Larry Brooks at the New York Post takes a look at the possible contracts the Rangers RFAs might receive this summer...
Ryan McDonagh (4 or 5 years between $4.5M & $5M per)
Derek Stepan (same term for a bottom line $4M per)
Carl Hagelin (shorter term between $1.75M & $2.5M per)
Mats Zuccarello (2 years at approximately $1.5M)
Brooks adds that if the Rangers don't buyout Brad Richards, their available $13.5 million of cap space will likely be used on these four players and the team will essentially be the same as last season.
...do the Rangers need to upgrade their lineup? Sure. But to be honest, if they go into camp in September with a similar line-up as last season, I won't be all that upset. Despite no training camp (which is essential for a Torts led team), a God awful season from Richards, a season ending injury for Staal, one of the worst power plays in the NHL, Callahan and Hagelin playing with separated shoulders, Kreider not living up to expectations, and Clowe basically missing the entire playoffs, the Rangers were still able to get to the second round and lose to a Bruins team that ended up embarrassing the Penguins in the Eastern Conference Finals and are currently giving the Blackhawks everything they've got.
...if Tortorella really was the problem then this line-up, under Vigneault, should be good enough to contend for a Cup.
...as far as the four guys above, I'm in agreement with most of the numbers Brooks is throwing out there. I'd probably like to see Stepan and McD's dollar amounts a little lower. And with Clowe's value plummeting due to injury, hopefully if the Rangers are able to sign these four on the lower end of Brooks' scale they'd be able to re-sign him on the cheap.
Brooks also reports that the Rangers are unlikely to extend a qualifying offer in order to keep the rights to RFA Michael Sauer (concussion).
...i can't imagine that Sauer will be receiving offers from any organization
if when he hits the open market on July 5th. Very sad.
Two weeks ago, the Rangers flew Sauer to New York for evaluations. The results of those evaluations were not released.
You wrote, "if Tortorella really was the problem then this line-up, under Vigneault, should be good enough to contend for a Cup."......... Did you watch any other playoff games??? Did you compare the 3rd and 4th lines of the Bruins and the Hawksand the Kings and The Sharks with what we have??? Did you notice the offensive positioning in front of the net and then ask yourself who besides Cally ever gets in front of the net for us????? When you watched the other playoff games who on any of the teams played like Richards? We got to get bigger and faster and meaner or we will never contend for the Cup. What say you, Kevin?
Although I think he is worth every penny, I don't think McD's agent can legitimize the Rangers giving him more money than Staal. Staal has a pedigree name, is an assistant captain and (at the time) was signed as a RFA with even higher expectations then McD right now. Also, the Cap is going down next year!!! Staal makes 4/per. There's no way Sather gives McD more. Too easy to argue otherwise.
$4.5M to $5M seems pretty high for McD. He's really good and has a ton of potential, but thats too much for a D who doesn't play the PP, doesn't have much of a shot from the point, doesn't fight, doesn't throw big hits, isn't nasty in front of the net, etc.
The numbers for the other three seem correct.
I was thinking almost along the same lines. for the RFA's. I had it as.
#27 - 6 years at 4.25 AVG for 25.5 Mil
#21 - 4 Years at 3.75 AVG for 15 Mil
#62 - 2 years at 2.25 AVG for 4.5 Mil
#36 - 2 years at 1.75 AVG for 3.5 Mil
It is going to be very interesting to see next year what Torts and AV do next year. It doesnt happen often, but they essentially switched teams, and both have a great club. It will be great to see how each of them does...
I'd like to see us get a better back up for Henrik. Biron is a good guy, no doubt, but has looked shaky in relief of the King.
McDoangh at 5 years $4.5M, Stepan at 5 years $4M...sign me up yesterday! Hell, I'd lock them in at 8 years! Hags & Zucc will get 2-3 year deals, most likely 2 as that seems to be Sather's MO. I would guess they'll offer Clowe $3.7 - $4M for 2 years and see how it goes.
Its a shame. Sauer would have been a top four d-man if he hadn't gotten hurt, think how this team looks with him, Girardi, Staal, and McD in front of Hank, plus the potential of Moore and MDZ. Then add a better offensive system under AV for Nash and crew. Man. Still can be a great team as we'll see what the young kids can improve on, like Kreider and Miller. Would like to see a little more grit though. Clowe adds that, but he is entering the concussion-a-week zone, maybe Dorsett can step up there.
richards need to go bc they need that space next summer.. risk of injury is far too high that they miss the window and get stuck then we will be trading away these guys to make space for Lundqvist and Cally
if you but out Richards and don't sign back mza then look at all the cap you have to mess around with in free agency! you can sign clowe and maybe someone like clarkson. I also anticipate some trades possibly involving Powe, Boyle, hopefully Pyatt andMaybe dz.
Richards needs to go. would you rather a close to our of date tough to chew 15 dollar steak? or would you rather 10 delicious hot dogs just the way you like them? give me the dogs!!!
You mean same lineup....minus Clowe. If we don't buy out Richards we definately lose Clowe assuming we sign all the guys mentioned above (not sure I'd want him at his salary demands anyway).
If we don't resign Clowe that deadline move is a disaster. We basically gave up a 2nd, a 3rd and a conditional 2nd or 5th for 2 weeks with a 2nd line winger....Brutal.
Contend for a cup with Pyatt, MDZ, Eminger, Powe? You must be smoking Sather's cigars. The existing lineup is a good ways away from competing with the Bruins, Hawks, Penguins, Kings, Redwings. How can u have an improved power play when you don't have a single player who can carry it into the offensive zone. It was embarrassing to see MDZ and Richards try to make it through the neutral zone on the pp without turning it over. Without adequate cap space, the Rangers are going to have to trade assets to get more speed and skating into the lineup.
Sather needs to buy out Richards and sign Briere for two years. This will help our scoring 5 on 5, the power play and also in shootouts. Richards future cap hit is too much to gamble with knowing that if he gets hurt next season, we can't use the buyout on him. He needs to go now.
I hope players like miller, kreider, lindberg, Thomas, and mcilrath are given a legitimate shot to make the roster.
@EHBIGAPPLE After the trade deadline the Rangers were 10-3-1, beat the hottest team in the NHL in the first round of the playoffs and lost to a Bruins team that embarrassed the Penguins in the Eastern Conference Finals. And they did that without arguably their best defenseman in Staal and a power forward in Clowe who would have had a huge impact in the Bruins series. So yes, I think the current line-up is good enough to contend.
@GiveGartneraCup Staal's contract is several years old by now, but I hear what you're saying. I think McD is in the same boat as guys like Carlson ($4M per, 6 yrs) Voynov ($4.2M per, 6 years) Hedman ($4M per, 5 years).
@gravytrain9 gotta lock up Stepan for more than 4...
"...to see next year what Torts and AV do next year."
When you put it that way i realize it would be even more interesting to see this year what they do next year!
@jslnyr1102 He has the BIGGEST FIVE HOLE.... Its humongous big... like its own universe big...
@jslnyr1102 Hank makes any back-up look shaky ;-) I'd rather spend the money elsewhere as I think Biron has been all you can ask for in a back-up. His GAA for the past 3 years is under 2.5 in all 3 years, and his SV% is above .900. Hell, he's been better than a lot of starters!
@gravey94 I'd rather go with a longer term with Stepan as well
@KevinDeLury Why have I got this feeling we are somehow getting the Sedin twins - They are in the last year of their contracts in which Van. is not interested in re-upping. They are not "Tortorella type" players. We can use a first line center. Unite them with their former coach. It all fits. We would have to buy out Richards, not resign Clowe, and..... who goes the other way?
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG agree on trades, think Boyle and Pyatt are gone. Hopefully look to free agency to add some other physical players.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG I have a post coming at 11am on a potential trade. People are going to lose their minds.
@Scott_from_Jersey That's a good point.
@shishya100 Chicago's PP is almost as bad as the Rangers this year AND in the playoffs, and they're 1 win from the Cup. We'd all love to see some PP success, but it's not critical to winning the Cup. Rangers are close to contending, but they need another couple of pieces, and, most importantly, they need to avoid injuries.
@shishya100 I thought Torts was the problem. Shouldn't Vigneault be able to fix power play with current roster?
@dave062069 Brierwold be a very high risk signing. Too many injuries and concussions. IMO.He would spend more ime on I.R.then on the ice.
@supermaz Lindberg will get his chance...
Lindberg is a beast. Do we think he needs a half season or more to learn the north American size rink? Also, Thomas is 5'9" and while everyone knows MZA is one of my favorite rangers, Thomas might be too small do this roster.
@supermaz i think only kreider and maybe miller are ready to begin next season in the NHL - the others (and perhaps Miller as well) will likely play in Hartford, maybe mid-year call-ups.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG as long as we are sure he is healthy
@shishya100 Having said that, I do think moves need to be made.
@_Jack If the Rangers buy out Richards, Lindberg would be a formidable replacemett at center. The Swedish elite leage is the closest leage to the NHL. as far as talent goes.
@KevinDeLury @Lordstanleybroadway Apparently no one on the Leafs are safe except Bernier, who they just got. Frankly, I don't want Phaneuf. Sure, he can lay some huge hits, but he's inconsistent and very erratic in his play. Plus, he carries a very high cap hit. The Leafs are in need of a top 4 defenseman, and they want to unload their current #1, what does that say about Phaneuf?
@Lordstanleybroadway Trade I was thinking about as Leafs have said Phaneuf is available.
@_Jack Did you see my post Jack?
Lindberg and fast are more ready than JT is at this point which is a good thing. Our young depth at center makes brad expendable. Get rid of him now I don't care if Philly signs him.