Update, 11:27 a.m.:
Checked: no hearing scheduled for Michael Del Zotto. Rangers are in Carolina tonight.— Elliotte Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) April 6, 2013
...wait, Shanahan siding with the Rangers again (see Nash high hit). Quick someone check to see if hell has frozen over.
In the third period last night Michael Del Zotto dropped James Neal with an elbow that forced the Penguins forward to leave the game with a likely concussion...
Here's Del Zotto on the hit (via NY Post)...
“I knew I was going to get hit and I just tried to brace myself and reverse it. I’m not sure what happened, but I hope he’s OK.”
So the question is, was it dirty?
...absolutely not at all. Del Zotto had his head down and his back to Neal. Not sure how anyone can call that intentional. Unless you think Del Zotto literally has eyes in the back of his head.
...now having said that, as Del Zotto mentions he knew Neal was coming, and was obviously trying to block him off from the puck. So Del Zotto could have been penalized at the time for a wreckless elbow, but no way he's getting suspended for it.
@TheNYRBlog must say I was impressed seeing Zuc get in Cooke's face during the bench feud. Little man has fight in him.
@TheNYRBlog pretty uncomfortable being one of about 7 total Rangers fans in that building when that whole sequence went down.
@TheNYRBlog regardless of the elbow or not, he left his feet. He's a punk.
How can you guys really say that MDZ was not looking? - he saw the line Neal was taking and threw out his elbow - intentionally...same as if he had stuck out his leg or stick, but you know that there is very low tolerance, even for borderline calls, when the head is the initial point of contact.. We can argue about whether he "intended" to hit him in the head/face, but anyone that says that MDZ was not trying to hit him needs to take off the red, white, and blue glasses... forget about all the other hits and what Cooke and the Pens do - its sounds like Crosby whining. Just hope he does not get suspended, which I don't think he should or will (but then again, I thought Nash would get the chair).
I'm not sure how you can say he did what he had to do but say it was not intentional...there is absolutely no reason to throw his elbow back like that. Did he mean to hit him in the face? I'd like to think no...but definitely meant to clip him. Should have been a penalty. Yes there were tons of missed calls on both sides...and steigerwald is the worst homer ever.
intentional or not, Neal got what he deserved!!! what goes around comes around. Was it just me or did anyone else see the top 10 hits on the pens feed, shows neal throwing the exact same hit on Hamonic, only thing was Hamonic didnt lower his head to kiss neals elbow and the pens commentators thought the hit was funny,, if you youtube james neal it shows what kind of player he is, hes a dirty player .. check out the hits on Prucha, Couturier and Dorsett ... dont like to see anyone get injured while playing hockey but god damn he had something coming to him sooner or later ... thinking Dorsett wants a piece of him next time they play and just wanted to mention i dont understand how a team like the pens can complain about anything when they employ a dirtbag like cooke, i understand why clowe didnt drop him infront of our bench but damn i would of loved to see it happen, cooke has a long list of hurting guys, McD, Savard, karlson and thats just in the last couple yrs. I hope someone takes him out with a Elbow, i'd have a huge smile on my face for days!
@TheNYRBlog I for one was glad MDZ was playing with some "piss and vinegar" to his game. Curious to see what kind of Dman he is in 5yrs.
@TheNYRBlog Intentional. Unintentional. Reckless. Doesn't matter, the game is done and hockey evens it all out. Sure Pens will remember.
I doubt it was intentional, again, DZ has to have some sick accuracy to be able to elbow someone errantly like that, and he certainly doesn't lol. Another thing I hope Neal's okay but I really can't say I feel bad cause he's such a scum bag. On a side note, MDZ is getting to be a really nasty player and I love it.
Intentional or not, it's nice to see a Ranger on the giving end and not the receiving end of one of those for a change. JAM.
I knew right away from the slow mo it was a sneaky intentional hit, a spin move leading with the shoulder or elbow but no way he was head hunting - MDZ's not that kind of player and it's unfortunate Neal got injured. It seemed like an appropriate "non-call" but the officiating last night in general was absolutely awful and this is why players get injured unnecessarily. Henry gets slashed on the elbow with the official looking right at it and no call? WTF?? And the dirty play on Boyle, again no call but they're so quick to call the retaliation? Are these officials sleeping with "Cindy"? Anyway the probable concussion to Neal is unfortunate but it's great to see MDZ playing with an edge now - his game's come a long way this season.
@TheNYRBlog are you serious? Rangers fans might be the biggest morons on earth, I assume Nash's hit was clean as well?
@TheNYRBlog I agree entirely, but I expect him to be suspended anyway.
@TheNYRBlog In a world where the Pens are God's gift to hockey and Matt Cooke is just gritty and not a criminal. No reasoning with them.
I had to watch while listening to the Pens announcers. Man, what homers!!! According to them, Pens completely dominated the Rangers and Del Zotto elbowed him on purpose. Not even close. Nash was grabbed and held all night and no calls. Boyle's cross checking was a horrible call but they saw it as a wicked cross check. They even said that there should have been a penalty on the face off before Nash scored and their would have been no goal! LOL!! It was ridiculous.
Yep...exactly like an unintentional high stick, except that there are no real rules about body parts (are there?) I never seemed to recall them in my playing days, but that was years ago and not in the NHL. In any event, given the play it would be a really tough case to make that he intended to get him in the face. At that speed, backwards, all the timing required, coordination....I mean this is DelZotto...have you seen the accuracy of his one-timer??? That would be MY appeal! "Your honor, as you can clearly see, I can barely shoot in the direction of the goalie in perfect circumstances. The skills required for THIS type of act to be intentional on my part clearly elude me....Oh...you're the bailiff?...I'm sorry....if you could so kindly point me in the direction of the judge...."
@TheNYRBlog as nyr biased as I am--he meant it
@smoothyv he saw the line neal was taking???? so that half of a second he looks over his shoulder he knew Neal was gonna slouch down like he was zuks size and poke at the puck .... listen no one will ever know what DZ's intent was on the play but you cant tell me that in that little time he knew what "line" neal was skating ... give me a break, if anything in that split second if i saw neal coming i'd brace myself for a hit not figure out which "line" he was taking then throw a elbow cause he knows his head would be low. DZ was going for the hit/bracing himself and thats it, theres no way DZ throws an elbow to try and connect with his head.... we can talk about this back and forth but let them dance next time they play, im sure Dorsett wants a piece of Neal for his hit a couple yrs ago that gave him a concussion ..... LGR 2 pts in CAR tonight!!
Amen to that!
@GoldblumRules Actually you should do some research before u speak as I thought Nash should have been suspended.
@jmacwilli yeah. it happened so fast, the slo-mo replay is misleading.
@larryhanover1 He had his head down and his back to Neal. How did he mean it?
@AE61 watch the tape - Neal cuts inside, and Del Zotto stops and tries to cut off Neal - that's the "line" Neal was taking, and there is no need to figure it out, its areaction - next time your on skates with your buddies, try it, you'll see...and what are you talking about "slouch down to zuks size" - Neal was coming up when he got hit. Really, I did not say Del Zotto intended to smack him in the puss, and what I said about the whining you just proved, Sidney.
@TheNYRBlog didn't feel like going back to see, I figured if you thought a blatant intentional elbow is fine then you felt the same on Nash
@TheNYRBlog watch it again
@TheNYRBlog just before he turned he saw him coming--i saw it a couple times-he meant it and will b suspended
@AE61 How are you whining? Complaining about Cooke and Neal and the Pens - the question is "was it dirty" - not, are the Pens dirty and do they deserve it? Honestly, not sure what you are watching if you don't see that Neal was straightening up when he got caught with an elbow...but I guess you're right, Neal intentionally bent down and slammed his face into Del Zotto's elbow so that his hit on Hamonic (btw, when did you start caring about what happens to the Islanders) would not look so bad. A good hit? No, it was an elbow (and interference, for that matter), no matter how you look at it, and it happens, so accept it. Stop trying to justify it and move on, because believe it or not, justifying it is whining - lets leave that to the Pens. LGR.
how am i whining? it was a good hit, puck is there and DZ did a great job stopping a cutting neal's path, not his fault Neal WAS slouched down poking at the puck, you just said he was coming up when he got hit, so many people blame the guy who hits the other but people forget that players need to protect themselves a little better then they do.
@TheNYRBlog haha did you see how he turned and saw him coming first? Throwing that elbow is quite an unnatural motion for bracing yourself
@GoldblumRules Yep, blatant elbow with his head down and back to Neal.
@larryhanover1 I have watched. He absolutely saw Neal and was bracing himself for hit. Again, head down back to Neal. That's some accuracy.
@mikefroccaro torts has the final say, god 2d
@larryhanover1 nah gilroy put up solid numbers for the whale. Especially on the PP. torts just refuses to use him