A week and a half after floating the idea of the Rangers trading Michael Del Zotto to the Islanders, Arthur Staple at Newsday now reports that Glen Sather and Garth Snow had a conversation a few weeks ago, but the Islanders GM was not interested in a possible deal with their long time rival.
Staple adds that he doesn't know what the offer was, but insinuates Del Zotto was involved.
...as I said last week, I'd rather the Rangers keep Del Zotto and have him single-handedly prevent them from winning a Stanley Cup than trading him to the Islanders and see him become a dominant force for them.
...i'd love to hear what Sather was asking for in exchange if it was for Del Zotto. Ryan Strome (5th overall in 2011) would look real nice in a Blueshirt. lol
...a legit trade could be Del Zotto for Cal Clutterbuck. That guy hits everything that moves and would give the Rangers that physical element they're sorely lacking. Has three years left on his contract at $2.75M per.
Trade MDZ for Potvin....that way the fans don't have to continue to chant that TWO people suck - you know, save their voices for the end of the year when they otherwise couldn't get out a "You suck!" during a critical game. ....may pay dividends.
Del Z needs to get sent down and find himself.. Somewhere in there is a "kid" that can do it with a lot of bit of confidence!!
Pretty interesting thought here:
"Now that Vigneault is in New York behind the bench for the Rangers, we are seeing a similar phenomenon. Of the forwards playing at least 200 even-strength minutes so far, the top three in offensive zone start percentage are all Blueshirts: Carl Hagelin (47.8 percent), Brad Richards(47.2 percent) and Ryan Callahan (44.1 percent). Hagelin is particularly interesting because last season he started in the offensive zone just 32.7 percent of the time and scored 1.9 points per 60. This season, that has ballooned to 2.8 points per 60 with the better ice position.
Some may argue that players with a majority of their starts in the offensive zone score more because they are better players; the Canucks believed otherwise. When the organization needed to inflate the trade value of Cody Hodgson, they made sure to limit his starts in the defensive zone, cutting it down by almost 77 percent.
"That was by design," Canucks general manager Mike Gillis said at the time. "We put Cody on the ice in every offensive situation we could."
The Rangers may not be shopping Hagelin necessarily, but it does show that Vigneault continues to maximize the value of his assets by putting them in the best position to succeed."
Why didn't they just give them MDZ? that would have made us better and them worse!
Seriously I hear you Kevin, as long as there is any hint of him starting to find his game the Isles are the last place we would want him.
Clutterbuck is exactly the type of player we need right now.... Where do I sign?
We'll get the same amount of scoring out of him as we will Delzotto but he will have +500 more hits, +30 more fights and -900 turnovers.
We are now a win now team with hank signed in for the long haul and only a few prime years left and cal is definitely a role player suited towards it.
And who cares if its the Islanders... Its actually a boost for us when he turns over the puck 5-6 times a game.
I bunch of you are saying how Clutterbuck isn't enough for Del Zotto, but I was talking to a bunch of Islander fans on Twitter who said the exact opposite. They couldn't be more complimentary of Clutterbuck.
speaking of the fishsticks, Crosby just walked thru them for the OT winner last night. embarrassing.
Cal Clutterbuck? Overpaid 4th liner that's always injured. I don't care how physical he is, that is an absolutely horrible trade.
Give me Pulock, Martin, Strome, or Nielsen and I'll start talking.
Whatever the deal they talked about was, I'm pretty sure it was not a win-win. Can't imagine Sather giving them MDZ unless he got a damn good return, which was probably some of their recently drafted yoots.
Matt Martin would be a perfect fit. He is the type of 4th line winger who can bang--has led the league in hits or has been near the top in hits every year....and can handle middleweights and some heavies....also like some of their young heavies in the minors....gallant comes to mind
Clutterbuck or Matt Martin would be fine. Great picture of Clutterbuck looks like he does barbershop work during the off season
I can make up trades too...how about delzotto for Sidney Crosby and Malkin..everyday it's a new team and new player..let's talk about people who play for us who are 10 times worse then dz. like pyatt or pouliot there the real problems
@KreiderisTheChosenOne This is interesting and coaches use to do that more. AV dries me nuts with some of his decisions, lack of passion etc. but I know he has good coaching smarts and as a fan I'm not always going to get his rationale so I stick by him and hope for the best. These little things can make a big difference in the long haul. In this game you play the percentages. That's all you can do
@josh930 I wish I could say different, but the NYR are currently not a "win now" team. They are a team in transition. A lot of faces you see on the team today will not be here next year or the following.
I just hope Sather makes some smart moves/signings and we become a win now team sooner than later.
@Kevin DeLury To be honest I don't care who we get back im just done with the Del Zotto experiment. If he finds his stride elsewhere who cares dump him.
@Kevin DeLury yes but they're retarded.
@AnnoyingJoe Sid the kid... you may hate him, but no other player in the league scores that goal. Easily MVP right now
Even with the Hank signing we will be in a position to change the profile of this team after this season. A smart GM could make us winners. We have the key ingredient - the goalie, and a nice nucleus to build a defense around and KNS line should become one of the leagues best. There is great potential and all we need now is a smart GM. Damn! I know Dolan said he would never fire Sather but what if there was... say...... an accident???
@DPSnotty That is hilarious....guy looks like a throw back to the '50's
Yea, I can definitely agree with that. But with the signing of Lundqvist made the team a "win now" team. I'm not saying they will win but with just with the signing of Lundqvist makes the Rangers (Sather) get the necessary pieces around him very quickly given Lundqvists age.
The trade of Lundqvist would have gave us a little more time and money to put the necessary pieces in place minus and elite goalie. The Rangers are missing too many pieces to go for a run at the cup, therefore I would rather have seen a Lundqvist trade as much as I love him.
Aside from Quick, the last time I checked, Crawford, Nemi, Thomas and Flurey are pretty average and not in Lundqvists class, yet all have cups. They had the right players in front of them that could score and defend. They did not rely on a superstar goaltender to win.
In my opinion, the last time a team that won the cup that relied on an elite goaltender were the devils. But the game has changed since then.
I would have liked to have seen that much money to throw around in free agency with a Lundqvist trade, Richie buyout, and Pouliot gone
@IcyCup The Montauk Project. Wrong place for this but I have stories
@jslnyr1102 it's the greasy pomade...