Many players eliminated from playoff contention will head to Europe in order to compete in the World Championships, which begin May 3rd. Former Ranger and current Columbus Blue Jackets forward, Marian Gaborik, will not be one of them.
Gaborik did not pass his end-of-the-year medical examination with the Blue Jackets and therefore will not compete for Slovakia, according to Slovakia General Manager Otto Sýkora. Gaborik has a groin issue and he and the Blue Jackets medical staff will decide soon whether he needs surgery or if he can rehabilitate it as is.
This leads to questioning if this is an issue that extends back before his move to Columbus. Gaborik's severe dip in play resulted in speculation that he was not healthy, though most of that rooted from his offseason shouder surgery. Each team does thorough examinations of medical records and players almost always undergo physicals prior to the completion of trades so there is little chance that Columbus made a move for a severely damaged Gaborik. That being said, players have been traded in less than ideal shape before (just look at Derek Dorsett as a more extreme example) and it is very possible that the Blue Jackets knew he was battling something but accepted the risk.
In any case, it is injury to insult for the Blue Jackets. They sacrificed three young players in order to bring in Gaborik and make a run for the playoffs, which they barely missed out on. And now Gaborik will spend the offseason attempting to heal yet another groin injury as he enters the final year of his contract with the Blue Jackets. Gaborik has a reputation for being fragile, but groin problems have plagued him more than anything else; Gaborik has sat out with a groin injury on at least eight different occasions in his career.
One has to wonder if Glen Sather moved Gaborik at the ideal time. For all of his documented injuries, the Rangers had a bit of luck in that Gaborik played over 90 percent of the team's games. It seemed that we milked all we could out of him, and perhaps it's not just about his relationship with Tortorella or the need for a change or anything else. Reoccuring injuries reoccur for a reason. Once one does significant damage to a part of your body it becomes that much easier to aggravate again in the future. And older bodies simply don't have the capability to repair itself the same way as younger bodies do. At 31 years old, Gaborik is not exactly young by hockey standards, and we've seen plenty of players begin to lose gas in their early thirties (Dany Heatley, for instance). The result is that, even if he was healthy with the Rangers, Marian Gaborik's body has been and will continue to be a ticking time bomb. I don't doubt that Gaborik will be a productive NHL player for at least a few more years, but it's fair to question just how productive. Maybe he's only a 25-30 goal scorer now. And there's nothing wrong with that. But if Gaborik's body continues to break down then it very well might be the case that Glen Sather got a significantly better package for Gaborik than he would have next season.
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Gaborik is made of glass... He will never "get healthy".. at least not 100%, and if it doesn't mean more money, have fun watching the points and gp decline.. Been watching him since he played for MN.. As more time goes on, he is injured even more.. there is a reason Rangers dumped him.
...And who on this board has been saying all season that Gabby's playing injured? I've been pretty much his biggest supporter here (certain ly one of them) so when I said I liked the trade the day it happened you know I picked up on something. As much as I love his play and love that he carried this team on his back at times something had clearly changed in his play after getting leveled about the 8th game in or so. He stopped playing the boards and avoided contact like the plague. Lost velocity on the wrister and stopped battling for garbage goals. It was pretty obvious to me he was hurt (though I did think it was the shoulder) and you could use his injury as either an argument to keep him (because he will get better when he's healthy) 0r move him (because he is often injured and therefor a potential liability). Keeping him would have been a gamble under the circumstances which is why I favored the trade even though I was sick over losing him.. Personally I think he's done as far as being the "elite sniper" but I do hope he is healthy next season and gets his game back with CBJ (just as long as he does not score 5 against us!!!)
Groin issues are very possible hip related. Gab has already had one hip surgery. Sather stole this deal
I was riding Gaborik on this site all year for his terrible play. Everyone on this site except for 1 or 2 was all over me and that includes the keepers of this site. "Gaborik's a guy who can score goals and last time I checked it was about scoring more goals than the other team". "He's our best player and you will look like a fool when he comes back and scores 40". "He's a sniper and sniper's aren't supposed to be strong on the puck".
Then when the trade happened I said it was the best trade they've made since Gomez. The response was predictable: "we're having trouble scoring goals and we trade our best goal scorer - brilliant". "Gaborik will be missed"
Now everyone's high-fiving?
Meanwhile, Sather is no magician. He's made a bunch of dreadful trades as well (not to mention dreadful draft picks). If anyone deserves credit it's most likely Gordie Clark.
Fair enough but he does have a left and right side to that groin...I want a groin by groin breakdown!
I said on this blog when the trade was made it was a great deal for the rangers & this only confirms it. Look all of us like & respect Gabby's game but the fact of the matter he is a high maintenece player. He doesn't want to do the dirty work it takes to win a Cup. Mark Messier said it many times "winning hurts, it hurts to win, you have to sacrifice alot". Gabby didn't want to pay that price. Its not a knock on him. He grew up in a different culture. He didn't grow up dreaming of winning a Cup. I have a friend who plays for the Devs. Won't say who he is but he told me that alot of Eastern Europeans see going deep in the Playoffs as a burden. They want to get home for the summer & if u advance to the Finals it takes 2-months out of time they could be home. Sure they want to win but they don't like the sacrifice. Gabby was like that. Did he buy in to Torts system? To his credit he certainky did but he did it reluctanty. Torts had to ride him. That gets wearisome for the player, coach, & team. It was the same way in Minny for Gabby. Its why guys sometimes need a change of sceneray. Now the goals in Columbus are different. They just want to make the playoffs, just like when Gabby got here. Thats all we were looking for. Now the pressure is higher we want to win a Cup. Fgabby wilted under that last year & this.Plus Gabby is a sniper, not a creator like Nash. Snipers always lose something when they hit 30. For many reasons Sather did the smart thing by trding him for younger assetts.
I don't think it's fair to say this is "insult to injury" for CBJ. We have no idea when he got hurt and I highly doubt CBJ would've given up what they did if he was that injured when he left NY. (JD and Kekelanien are not Howson.) If it does end up being a serious injury, then yes the Rangers dodged a bullet. But that's all it is. We don't know when he got hurt so why speculate? I mean are we calling San Jose geniuses cause they got two, possibly three, draft picks for a guy who had a handful of good games but may never play a playoff game for us? Clowe has a concussion and that sucks for us but no one is saying way to go San Jose. I just don't think Gaby's injury has anything to do with what Sather did or didn't do.
Slat is a genius when it comes to trading...just keep his checkbook locked up when the free agent store is open ;-p
Dorsett will be a HUGE Garden favorite! Any1 got info on his possible Ranger debut, guy can skate & agitate as well as Avery & has more touch w. the puck!
Damn. Sather is pretty effin' good at this trade stuff. Hopefully he was right on the Clowe trade as well.
I must say the sky is the limit for John Moore, remember when we fleeced Montreal for McDonaugh? John Moore seems like the throw in to the deal, and I see him being a huge piece.
@Betweentheworlds I think it was both his shoulder AND groin. I also said that he seemed to have lost something off his jump and speed.
His shots were getting blocked all the time because he lacked that extra jump to put himself ahead of the defensemens stick to get the shot on net. And then of course the shot looked like it had less on it.
Just a bad como. JD took a risk, it almost paid off. They almost did make the playoffs. I also think they know they can get him better for next season. Their medical trainer is Gabby's old one from MIN. He has stayed with Gabby inn Czech while working on his groin.
@rangersfan The sad truth is that Gaborik is not the kind of player who can bring a Cup to NY. That is why The Wild never kept him. That is why no one was competing with us to snag Gaborik when he was a FA.
Snipers like Gaborik could contribute to a Cup winner in a past era......not in an era of a Salary Cap. The salary cap demands defensive play, tough on the boards, go in front of the net, hard on the puck. You simply can't afford to pay a sniper who gives up as many goals as he scores. You simply can no longer complement a great sniper like Bossey with two hard nosed players like Trottier and Gillies. There is not enough money to go around.
Respect and learn from our history. Smith/Keenan got rid of of Gartner and Amonte because they were snipers who did not play the complete hard nose game required to win in the playoffs.
I am able to catch all the playoff games. It is so revealing to see who gets ice time, who gets shut down and who ultimately wins. You have to by-pass the NBC announcers(all they do is promote scoring and never point out defensive lapses.............last year they claimed The Philly-Pittsburgh series was historically one of the best....ugh!) and listen to the analysts between periods.
They are all questioning (1) Will Richards play the way is needed to advance in the playoffs (2) Will Kessell totally disappear for Toronto (3) Will Thornton be tough enough finally (4) Can Luongo focus for the entire series(5) Will The Caps revert to their sniper way of playing in the series with The Rangers? (I hope so!)
It is all about the mental game of character toughness....is it not?
@rangersfan Gabby's been a plus player since after his 2nd every year except this one. That's 10 straight seasons I believe. Great numbers and consistency. Last year he was a +16 I believe - when he left this year he was -12. I think many of us agreed with you that it was time to move him. I personally did not like it but I understood and posted favorably about it, because I knew he was an oft injured player and that we picked up some good young talent in return
Sather hired Clark. Any good GM is only as good as his scouts. U think the Devs win all those Cups w-out David Conte as his Personell guy? No he doesn't. Sather hired Clark therfore he gets the credit.
@ThrSage Great insights......like your "Big Picture" emphasis on Culture. THANK YOU!
@Melissa (blknblueshirts) the difference is Gabby = Made $7.5 mill and stopped giving a shit in NYR. Clowe = $3.35 mill and plays hard every night.
@dook83 Like he did when he got Holik, Gomez, Redden and Drury.
He is tight alright!
Not sure he is a genius but he does have a rep for driving a hard bargain in trades. he won't trade unless he feels he is getting the better of the deal.
@EHBIGAPPLE I completely 100% agree with you about each of your points. The sniper, the Pitts-Phil series, the NBC announcers and mental toughness (something Kreider needs learn as a complete aside). You should contribute more to this site.
@Betweentheworlds you were one of the two people that agreed Gaborik's play this year was subpar, althougth you were much more guarded in your assessment.
The plus/minus thing is not a meaningful stat. Look at Callahan - a minus player 3 of the last 4 years. And Nash - a minus player 2 of the last 3 years. Do you think that accurately reflects their contribution? If you're playing on the first line with Girardi and McDonaugh/Staal as your defensemen your plus/minus is going to look a lot better. Even Torts has said he doesn't look at the plus/minus.
Gaborik was a good player in his early years. He had a good season last year - but he's much less of a player than his stats would indicate.
Meant to say do u think Lamorielo wins alll those Cups w-out Conte
@PenaltySh0t I'm not sure Gaby stopped caring and I haven't seen Clowe give his all every night but I get your point. I wasn't saying Sather did poorly with the trade itself (because he didn't) but finding out Gaby got hurt (probably in Columbus) doesn't make Sather more of a genius for the trade. It's the luck of a the draw when it comes to stuff like that.
@rangersfan I agree with you essentially, my opinion is the plus/minus is only a meaningful stat when a distinct pattern is shown and when taking other factors into account. In Gabby's case it is 10 straight years of being in the plus side, and many of those years his team was poor giving up more goals than getting. Add to that that his line often went head to head against the other team's best. This of course doesn't PROVE anything, but does suggest that his 2 way skills are largely underestimated. All the more reason to believe he has been playing below 100% this year, and probably because of some chronic or nagging injury.
@ThrSage @rangersfan Like your comments on Sather. The reviews on him as GM are mixed. He has executed well in choosing talent and has executed poorly in choosing talent.....no question. I believe his greatest accomplishment so far is his ability to totally switch gears and change his thinking on how to build a Stanley Cup winner in NY. He went from signing free agents as "the way" to win the Cup....... to building a winner by addressing all levels of the Ranger organization and instilling a hard-on-the puck philosophy in all three zones. As long as we have Henrik and continue to build out from the goalie all of us will drink from the cup one day!
Listen ,I know more about the Rangers, Hockey & Wall St then u will ever know!!!! So spare me the big SAT words & the dictionary. I know what it means. My point was u were using it in a context that made no sense. Also spare me the I don't have time to go thru his record nonsense. Thats as weak as ur original argument. If u r going to post something back it up. As for he was "lucky" he got Lundquist in the I am sorry 7TH RD not the 9th thats also pretty weak. He drafted him. Its part of his record. Just so u know and any good GM knows what a guys value is in a draft. For example when a GM trades down & gets the player he wants instead of drafting him higher. So Sather wouldn't draft him in RD-1 cause he knew he could get him later. All good GM's do that. BTW every player drafted is a "flyer" to some extent. No GM has a perfect record on its draft choices. As I acknowledged Sather missed alot prior to Clark but there also extenuating circumstances. Blackburn had a career ending injury. Jessiman got hurt & his development got stunted. However he did not make many good choices so he made a change & brought Clark in. Thats what a good GM does. He corrects his mistakes. What you are doing is choosing to blame him for the picks from 2000-04 without giving him credit for the good picks, such as Cally & Lundquist. Nor do u want to give him credit for the picks in which Clark was a part of. According to your "logic" its all Gordie Clark. As if Clark hired himself, scouted all the players himself, & had final say. How do u know Clark didn't want someone else over Stepan in rd-2 & Sather said no we r taking Stepan? How do u know he didn't want Palmieri over Kreider in 09? You don't neither do I. We know this though...Sather had final say so we know who ultimatly made the pick .All u can do is look at a GM overall record. Not just the years u want to.Your logic is so lacking it could have been written by Joe Begnino!!! In fact reading ur posts u must be one of the 16 people who listen to him!!!! Every good GM has a personell guy who makes him look good. Torrey had Devellano w-the Isles, Devellano had Ken Holland, Lamoriello has Conte. I could go on but hopefully u get the point. Go look at those guys draft choices & tell me if they didn't have misses. Sather has Clark. Good for him cause he hired him. BTW if its all Gordie Clark why hasn't other teams hired him? How many GM openings have there been since Clark joined us? 10? 15? No one hired Clark. Why is that? Cause its not all him & the league knows it. They also know it takes alot more than being a talent evaluator to be a good GM. The fact is Sather has built a team that has a chance to win a Cup. He is in charge, he did it. Thats all you could ask of your GM. Has he been lucky at times? Of course he has. All good GM's are lucky. Just ask them they will tell you. Anyone w-common sense knows that. Sather also built this team while working for a publicly traded corp. whose commitment is to earnings not to winning. If u knew anything about Wall St. u woulld know that & that the Dolans are very difficult to work for cause they are always looking to drive earnings. So again spare me the lectures/education I get it. Hopefully you are open minded enuff to have read this & consider that there is more to it than Gordie Clark is the reason are drafts are now better. Clark is good & I like him but its not all him.
@ThrSage Believe it or not I have a job and don't really have time to parse through the record. If you're point is that Sather is a genius because he drafter Lundqvist in the 9th round (I believe it was 7th but whatever) I think that's pretty weak. The organization admitted to taking a "flyer" on Lundqvist. Had he drafted Lundqvist in the FIRST round, then I agree, he would have been a genius, but the late round choices that "work out" are hardly support for good draft selection. A better measure is your first round choices and before clark came on board Sather's record with the Rangers included Blackburn, Montoya and Jessiman. Not stellar, especially when you consider all the people left in that draft after Jessiman.
As far as your rude comment about the empty suit - it's a pretty colloquial expression. If you're not familiar with it, I'll try to dumb things down for you. Here are a couple of dictionary definitions (below).
In the meantime you might want to swith your monikor from "theSage" to "theRetard"
Not sure what the Wall St. analogy or empty suit means. That is just something that u thinks sounds funnny/smart but makes no sense. You obviously know nothing about Wall St. & not much about hockey. As for his record Whats so ugly about it? If u want to judge Sather u can't cherry pick what u want. For example I could say in Edmonton he built the greatest team ever. The best collection of talent anyone has ever seen. He did it by finding guys in the 2nd rd and later. Messier, Anderson, Kurri, on and on. Guys others passed up but he drafted. Thats not an empty suit thats a Hall of Fame GM. As for the Rangers, the fact is he has built a team that right now can contend for a Cup. He did that by hiring the right people. Thats what a good GM does. Surrounds himself w-good people. Why is his record ugly? Cause early in his tenure, he spent money on a bunch of FA's who didn't pan out?Who cares. Would you rather have him not spend the money? His draft record pre Clark? I will remind you he drafted Lundquist in round 9, Callahan in rd-4 Brandon Dubinsky. Sure he had his misses like Jessiman but Jessiman got hurt which stunted his growth who knows what he might have become had he been healthy. So he drafts a Hall of Fame Goalie & 2-core players & thats an ugly reord? Hate to see what you think pretty is...lol. Back when Slats took over, when people were critical of him for our failure to make the playoffs & all the bad contracts he gave out to all those old vets he was signing, I used say 2-things. 1-name me the young player that he let go, who is now thriving elsewhere cause he signed a veteran to take his spot. No one could ever give me an answer cause that player did not exist. 2-He said when he took over that it would take 5 years for the rangers to competitive again. He also said there was not one core player in the system. Neil Smith & his defenders like John Dellapina took offense to that cause we had Malhotra, Brendl, & Lundmark all top 10 picks. Well was Sather right? Yep they all stink. It also took us 5-years and then we started to compete again. Now we have made the playoffs in 8 of the last 9-years. Thats pretty hard to do in todays NHL. The fact is Sather is a good GM who has done a good job. When we win a Cup in the next 2 or 3 years I am sure u and his detractors will say he deserves no credit.
@ThrSage Hiring good people is not enough. There a lot of people on wall street that think they should get paid for hiring good people. They're called empty suits. Sather is the epitome of an empty suit. Let's review his record before Clark came on board (draft picks and trades). It's an ugly rap sheet.
@Melissa (blknblueshirts) it makes Slats look brilliant because Gaborik had the risk of being injured, and for all we know he could've been injured here. We dumped serious deadweight and got some excellent new players, and now that Gab might not even play next season, we made CBJ look like fools.
Drury was a good signing he just got hurt. Holik was bad cause he was a system player. Meaning he looked better than he was cause of the Devs system & the players he was surrounded by. He was exposed once he came to us. Gomez was awful & I hated it when he made it. I never thought he was that good in NJ. He had a couple of good years. w-Devsnot great ones. So it was no surprise he stunk w-us. Redden was just dumb. Not only was that bad many people wrote prior to the signing he was washed up!!!! Still can't figure out what sather was thinking on that one. The good news is all that cost us was money. Cablevision is printing money w-the Rangers cause of the Cap. think about it. if I remember correctly our payroll was 90-m in the 1990's!!! Can u imagine if there was no cap how much we would spend!!!! Think about now 15 years later our payroll is 65-m. Think about how much $$$$ Cablevision is making!!!! So yeah they were awful but at the end of the day it didn't really hurt us!!!! @scrangersfan @dook83