Pat Leonard at the Daily News reports that Mats Zuccarello has filed for salary arbitration.
The Rangers can still negotiate with Zuccarello until the arbitration hearing. Teams can't walk away from arbitration decision under $3.5 million.
...you had to figure it was going to get ugly with at least one of the RFAs. Glad it's Zuccarello instead of Stepan. I think ultimately they'll settle on a deal before the hearing.
Derek Stepan is not arbitration eligible.
It means day in, day out I dont think ZUCC has the talent to hang in this league...I loved THEO FLEURY, a true warrior
I guess the younger Ranger fans align with him because of his age...I dont think hes NHL material (proven in the playoffs and especially the Boston series)...
If Zucc does not like the award, Does he have to take it or does he have the choice to play in Europe?
I think Zucc was wearing that ring from Lord of the Rings during the Boston series - though he must have loaned it to Nash between shifts.
i hope they get it done before they go to hearing,maybe 1.5mill for 2yrs. tops.COM ON ZUC,DON'T PUT a negative wedge with you an rangers. be smart.
ok frodo and baby giraffe crossover. 'night
lets hope MZA gets past his larval stage...
stepan is top deal right now, if zuc stays; i'll say 1.6mill for 2-3yrs. i might be off here, but zuc shows guts, like the last fla. game. things always come together at the right time.
I seem to remember from previous years that once a player signs for arbitration other teams cant make an offer sheet? Im sure there have been a few NYR RFAs that were asked/encouraged by management to file in order to prevent offers in the last few years so not necessarily a sign of disagreement
well? let's hope he "plays big". hopefully a new system will allow him to create and make plays and score a bunch. my main concern now is if he gets "overpaid" in that it could bite into cap space that we all want spent on stephan.
This new CBA wrinkle changing the walk-away rights in interesting. Basically, they sign a deal before arbitration or they go to the hearing and are forced to accept the deal, unless the arbiter is smoking crack and gives him >$3.5M.
Either way, Zucc is a Ranger next year unless he gets traded or waived.
this might just shake up thing a little, maybe the rangers will add him to the see ya gone list.right now they need all the grit players they have.
I am torn over this. I've never been a big Zucc fan, but his numbers were pretty impressive in his limited time with the Rangers this past season. On the other hand, I'm not thrilled with a 5'7" guy in the lineup. Zucc plays with heart, but I would much rather see someone 6'3" with heart instead. JMHO.
I believe teams cannot walk away from any arbitrary ruling 3.5 mil or less. I don't see Zuc coming close to that. So if the Rangers cannot come to a deal with him first, they'll be stuck with him. The Rangers have a little over 3 mil beneath the upper limit of the salary cap with Stepan yet to sign. I hope they get him done before arbitration begins with Zuccarello. If Zuc gets too much. Stepans contract will put them at least temporarily over the cap. They may have to trade someone if not Zuc to get under the cap.
What does that even mean? I align with him because I love the work ethic the small dudes put in. I grew up playing ice hockey and idolized theo fleury because we are the same height.
@Paulie_F Has to take it if he ever wants to play in the NHL. Of course, he can get on a plane and head to a European league but he'll be most likely banned from ever playing in the NHL again.
@BetweentheworldsIf it goes to a hearing it will be. Player has to sit there and listen to team talk about why he doesn't deserve the money he's asking for.
Doubt he gets over 1.5 I hope he doesn't we need to resign Stepan still and as much as I want Zucc, Stepan is far more important than him right now.
@IcyCup He players bigger than most no matter how you look at him...
@jasonshyer Agreed, but it usually does if it goes to a hearing. Player has to sit there and listen to team talk about why he doesn't deserve the money he's asking for.
Can the Rangers ask for a crack-smoking arbiter? That might be ideal.
The rangers probably offered him the same as falk, which to be fair is not fair to zuccs even though I don't want him here. He just is trying to get a fair shake... He definitely wants to be a ranger. He loves broadway
Greed is not Zuccas thing. He loves to be a Ranger and I think they can get good value for not to much money.
@Rich Buser And just where are we gonna get such a player with the limited cap space we have? I think Zucc is a great fit, even with his size. He fears no Chara.
@NYRFan_RF1 ive never heard of that 3M rule before, is that new in the new CBA?
@NYRFan_RF1 Is that right? Crap. Let me check again.
@AG_Blue Think the NYR can refuse to sign him at the sum yielded from arbitration. Would just make him unrestricted instead of RFA. I think.
Now that Asham and Powe cleared waivers and are still on the team. As per Capgeek their full cap hits should go to Asham-$75k Powe-$100k while in Hartford. Is that right Kevin? The Redden rule applies over a certain AAV. No. Yes. I thought the did that to open cap space if not claimed.
Also the Rangers demoted Asham and Powe. Don't their cap hits come to $75k and $100k respectively once clearing waivers. Right now they're still there on NYR books.
@NYRFan_RF1This is an article from last season that says you can walk away. Did it change in new CBA?: http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2012/07/16/arbitration-explained-because-arbitration-for-dummies-seemed-too-harsh/
@Betweentheworlds @JMK8363 I like Zuccs. I want him to be a Ranger. But it would really mean we have to be an offensive team, not a grinding team. Hopefully under AV we can become that team and guys like Hags, and Zucs can step it up. He has an elite skill level, but his size brings him down to a solid NHL player.
@JMK8363 @kevinDeLury @FREE LINDBERG I agree to disagree with the decision by MZ's agent to file, think maybe he wanted to lock in with the team now rather than wait and see? I thought the team might have been able to net him for $1.4 on a 2/3yr given the cap and his desire to be a Ranger. We'll see. I do think they can get it done before a hearing but it would be nice if they actually based his arbitration on performance and not size. Just saying...He's shown he can play at a high level, he had the most tape to tape passes of any Rangers player for all the playoff games I watched, some of them beauties out of nowhere, but no one remembers that because his teamates failed to finish them. someone suggested his size makes him a career ending injury liability but he doesn't often get hit and besides whether your 5'7" or 6'7" you're head is just as fragile.. Avoids checks well, scrums, skates, doesn't back down,. good positioning, defensively responsible, HOCKEY INSTINCTS - everything you want in a professional hockey player. Yeah, he's really small for a hockey player but he's crafty (from what I saw this year) and minimizes the impact of his size deficit. Whether he becomes a high scorer or not I think his presence is going to be inspirational and uplifting for the team, especially for the up and coming future Rangers stars. Get this done!.
@NYRFan_RF1 Just fixed this in the post. Thanks for the heads-up.