And the moment we've all been waiting for...
McIlrath will wear, Artem Anisimov's old #42.
...i couldn't be more excited about the recall, but I beg Rangers fans to temper their expectations as there will be major bumps along the way.
...he will make mistakes defensively, he will get beat to pucks and his skating will be exposed. But if anyone dares to even come near Lundqvist or the Rangers skilled players they will have to answer to the Undertaker.
...for that reason alone, his presence is essential to the success of the Rangers going forward,
"But if anyone dares to even come near Lundqvist or the Rangers skilled players they will have to answer to the Undertaker."
To me, this remains very much to be proven. Sure, that's what we want of him, and we've seen him stand up in the AHL, but he hasn't done it in the NHL yet, so I'll have to see it before I'm sold.
Now I know one of the problems is putting the puck in the back of the net but in lieu of Cally's injury, I would also love to see them move Dorsett to the 3rd line. He's shown decent skill at making plays and provides energy. Instead of Pouliot or Pyatt who both suck, call up Haley and put him on 4th line with Asham. Now you have even more toughness. Thoughts?
No worries. He can play responsible D at NHL level.
Plus finally some non goon protection for Rangers players.
I'm not a fan of Veeno. I did not want him as head coach....I would have preferred an "old school" coach. Veeno is more of a "new age coach". And these new age coaches don't truly understand the value of toughness and the art of intimidation. But before I go off on a tangent, let me try to stick to the topic at hand....which is McIlrath.
As I have said over and over again since I joined this board....and "old school" classic line-up..has three components.
2) The Middleweight
3) The Enforcer
We now have all three components. Dorsett as the instigator. Asham as the middleweight....McIlrath as the enforcer....but McIlrath needs to learn. I've seen him fight...he has a tendency to fight out of control...he tends to throw and twirl. He's often off balance. He will need to learn how to stay squared....keep his opponent controlled with one hand....he needs to work on the technical aspects....but that will come. Asham will be a great mentor for him.
I can relate very much to the spot that McIlrath is in right now. In my playing days....I made the the team because the coach was looking for toughness and an intimidator on defense. I played at 170-175lbs. Not too intimidating right? But I played with passion....and an attitude....nastiness. My coach always told me..." I don't care about the penalties you take, as long as the penalties send a message."
You hit one of my skilled players....you would pay a price. You planted yourself in front of the net....you would get a vicious cross-check to the back...or slash to the legs. The opposing teams forward coming into our zone to freely.....I'd give a player a good raking with the shaft of my stick. Make opposing players feel uncomfortable....make them think where i am on the ice.....when players "are thinking...they're not playing".
Veeno has chance to change the entire attitude of this club. Let Dorsett, Asham and Mcilrath do their jobs. You live with the penalties..."as long as the penalties send a message". And if you do this, the rest of team's attitude will change. They will play bigger.....become more aggressive. When you play tough......it is infectious.....in a good way.
It's time to become the Broadway Bullies. Don't screw it up Veeno.
This is why I love this kid. It is not the win....it's the smile afterwards
Curious if anyone else on here besides me has been listening to John Giannone's PodCast? It available on MSG.com and downloadable on iTunes for free.
He's done about 5 or 6 episodes with some really interesting interviews (Derek Dorsett, Jim Ramsey, Dave Maloney, Sam Rosen), but i bring it up because this past week he interviewed Jim Shoenfeld. There was a broad array of questions, which has been common, usually starting with questions about how a person go to where they are, or their history playing in the NHL, and then gets in to more pointed question about the person's role with the Rangers. Schoenfeld's conversation hit on two topics that have been prevalent on this blog the past few weeks. The first was the development of players in Hartford, and the approach that the organization takes that a guy like Danny Kristo, JT Miller, or Dylan McIlrath are better suited being exposed to their weaknesses in the AHL than the NHL to hone their skills and be ready for a call up.
2 other topics combined to discuss the Rangers lack of an enforcer. Giannone spoke with Schoenfeld about the process the Rangers go through in making a trade, discussing options, and strategizing. At the end of the podcast, Giannone takes questions from twitter. One of the questions was about the Rangers lacking and enforcer, and Gianone shared that in the game against Vancouver, after hitting Michael Del Zotto hard and a little high, Tom Sestito skated by the Rangers bench, who were saying plenty to him about the play, and simply said "Who's gonna do something about it?" Now obviously, Derek Dorsett eventually answered the bell, but we all know this team can't expect Derek Dorsett to continually go up against guys like Tom Sestito who probably have a few inches and a solid 50 pounds on him.
Just thought I'd share. It's recorded once a week, and its a nice way to fill a commute, if you haven't already packed your bags on this season and still want to hear Ranger talk.
I don't care if he makes mistakes...he brings toughness to a team that desperately needs it. There is a difference between a player being present on the ice, and a player being a presence. Right now the Rangers players are simply present out there. Maybe McIlrath can be the presence we so desperately need.
Fuck Yes.if his plys-minus is zero and he has at least one fighting major then he's had a good night.
I'm watching Chicago hand it to the Flyers tonight. Their little guys hacking and slashing at the puck in the corners, playing with pace, urgency, energy and confidence. It's beautiful. It's why I love this game. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I love hockey; and all I really ask of the teams I like is that they play with the same passion with which I watch. If they suck, they suck; if they lose they lose. This team embarrasses me.
DM may not be ready for the NHL, and he may be horrible in his first NHL stint, but good for him. The kid is a hard worker, has a good head on his shoulders, and I think a cup of coffee will help his confidence, not hurt it.
From what I've read it sounds like he's been coming along. He knows what to do, for the most part, but has to get his timing up to NHL speed. That can pretty much only be developed actually playing in the NHL. There will be bumps, but if he can get some games and survive the bumps, he just might make it. I won't be surprised if he gets sent back down, but if his whole game is going to come together, getting some games in the NHL is essential.
An AHL Goon. Why is everyone automatically thinking McIlrath can win all his fights at NHL level? I hope he can, but it's jumping the gun isn't it?Lotta knee jerk reactions and bizarre logic on the blog lately. Understandable given the current state of the team and the entertainment value of the games, but c'mon...relax. This roster probably isn'y going to be much better this year no matter who is on the AHL shuttle bus. Screaming for trades won't help cause we have little to offer and not much cap room. The roster is mediocre hence the mediocre record. Should they be performing better and with more passion?....HELL YES, but in no way is this current bunch anywhere near a playoff run. That's just crazy talk. Let's just relax and wait this sh*t storm out.
Like I always say - you can win the Cup with the Rangers on EA NHL14! (just turn the settings to rookie for this years roster so you can score)
O.K., they just got my attention again. Regardless of how McIlrath plays, he will protect his team, infuse energy, and make everyone else play bigger. Is that so hard for management and this coach to figure out? When he takes the ice, there will be a buzz, and isn't that what its all about?
welcome kid. oh yeah;Nash and Richards not scoring, Stepan totally disappearing, Boyle essentially turning into a 6'5" pinata, Girardi...well IDK, stone-hands Hagelin, poopsalot and Pyatt ('nuff said), Hank letting in softies, Staal and Callahan injured, a 5'5" Norwegian is ur best player...
couldn't be more excited.
Good luck kid.
Perhaps Mr. Blue drop a bit of faith in your jack this evening.....eh?
"Faith is to believe what I do not see; the reward of my faith is to see what I believe." - Augustine
@scrangersfan not if hes there for protecting his teamates
Agree - stay at home, clear the net. make the simple play. If he can just do that his mere presence will help this team
@McPhee37 i like what you are saying, i really do, and i agree. Especially with the distinction between old school and new school coaches and lineups. The issue we have is by getting tough here with Dorsett, Asham and McIlrath, we're coming out with an old school lineup while the rest of the NHL has evolved past that. In today's league, enforcers and instigators are also offensively able and defensively capable. Dorsett is such, Asham is borderline, his defensive abilities are a liability and we will still find out about McIlrath whether he poses a liability. Players today like Clarkson, Clowe, etc can skate on the 2nd or 3rd line and not miss a step but can also fight with the 4th liners. This might become an issue as we are sacrificing potential scoring (which we need) for the ability to enforce and defend. Also, keep in mind with bringing up Asham, it's not as easy to send him back down as he will have to clear waivers again and at this time of year, we might risk someone claiming him and inevitably he could be playing for his Ranger career tonight and moving forward. I do agree though with the need to play bigger and more aggressive and hopefully that demeanor catches on.
Hey George - nice to see you. Love your insider insights. What really gets my attention here is your comment "when players are thinking they are not playing". So simple yet so true. This lightning fast change on a dime sport we all love is way to fast to think. Teams that are successful have a simple game plan, or concept of what they are to do out there but when they hit the ice they let their hockey instincts take over. We have speed and skill we can exploit but nobody is throwing a monkey wrench into the other teams machine and we wind up getting manhandled. This "new age" coach needs to replace excuses with strategy and infuse a bit of "street hockey" mentality
@McPhee37 With a PK in the Top 5, we should be able to handle the penalties that come with the territory of being a little extra phsyical.
As far as Asham mentoring him, the've been in Hartford together for over a month, so I'd hope that that relationship has already started.
@Hotfreak Look how Chicago has built their team in the 2000s. They drafted incredibly well, picking up guys like Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith, & Crawford who are now the core nucleus of the team, and frankly, elite players in their own right. They also drafted great role players in the later rounds and even when the Blackhawks had cap issues after the '10 Cup, they traded their complementary players (Byfuglien, Versteeg) for great value while keeping that elite core of players intact. That's how you general manage a hockey team Slats. No surprise that Stan Bowman has done a great job in CHI. He learned from one of the all time greats.
@AveryYesBettmanNo He is no goon man. We are not expecting Leetch, we are expecting a crease clearing badass mofo. We have been saying we need one for 2 years now. I think you are the only one overreacting. We might not be better, but we will be slightly more fun to watch hopefully. Thats what we are hoping for.
@AveryYesBettmanNo Doesn't matter if he wins his fights or not, as long as he gets involved in sticking up for his teammates. It's a great message to send that a 21 year old rookie who barely knows anyone on this roster personally, is willing to stick up for the guys wearing the same jersey as himself.
@AnnoyingJoe 6'7" pinata*
in my jack?
anyway, i missed it. heard the result, but what happened?
You know your stuff! Stan Bowman is obviously a great hockey man from a strategic/GM perspective. He also did a Hall of Fame marketing job in a city that The Bulls owned for years. The whole city now embraces The Hawks again after years and years of cheap, tightwad, fan-hating senior management.He has turned Chicago into an organization that players do not want to leave........like Detroit.
yeah that makes sense so I guess we should be happy if he becomes a punching bag like Boyle that sends a great message
@JoshKaye @AnnoyingJoe You would think in all of the time Boyle and Prust hung out together, Prust could have worked with Boyle a bit on how to use that size well in a fight. Could we imagine what Prust would do with that frame? He probably would be shocked if someone told him he was barely six feet. one.
Duh. That shows me how spent I was when I got home. I mean, I don't actually drink Jack, but I should've known what you meant. But I don't get paid $8.5 million so I guess it's no big deal if I let up a softy now and again.
Thanks for the recap. Man, I miss Dubi. Sure is unclear what this team's problem is. It's not Torts!
@AG_Blue@EHBIGAPPLEjack for Jack Daniels, of course. I saw the game via Columbus Broadcasters. The King looked unfocused.....almost like he has some family/personal issues (and I have no idea.) He gave up 3 quick goals and was pulled for Talbot. Same lack "of compete." for the team. What surprised me was that Nash was invisible!......Dubi was very visible. He even got in "the undertaker's " face. McIll tried but he is not ready yet for NHL competition. He showed courage around the net but those 3 quick opening goals by The Jackets took any edge away from his play. I am not sure but it looked like he played only about 8-10 minutes.
@Stavier11 just because we are having a terrible week is absolutely zero reason to blow up this roster. Take a step back and relax! Sather also traded Scott Gomez for Ryan McDonagh. Sather might make some overpaying signings but he's been able to wiggle his way out of them. He also hasn't had the draft picks that Chicago has had. Chicago was one of the worst teams in the NHL from '00-'07 and they were able to stockpile high picks so there is no comparing. While Chicago, Pittsburgh and Boston were mailing it in complaining about no salary cap, Sather was fielding a competitive team and building a core and filling a depleted Farm system. He took over a team in 2000 that had ZERO homegrown players on their roster aside from Leetch and Richter (okay he had Manny Malhotra too). Also, take a look at the 2000-'01 Wolfpack roster, absolutely zero talent as well.
Sather must go, i want a passionate Gm ,not scared of being in our public eye. Strip thiis down to kreider ,miller,steph, and mcd, redo this core because this isnt working and will not work, we cannot give raises to these plaers.. Maybe colorado or edmonton calls for lundquist, I would listen The King is not going to get better. nash nice player but he needs to be on a great team, sad thing is 42 Jagr is better than him at half price.. I love the Ranger and the Fans, I would rather have a few heinekens and watch kids strive and build with th porper Gm coach program and lay a foundation for years to come, then to overpay and squeek to playoffs. We have to remind ourselves this a blue collar core! smaller, overworked, cally gerardi etc that are not gonn get better, Sj got a 2nd and a 3rd for clow ,,, we have pieces to help teams those return prosepcts and picks could really help the RIGHT GM ,,,Therefore SAther MUSt GO..I cant count how many coaches ,buyouts, mistakes ,bad trades , This man just coached those edmonton teams ,,he didnt pick those players!! God bless happy holidays
@BrianMineola 100% agree....it's why we drafted this kid in early round 1 when others projected him to be a later first
I'm seeing a lot of emphasis on fighting in these comments streams. I think that's missing the point of the Undertaker's value. He just needs to hold his own when he drops the gloves. that's all. Net clearing, well timed cross checks and nasty checking. Bringing the pain etc. these things on the ice send a greater message than fighting IMO and get other teams off their game
@AveryYesBettmanNo Very good point. My son watched him on hockey fights on NHL.COM and he said he didn't see anything special in him. He got as good as he gave, so lets wait and see what happens.
Also he can clear the net and play tough in the trenches. There are other ways to stick up for team mates other than fighting.
@AveryYesBettmanNo Even if DM becomes a punching bag, and it sparks another NYR to say, "what the hell? why are we letting this kid take on the world himself?" and that sparks the current NYRs to take it upon themselves to start sticking up for one another, then DM will have already done a great service as a NYR.
@AveryYesBettmanNo also, its not always about winning a fight, its about engaging in it. Boyle has heart, so what if he sucks at fighting. Look at Frodo sticking up to Chara in the playoffs.
Then Boyle should be even more embarrassed that he cannot use his size more than he does. Prust at 6' 7" with his ability would be the heavyweight champ of the NHL. I don't need or want Boyle to be that, would just prefer he doesn't look like a handcuffed drunk on COPS getting a beatdown. PROTECT YOURSELF FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE!!