One concern many Rangers have had the last few season regarding organizational depth is the dearth of top level goaltending prospects.
Henrik Lundqvist isn't getting any younger, so the process of grooming The King's heir apparent needs to start and needs to start now.
While Cam Talbot, Scott Stajcer and Jason Missiaen have had their moments and 2013 6th round pick in Mackenzie Skapski has some upside, I don't really see any of them as the answer.
However, the Rangers made a move yesterday that may have just answered our prayers as they signed goaltender Jeff Malcolm from Yale University.
The 6-2, 185-pound four-year Yale player finished his college career this spring by backstopping the Elis to their first-ever “Frozen Four” title in school history. Malcolm posted a 36-save shutout in the Frozen Four Championship Game, in which Yale defeated in-state rival Quinnipiac, 4-0. That performance, plus a 16-save outing in a 3-2 overtime victory over U. Mass.-Lowell in the Frozen Four semifinals, earned the 24-year-old Frozen Four All-Tournament Team honors.
In his four years at Yale, Malcolm appeared in 67 games, amassing a record of 36-21-4 with a 2.60 GAA, a 90.7% save percentage and six shutouts. Those stats rank him third all-time in school history in save percentage and wins and fourth in GAA.
Malcolm also participated in the Rangers prospect camp earlier in the month.
...i love the idea of bringing in a goaltender with championship pedigree. I also like that he's a four-year college player. Should be further along mentally and physically than the average 18-year old OHL prospect. He has only played 67 games the last four years, so lack of a large workload is worrisome.
...the Rangers current underwhelming crop of goaltending prospects should be very worried they'll be passed by Malcolm on the depth chart sooner rather than later. And who knows, if he can fight his way onto the Whale roster and impresses, he could find himself in the mix for the Rangers backup position next season when Biron's contract is over.
...so let's start this open thread by asking whether you think the Rangers will look to develop Lundqvist's future replacement from within or look outside the organization to fill the role?
Meanwhile, in other prospect news, 5' 9" free agent Sergey Tolchinsky, who impressed during the Rangers prospects camp, has agreed to play for the Rangers in the upcoming Traverse City (Mich.) prospect tournament in early September. He also participated in the Hurricanes rookie camp this summer and is looking for an NHL contract.
The 18-year old had 26 goals and 25 assists in 62 games with the Soo Greyhounds of the OHL.
...it sounds like the kid has a ton of skill, but aren't the Rangers done signing smurfs? Especially one from Russia. Can you say small, soft and lazy? How's that for a stereotype?
And finally, in a bit of odd prospect news, Alex Nunn at Pro Hockey News reports that Thomas Spelling (2012 - 5th), who played junior Swedish hockey last season (19 goals and 30 assists in 36 games), has decided to go home and play for SønderjyskE in Denmark.
...nothing says getting yourself NHL ready than playing in Denmark.
Ok, enough irrelevent prospect news. Here's your open thread, get after it.
anyone else see this today:
despite currently wrapping up a $1 Billion renovation, City Council voted 47-1 to not allow MSG to sign a lease for the arena space above Penn Station for longer than 10 years. There is a large contingent of people it seems who feel that Penn Station needs to be upgraded (can't disagree there) to meet the needs of NYC in hopes of drawing more people and business to the city.
First of all, I don't know what kind of leases other teams/areanas usually sign, and i recognize that MSG is unique in that its not a stand alone structure, its actually built on top of something else. But you're telling me James Dolan just went ahead and dropped $1+ Billion to update a building that up until today, he didn't even know how long he'd be in it for??? The Barclays center only cost approximately $5 Billion to build, so Dolan dropped 20% of the cost of a brand new arena just to fix up the one he may get kicked out of?? I realize thats a drop in the bucket for him, but really? Seems extremely risky. You'd think he would have signed a 15 year or more lease BEFORE renovations.
On a side note, for anyone who pays attention to NYC real estate and development, I though a few years back they were talking about moving Penn Station across the street to the old Post Office Building?
Stop the presses, I've found Lundqvist's replacement: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/07/anthony-weiner-time-to-pull-the-goalie.html?mobify=0
Seems like a decent prospect, but heir apparent? If they sign Hank for 8 more years, this guy will be 32 when Hank's contract is up. More likely they're hoping he's Biron's heir apparent.
Developing Hank's heir apparent from within would be their first choice I'm sure. Assuming they have Hank for 8 more years, which is priority #1, I'd say in 4 years they would have to gauge where their prospects are in the development process. If there are no high quality goalies, then I could see them making a Schneider-esque trade. Keep in mind though, the "heir" to the throne may not even be draft eligible yet. If I had to venture a guess, I would say the next Rangers goalie was either drafted this year or will be in the next 2 years. BTW, less than 1/3 of the 30 best goalies this past season were drafted in the 1st round, so a later round heir is the likely scenario.
To me it is very straightforward. Success in the NHL is simple:
1. Top tier goalie
2. Great system
3. Big, strong and fast youth
Spend on the goalie, as you need one of the top 5-6. Commit to a good program and then throw youth in front of it. The program should help offset the mistakes and growing pains of the youth, but the youth and size are absolutely critical in a game that is getting more draining every year! Trust it and let it play. Youth, size and speed within a good system with a great goalie will win far more than it loses.
Continue to fill the cupboards with youth and RESIST trading it for ANY position other than for a top tier goalie. Don't be suckered into spending your youth on any established player over 27...no matter how good he is. Even if it were the best player in the world the commensurate package of youth you would have to trade to attain him would be crippling. Talent is not a mystery where you can fleece someone for an established player. Everyone knows what the price would be for any established player because his performance is understood.
In reserving your own youth in this way you can make the big trade for a goalie that just revealed himself as a stud while not emptying your future pool.
Of course doing it this way means losing some (not all, but a lot) of your own players who are really good, but entering that big contract year after performing well for you for 5-6 years. Let them go. Let others give them the contract of which the player can only play at that level for half of. Bad ROI.
One can't look at the players as anything but commodities - and with the eye on a limited budget. Take the emotion out of it and follow this recipe. Get Ring. Rinse. Repeat. (Please forward to Glen Sather)
They mention that the Wolf Pack signed him, no mention of the Rangers or an NHL deal, wondering if this is the same as Jonathan Audy Marchessaeult who signed a deal with the Whale 2 years ago, but wasn't the Rangers property, so they couldn't call him up even though he was tearing the AHL up
Most goalie prospects are a gamble that only shows results when they are tested in pro situations.Good luck to this guy and to the Rangers,but keep on signing goaltenders unless somebody shows they are future Lundqvists. Hopefully we have Henrik for another decade aka Dominik Hasek or Martin Brodeur.
Bring on the prospects and let em play Will they televise Traverse city?-it could be a good indicator to Ranger fans of what prospects stand a chance in the NHL.Obviously a prospect like this Russian must have some other outstanding quality such as speed to make up for his stature.Strength and high skills are the hallmarks of NHLers.
As far as the Rangers prospects situation I was reading another blog and a list of them which shows right now we are doing alright in the prospect pool and can continue the way we have been building the Rangers from the farm.Next year I hope they get back to drafting 1st round carefully and don't trade away any high picks again for at least four or five years.
Well i think the Rangers should be developing a G for a couple reasons, possibly as future heir, but also as trade bait if Lundqvist is able to sustain his level longterm for the next 7-8yrs. A good goalie can fetch a decent price on the trade market. See Schneider and Bernier.
Not relevant to goalie discussion but just heard MSG has just received an eviction notice. They had 10yrs left then they're out.
It might be a little unrealistic to find a "replacement" for Hank. First of all, he's irreplaceable. Second, how do you recreate the diamond-in-the-rough/late-draft-pick situation that got him here in the first place?
Personally I'm leery of drafting G's early (see: TeePietro.) I say continue to draft the best players possible by skill, talent and potential, not by positional needs. Continue to develop what you have and, when the time comes, trade prospects for a G if necessary.
@gravey94 thats why its such a crap shoot. Lightning in a bottle twice and all that. It's tough to excpect to get even an above average goalie in the later rounds much less a Hall of Famer. By all means try but odds are they trade for one down the road while they wait and pray for the next Lundqvist-like draft pick
@jmacwilli So you would have bought out Richards.
@jmacwilli Good plan, but what happens if your yoots don't turn out to be as good as you thought? Would it just be rinse & repeat then, while your top tier goalie takes 3 years off his shelf life? There has to be the right balance of free agent signings, infusing youth, developing your own players, and trades. Teams that find that elusive balance, win the ultimate prize!
@thedude27 i think if it moves itll go where met life stadium was gonna go before they got denied
@thedude27 Eminent Domain - its in the constitution. Also, MSG is entitled to "fair and just compensation" meaning, they should receive a complete refund from the city. If not, I would imagine the Dolan's are going to sue NYC. After all, MSG is one of a few things:
A) Privately owned, and is one of the few buildings in NYC that actually IS privately owned
2) The worlds most famous arena
d) An iconic image of NYC
@thedude27 just saw this. wonder where they will move the building to. also, why the hell did the city allow the $968 million renovation only to evict them 4 years later?
I agree we will never see another situation like hank. I think we should trade or sign goalies. who knows this kid could be great but we will have to see. anyway, hank isn't retiring until he's 42.
@AnnoyingJoe I guess replacement was a poor choice of words.
@AnnoyingJoe @JamesU @GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG Ha, well done on your MB scouting report. I hear you and I considered that. But I honestly think Hank is one of these guys like Hasek, Belfour, Chelios, or Mess: freakishly competitive and just narcissistic enough to hold on for a long time--and that's not a criticism. He's got an athletic style, but he's not the most acrobatic netminder around; he's actually pretty efficient most of the time. A few tweaks to his game to compensate for age and he could theoretically go on for a while. Or he could turn out to have a body like Drury and turn to stone at 34. Who knows? But I'm betting he plays until 40.
I would say yes. If you have enough you are simply playing the odds and a percentage will work out. It is only when your pool is shallow that you notice when your youth doesn't pan out.
Hags, Stall, Girardi, Stepan, Cally, DZ (cough), JT Miller, Kreider... The Rangers have been doing okay and that is without being even really trying to get to the level of what I am talking about. They would likely have had even more pan out had they really committed to youth.
Look, by doing it the other way the Rangers have actually been horrible for decades with only precious few aberrations. How many years of Hank have already been taken off his shelf life during his tenure here doing it the other way? All but 2...3 maybe?
If you JUST focus on your own developing talent pool you will assemble the same ratio of average, good and super-stars as is out there in the world. The difference is they will all be young and serving you in their best years...and inexpensively. Trying to "beat" the system and poaching other teams talent, or free agents doesn't work....the cost is always too high in the immediate term and future. Reserve that tactic only for the goalie...the one position that can't be hidden and where youth isn't quite as important.
@Farmerjohn22 @thedude27 It will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next ten years. I really think that MSG can't be moved because it would have to move outside Manhattan or at least outside of Mid-Town and that would change the whole feel of the city and of attending Rangers and Knicks games. The location is part of the iconic status of MSG - if it ever moves both MSG and the city will lose. Penn Station should be redesigned in stages like MSG and should not have to displace the arena.