It's real easy to point to Chris Kreider's hat trick or Cam Talbot's goaltending as the most memorable moment of yesterday's 5-2 win over John Tortorella's Vancouver Canucks.
But to me, the best moment was after Tom "Fantasy Camp" Sestito tried to decapitate Michael Del Zotto then asked the Rangers bench what they were going to do about it, Derek Dorsett more than answered the bell for his teammate and team by doing this...
John Giannone of MSG Network reported that five seconds before the fight, Sestito had skated past the Rangers bench and whacked Rick Nash on the stick.
...i tell you what, Dorsett is filling that Prust role more and more every game. Earlier in the season, I wasn't sure if anyone on the Rangers had the guts to stickup for a teammate. Now I know without reservation that they do.
...however, the big difference between Prust and Dorsett is that Prust had Mike Rupp in the lineup to do most of the heavy lifting. Dorsett is on an island by himself out there. He shouldn't be fighting guys twice his size. Sather needs to address that.
...i don't think I can overstate how important a fight like this can be for team chemistry and comradery. Add in Justin Falk's snarl on the blueline and dare I say this team might be finally showing some toughness.
Speaking of guys who shouldn't be fighting...
...the first thing I thought when I saw this was poor Brian Boyle. Bieksa was looking for someone to take his frustrations out on and unfortunately an unsuspecting Boyle was the closest Ranger. After the Chara tussle this was that last thing Boyle needed.
...although, those lessons Boyle has been taking at the "Aaron Voros School of Fighting" seem to be paying off.
...and what's up with Bieksa drop kicking Boyle's helmet? This is hockey not WWE.
I've been a Dorsett fan since he first started playing like this in Columbus. I don't like saying I told you so, but, well, I guess I do -- who doesn't? :)
He just skated right over to Sestito and started punching. He has no fear.
He's an excellent skater, too, and a decent passer -- at least mentally. If only he had a little magic in the stick....
Boyle needs to "wax on, wax off" and learn how to fight. Again, I was at this game. This was Vancouver being bitter, and this was disrespectful. That being said this was nothing compared to Sestito's hit on Del Zotto. He screamed on his way to the bench "show me someone who can do something about it". The answer was .... Dorsett.
Look, I like Dorsett. And I loved his attempt. But, that's not payment for a bad act.We need a bruiser, and an elite scorer besides Nash, and we win the cup. Done.
Glad to see people coming around - Dorset is no heavyweight, but he is a team player and it's nice to see the fans catching on. He takes a few penalties now and then and certainly had a couple bad ones early on when he was trying to show his worth, but he actually has good hands and if we can get a heavyweight to back him up that will make for a good 1-2 punch! He actually shows better puck handling than Prust ever did as a ranger...
I completely respect Dorsett, but its total BS that the guy is the lone Ranger ( no pun intended) who can actually mix it up. In fact, it's absolutely inexcusable. The fact that Sestito called out the entire Rangers' bench simply means that the entire NHL knows what all us Ranger fans know. Sather has built a team that is far too soft to go far and compete with teams that are not soft.
This game should be a wake up call to Sather to get off his ass and get us some damn muscle.
..."however, the big difference between Prust and Dorsett is that Prust had Mike Rupp in the lineup to do most of the heavy lifting. Dorsett is on an island by himself out there. He shouldn't be fighting guys twice his size. Sather needs to address that.."
Guys who can garner respect by being good with their hands and play solid defensively and also chip in 5-8 goals cost about 2k-2.5k per year on the FA market.......just ask Prust. The other possibility is to grow them down on the farm......not so easy. Getting them in a trade would in most cases be a pleasant and unexpected surprise. Teams don't give away this kind of player. And this kind of player doesn't leave Cup winners who are built to win the cup again.
This leads me to think last year could we have dealt for him and moore but not included brassard or gaborik
does Dorsett remind anyone else of chuckie?
Sestito is such a scum bag. I wish McIlrath was up, he'd have been out cold.
Either way I freaking love Dorsett.
I think we could see Justin Falk slowly evolve into that heavy lifter role in time. Right now I think he wants to focus on playing a consistent good game since it seems like if he makes a mistake he'l be the guy taking a seat next game. I think it's becoming more important that we keep Falk in the lineup. As much as both Del Zotto and Moore have offensive potential, we need someone who can slow things down and bring a bit of snarl when the time comes. While I was hoping Falk would drop the gloves yesterday, I was completely fine with him shoving, pushing, and just getting in other players faces.
Also, can we talk about how Zucc destroyed a guy on an awesome hit early in the game?
Rangers need a legit heavy - I can't watch Boyle get dragged around again , or Dorsett step up in class an weight in every throw down .
While Dorsett's actions were admirable, he is in no way anything close to Prust. Sad actually that a man of his size has to be this teams's "enforcer". We need some real brawn. Bring Colton back to the Garden. LGR!!
It's nice that he stands up for his teammates but the Rangers need someone that can go toe to toe with the heavyweights.
If they like the way Mcilrath is developing I don't think they'll make a move for anyone. Maybe a waiver claim on someone to hold as a healthy scratch but they definitely shouldn't trade anyone other than pyatt or pouliot for an enforcer.
Obviously team toughness has been a huge topic of late with the Rangers showing little backbone on a consistent basis. Dorsett is the only one that consistently stands up for the team. After Sestito calling out the team with his "show me anyone" comment, Dorsett not only answered the call but almost knocked out the bigger man when he stunned him with a left hook to the chin. That was awesome, but most fans say it's not enough to go the distance.
Most fans understand that an enforcer is a waste of a roster spot at this point. The enforcer is a dying breed because the league is just too good now. You have to have tough guys, but they have to actually be able to play too. We don't need an enforcer -- unless it's a short-term rental while they try to put a tougher team on the ice -- we need some more size and toughness. It was great when he had Dubinsky banging around out there, even when he wasn't putting up points anymore. And then, of course, we had Prust, who isn't a heavyweight but is one of the most skilled fighters in the league.
Don't even mention Bickel anymore. He's not NHL caliber. Mashinter could be developed into this player. He has decent skills, he just hasn't been able to bring his game to the NHL level, but I'm rootin for him. Haley isn't a bad player either and he's a tougher opponent than Dorsett even though he's also not that big.
Bieksa should be disciplined for kicking the helmet. For some reason, Boyle doesn't throw punches and should really learn how.
Some of the fans out here, when they're calling for an enforcer, sound like they should be fliers fans instead. We want a team that can win, and you won't win with a goon squad. We're close to having a winning team here, just a couple key changes could potentially do it. We should see some change during the season and probably even more over the summer.
people complain that he doesn't win fights, but to me it's more about the fact that he doesn't back down, and doesn't care who the opponent is. He'll stand up for the team and I gotta commend him for that.
One trade away from acquiring that player to get us through. To be honest it will require dismantling part of our core. Who goes remains to be seen but it's gotta happen. Still have some deadweight on this team.
McIlrath looked well out of his league during the pre-season, but all reports indicate he's coming along. I'd have to see it to believe it. I'm skeptical. It's also tough having a defenseman in the penalty box for long stretches, but I hope it works out for us and McIlrath just the same.
@AG_Blue AG, I agree with everything you say except the "We're close to having a winning team here" part. We are solidly in the 3rd tier of NHL teams right now, where only the 1st tier has a chance at the cup. We'll be over .500 this year (barring crazy injuries) but we don't stand a chance against the Bostons and Pittsburgh's of the East or any of the 8 top teams in the West (hyperbole intended).
Absolutely. 'Say My Name' has made several good points on this topic, but one of his best comes in the form of question: "Why are we in love with our 'stars' when they haven't won shit?"
This organization could make some changes ...
Good catch. I can't claim we're close, but a couple of the right moves and we could be.
@KreiderisTheChosenOne Thank you for saying no to Bickel. I've seen him name come up way to often to the point where I'm getting ready to start punching people.
If Callahan isn't injured... He could be on the first train out if he continues this play. No way he is worth anywhere near 5 especially with his injury history
it's an unpopular view, but a sound one