The New York Rangers (15-14-0) defeated the Buffalo Sabres (5-21-2) by the score of 3-1, tonight. For a box core, go to Yahoo! Sports.
...the best thing I can say about that game is two points, is two points. Long stretches of uninspired and downright boring hockey by both teams, but as long as the Rangers came out on top that's all that matters. Having said that, the Rangers are lucky the Sabres suck, because they could have easily lost that game.
...so I guess it was the contract in Lundqvist's head. Talbot who?
...seriously, does Nash ever score a regular goal. Once again filthy.
...man, if Richards played every game in Buffalo he might actually be earning his contract as he now has four goals in the last two games in northern New York. Hmmmm, I wonder if there's any chance Sather can use that stat to sell a Richards trade to Lafontaine.
...nice to see Zuccarello finally learning that when you shoot, you score.
...are there two players in the NHL any more useless than Pyatt and Pouliot right now? Not sure how the Rangers can justify those two being in the lineup over youngsters such as Miller and/or Kristo.
...so much for John Scott imposing himself physically on the Rangers. Man he sucks.
...btw, this happened on Twitter tonight...
@TheNYRBlog That's our third jersey.— Buffalo Sabres (@BuffaloSabres) December 6, 2013
...apparently sarcasm is lost on the Sabres PR staff.
...special teams again lift the Rangers as their pk is now fourth in the NHL, while the power play continues to come up with big time goals.
...for all of our complaints about the lack of scoring and Lundqvist's "struggles," the Rangers are 12-7-0 in their last 19 games, after starting the season 3-7-0.
...at this point I'm just going to assume neither Callahan nor Hagelin is fully healed from their shoulder surgeries.
..."I cannot forecast to you the action of Brassard. He is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma." - Churchill
...five game point streak and points in six of seven games for McDonagh. What was Montreal thinking?!?!?!?!
...still not enough of an edge from this team. Can't remember a game this season that they came out and set the tone physically from the opening faceoff. Some passion please!!!!
...the Rangers have alternated wins and losses for the last seven games, so the key now is to start developing some consistency and string some wins together. Hopefully a nine game homestand will help facilitate that.
...and that homestand begins Saturday night against the Devils.
Post game talk...
Think we miss this???
Imagine that Hank is still playing for that little paycheck.
Kreider looks like Jim Brown running over players in 1960's and I can't wait for a end to end rush by Zuccarello. Are the Rangers paying some of those guys on 3rd and 4th line and why is Richards on point on PP when he seems to score all his goals down low? Truthfully he scare me back there.
Cally is on a contract year, doesn't anyone get it? He's CONSTANTLY getting hurt, including this season with the broken hand. I'm not saying he's dogging it or anything, but it has to be in the back of his mind that another serious injury could derail his chances of getting a big, long term deal from the Rangers or from someone else. I'd like to think that if he were locked up and set he would return to his relentless, borderline reckless, style. That said, I'm not sure I would commit a long term, big money deal to him during this season and I don't think the rangers will. So he needs to realize he has to get back to his "normal" style or his tenure with the Rangers will end this Spring. Hagelin not using his speed consistantly, which has nothing to do with his shoulder. Personally, I think he's one player who is greatly affected by the modified icing rule. I loved watching him go all out and beating people to the puck, creating extra opportunities game in and game out by doing so. Its also hurting Kreider. He's catching guys at the dot 3 or 4 times a game and its blown dead and comes back to our end for a faceoff. I fucking HATE this rule. We all know the team lacks size and grit, but it has plenty of speed, and I think the modified icing rule plays way in favor of bigger, slower teams.
yeah callahan is really not helping anybody out by playing. if he's not hitting everything that moves, he's just not effective at all. take another month off and get better
Ugly win, but to quote a great man..."two points, is two points". Amidst the ugliness; Richards - G & A, 2nd star; Nash - 1G 3 shots, 1st star; Stepan 1 A; Brassard - 1A 3 shots; Zucc - 1G 1 A, 4 shots; Hank - 27 saves. I seem to remember something that the coach said recently about the top players stepping up. Maybe they've taken it to heart. Yes, I know it was Buffalo, but as bad as they are they've given up 6 goals twice to Anaheim and 5 to Boston, and they've played some pretty damn good teams. It's fairly common for good teams to play down to their competition because there's simply no driving force. The next 2 should be good gauges for this Rangers team to see if they can raise their level.
Sather needs to make a trade for Ott today. that guy is such a force. if we have him on the 3rd line and Dorsett on the 4th a lot of our physical issues will vanish.
I can't believe were actually going to come on here and start criticizing HOW Rick Nash scores goals. Are you kidding me? The only legitimate All Star forward we have makes a legitimate All Star play against one of the best goalies in the league and we're going to rip him apart for it. Zuccarello skates through a weak Buffalo D and scores on a wrister and we're ready to throw him a parade. Rick Nash does it and we call him soft.I'll come on here and rip Sather all day for putting together the most over-priced, under-productive 3rd and 4th lines in the league, but I'm going to leave Rick Nash alone for now. 4 goals in 5 games, finally starting to show some chemistry with Step and Kreider. Considering how bad this team could be, I'm keeping my mouth shut. Did he have opportunities late in the Winnipeg game and wasn't able to capitalize? Sure. Same goes for the rest of the roster, game in and game out, that's why we're mediocre. Do I wish he'd score more wrist shots from the slot on the PP, and off of possessions in the offensive zone? Sure. But his goals in Vancouver and Boston weren't clear cut breakaways against bad defenses. They were quality hockey goals against good teams.
Worlds with the Steinbeck reference yesterday and now a Churchill pull to start the morning? Hey the Rangers may stink, but we have the most erudite blog going!
Here are some truths:
1. Hags and Cally will never be the same. I said this last year bc of the shoulder injuries. It just is what it is. One surgeon equated repairing the small muscles in the shoulder as trying to repair wet tissue paper with a thumbtack. Yes, it can be done, no, you are never QUITE the same. This ain't a knee, or a hip, or an elbow... Sorry. I speak from my own experience as an athlete, opinions from the best surgeons in the world and assembled opinions of dozens of athletes both amateur and professional.
2. I watched the Bruins last night (what a great team) and have been watching a lot of the West. The Rangers are not even close. I don't give a crap what the scores are, if the Bruins lost last night, or if the Rangers ever play them close. It ain't close. Those teams are FILLED with hockey players. The Rangers are simply playing hockey. Love 'em. Gonna cheer for 'em. But it ain't close and won't be until the Rangers make some major changes.
3. James U below is right. Nash is A-Rod. He is a joy to watch poach goals on weaker teams, OR during weak moments in a game. He looks SO good in those moments when he capitalizes on a huge advantage that it leads you to believe that he IS that good. He is not. THAT good does it when there is no advantage. He is fool's gold.
4. The Rangers success is determined by the GM not the coach. The Rangers are not filled with hockey players. They have very few, if any. (Zucc's, McD...) This is not AV's fault. Nor was it Torts fault. In fact, when Tort's tried to force them to become hockey players they literally whined him out of town. This is Sather's blunder - as it has been for over a decade. Fans focusing on the coach are as shortsighted as fans who blamed Mark Sanchez for the Jets woes - a QB who with a better cast took the team to TWO AFC Championship games. Yes, Sanchez looked horrible trying to make things happen when there was nothing around him - JUST AS ELI HAS THIS YEAR. Fans are not bright (other than here apparently - Churchill, Steinbeck?). The coach doesn't move the needle THAT much. He can't make bad into good. Sather may be largely immune to his own ineptitude because Dolan has the brains of an average fan and is likely distracted from nuance by anything shiny. We as fans will suffer until at least one of them is gone. Still....miracles can happen. People DO win the lottery. So until then, we will watch anyway.
The Hobbit is quickly becoming my favorite Ranger. Love the way he plays. Will also be happy when Dorsett is fully healed and can replace Pylon or Poopalot. Those guys are just awful.
Callahan must be injured or way out of game shape.He seems to be struggling to get in the game.He is useless right now. Hagelin is not his usual self either as far as that goes.Must be a reason at this point -laziness? not healed up? As for Brassard-hes not playing as good as we've seen him, but he isn't nearly as much of a problem as Cally and Hags.
Eh, I wish Nash would score more regular goals. Yeah great, tonight he scored a beauty by skating wide around a weak D and dangling across the crease. Try that in Boston and he'll receive another concussion. I swear, If he has 30 goals this season, 28 will be showstoppers against bottom feeders.
Brassard is better when he tries to do the impossible plays. I know the general rule is to shoot when you have the chance, but that doesn't seem to work for him. And he did pretty well in the playoffs passing the puck. He only had two goals but was the leading scorer by a big margin.
Missed the third but glad they pulled this one out.
Hank beaten glove side high to lose the shutout? Shocking...
They were saving there energy for NJ and Capitals. Two big games this weekend. I think it will be fun watching those two imported games.
That quote about Brassard is very accurate... but one thing I got from him last year is that on the biggest stage he turns his game up. Remember he was by far our best player in the playoffs last year, so hopefully he can get some more consistent hockey going soon.
As for tonight, really terrible game, and very lucky we were playing the Sabres... And hey Cally you dont start playing some hockey you are going to end up out there, which should be incentive enough.
Two HUGE divisional games this week... OBVIOUSLY Hank in for both AV
Good game to cure insomnia. I've always been high on the Zucc - first their enforcer, then set-up guy and now their sniper. Anything the hobbit cannot do lol. Richey scored right after I posted the word "Munn" on the pre-game blog. I'm taking full credit for that goal! A typical yawn filled night on "The mistake on the lake" Go get em "Depew Douche bags". Next mission: Exorcism!
Cally hurt his repaired shoulder. I understand the contract theory but he came back playing that borderline style, then got checked hard one game up high (I forgot which one) and then basically stopped hitting. Excellent points on the icing rule. Sux
@gravey94 In the words of AV: You don't criticize a win!
@johnAMIRANTESrug Ott's cap hit is almost $3M. Buffalo is not going to take anyone from the Rangers roster unless they are young and cheap. How would you get rid of the $3M to make room of Ott and who would Sather trade?
Apples and oranges. 1. Zucc may disappear at times, but it is NEVER effort, or heart that is lacking, rather physics. That is NOT the case with Nash. 2. Zucc is a fringe player being paid little who succeeds despite his size.
Nash isn't being criticized for how he scores his goals, nor for how much money he makes. But it doesn't take more than a set of hockey eyes to tell you that he is simply overrated and accumulates much of his stats in the way stated. And...BTW, perennial all-star means shit...so was A-Rod and aside from one year he was ANYTHING but a player like Ortiz.
Yes...Nash's goal against the Bruins IS they type of goal that a player of his rep should score and they do, regularly. Not Nash. That is the point.
Cap + smart GM = Good teams
Cap + NY GM's + or Money = Rangers, Knicks , Jets, Nets, Mets...well you get the picture. Islanders in their own world of problems.
@Say my Name you're right about the coach. it ain't college bball, it's the nhl. systems, etc don't create goals, players do. it does help to all be on the same page, but the bottom line is, we just needed a coach who's not an asshole, and we got the right guy. Ott had a great tryout last night, yikes
Say: I think your assessments are pretty accurate though somewhat over stated (at least I hope so). In the case of Sather all too accurate. A tough guy as a player building a soft team? WTF?? Yeah this year's a long shot but maybe we're just good enough to have a chance at pulling off a miracle. A lot depends on how the team gets tweaked moving towards trade deadline. Shoulder surgery? Gabby has not been the same either, but he's a sniper. Hags is all about the legs and Cally is "robo-warrior" so the impacts with those 2 should be minimal but as soon as Cally stops hitting everything on 2 skates you know something's up. Nash has all the tools, and goals against Boston and Van. suggest that it's not just weaker teams he can score against. Just raise the level of heart and soul a notch and he can be that elite superstar we all hope for. Now, after this year we have all the FAs. Who stays? Who goes. With a top 5 goalie, McD at the core of a solid D and the KSN line this is a good nucleus to build a championship team around with Sather at the helm ... Uh... Oh God! I'm not holding my breath.
...after making a terrible play with the puck behind the net, even more shocking! It took a bit of a Buffalo bounce in the corner, but once again, he leaves his D completely stranded by aimlessly firing the puck around the glass.
@Say my Name i dont know where i was trying to get with my response, and I'm having a hell of a time trying to post things on here today, cursor is all over the place, things won't delete. Just a crap shoot. But I love the banter and the passion on here, I just feel like if Nash is going to score 4 goals in 5 games and make us look like we finally have a top line, other players deserve criticism before we start picking apart "how" our star forward is actually getting it done. Maybe that's just me.
@Say my Name I don't disagree with anything in particular that you're saying. I think after last night's win, Hanks extension, Nash showing up on the score sheet on a more regular basis, I just woke up with a "beggars-cant-be-choosers" mentality. We say Nash doesn't score enough, then he does, but the goals aren't always "dirty" enough, then they are and we'll find something else wrong with his game. It's the curse of always having something to live up to, just like A-Rod. I don't follow much baseball, but A Rod always put up numbers, always had the stats, but was never "clutch", so I get your point comparing him to Nash.
Yes, almost every single player on this roster except for maybe McDonagh has at least one more "gear" above the level they're playing at right now, and have yet to play at that top level consistently. Nash is probably paramount because he gets billed as a game-changer, just like Hank.
Well said. I keep any youth with skill AND signs of heart - has to be both. The aged, or broken, or heartless....all go. That means Staal, Girardi, Cally (hopefully trade them at deadline, I mean really will their loss be felt so severely?)
Given that under Torts, I often felt like our guys were re-playing the London bombings, I found your reference apt.
Kreids is really stepping up in all aspects. Cally's tweaked shoulder leaves him useless except for an occasional snipe or 2 so someone's got to do the hitting around here. Actually one other player did follow Kried's lead - Zucc!! (unfortunately he bounced off the players and wound up in the 2nd row...
@johnnyb3910 @gravey94 @johnAMIRANTESrug Not sure they'd take MDZ and a pick, or that the Rangers would give him up for Ott. Buffalo is definitely trying to stockpile picks so it would probably take a couple from the Rangers. Keep in mind though, Ott is not Mr. Durable either. He's missed a good number of games the past few years, much like Cally.
@Say my Name Ha, sorry, misread your last post, thought it said it was on your short list of places to visit, as in you'd never been there.
Love it. Been there tons. Spent most of my youth in Newburyport MA on North Shore. But only in Boston proper several times in the past few years. I will def hit you up. Great sports town. better than NYC in that respect.
@Say my Name It's an amazing, beautiful city, If you ever go (and you absolutely should) and need some tips on things to do, let me know. I lived there from 18 years old to 28, and it was an exciting time to be a sports fan in that city. But at the end of the day i grew tired of 0 degree mornings and 3' of snow.
Awesome post. I'm a huge city of Boston fan and it is on my short list of places to live - great town. I have loved the Sox since the Rice/Yaz/Pudge days and completely admire the Bruins. I root for them unless they are playing the Rangers. You are spot on with everything. I wish the Rangers could create that sort of organization!
@Say my Name god that was long but i couldnt get it to do seperate paragraphs...
@Say my Name I lived in Boston for 10 years before moving down to Florida a few months ago. I've seen/been to tons of Bruins games, know tons of Bruins fans, and know exactly what you're talking about. They were usually my default once the Rangers would get eliminated from the playoffs. It's funny, I will say that when we met in the playoffs last year, a lot of Bruins fans were nervous about playing the Rangers, they honestly felt we had a chance, but maybe they were just avoiding a jinx. But I think they just knew that Lundqvist could steal a series if he wasn't wore out. They play a very desirable style of hockey from a fans perspecitve: rough and tough, don't put up with sh*t, but can also put up 5-7 goals if thats what the game dictates. Their cup series against Vancouver was beyond entertaining for a hockey fan. I posted a long narrative about the Penguins Cap Structure and how they build their team. The scary thing is the Bruins are built (salary wise) similar to the Rangers, but they just get so much more production. Gergory Campbell vs. Brian Boyle, production wise, is night and day. Also like Pittsburgh and Chicago, they have appeal. Jarome Iginla is playing there for 1.8 mil. Sather would have had to pay him 4 to come here. I remember guys like Mike Rupp saying he "wanted" to play for the Rangers, they way they had turned the organization around. But its one thing to attract 3rd and 4th liners, because not only do they know theyre playing for a good team, they know theyre going to get overpaid, and waited on hand and foot by the MSG Staff. It's a pretty nice gig to be a journeyman player to come here in your 30s on a 2 year deal to end your career. The Rangers have yet to "Attract" high end talent at reasonable rates.
Yeah...me too. I think Sather jumped in somewhere and is trying to make the site work better and this is the result.
I totally agree with you Johnny....beggers can't be choosers. Still, I want a good team to watch. I watch the Bruins and I'm so drawn by their players and how they play, then I turn on the Rangers and it looks like a different sport. Kills me.
No. Not if they can make up and exceed the talent of those guys. In today's game youth is the way to go. Older guys are playing hurt, have repaired shoulders etc. and half the concussed players are never the same afterwards. It's a huge opportunity year with all the FAs - Richey buy out. Nash and Henry are the only dogs of contracts so it would probably be smart to start shipping guys out as rentals and getting some youth and picks, and make smart off season moves, that unless of course the Rangers find themselves before the trade deadline. Too bad we are stuck with Sather - maybe Gorton can step in more for a rebuilding process