's. they make the nets look like theyre larger than normal. its odd looking.