"The NHL insists - for the health of the league - that players must be paid less. On the other side, the players' association contends that forcing players to take less doesn't solve the problems within the current system."
Dreger adds that negotiations remain in a stalemate - with no plan to resume formal talks.
...the other day I gave you a glimmer of hope, today I shut the door on it. Officially sick to my stomach over this.
However, in a piece of good news, the New York Post says representatives of the NHL and NHL Players' Association will meet in an informal session today for the first time since talks broke off last Friday.
There won't be any new proposals or agenda. Just open, candid dialogue.
...i don't care that it's informal, just good to hear they'll be talking again.
Meanwhile, Chris Johnson at the Canadian Press reports that none of the top executives involved in the NHL's collective bargaining negotiations, including Gary Bettman, Bill Daly and Donald Fehr will continue to be paid if the league enacts a lockout next week.
As of today, #NHLPA estimates between 150-200 players will be in New York at union meetings next week. Me thinks they're being conservative.— Aaron Portzline (@Aportzline) September 7, 2012
What these morons fail to realize is that without the fans there is no FUCKING NHL. If you screw us over we might not be back this time around. 3 lockouts in the past 18 years is ridiculous. You're playing with fire and I will be more than happy to extinguish your income if the 2 greedy sides can't come to an agreement soon.
It is wrong for both sides not to be meeting at least 3x a week every week since they started the talks. A season on the line! Fans cant take this, WE WANT A SEASON!! What about each arenas employees, what about their jobs. They dont have a million dollars to save until the next opportunity comes across. Does the NHL care about anyone but themselves?
Am I the only one who thinks its insane that with the season on the line, they haven't spoken about any of this for a WEEK? I can understand taking a couple of days to go back to their respective home bases, regroup, come up with new plans of attack, whatever, but a week? I don't sense much urgency on their part and that bugs the hell out of me.
For the health of the league and its continued existence as a major sport in the US, they CANNOT cancel the season. I just don't get how this is even a consideration in Bettman's world??? The small market teams may be playing hardball, but it will bite them squarely in the ass if the season is cancelled because their fans will NOT come back this time. Ridiculous!
After a great NHL season ..Unreal wtf are theses people thinking..get it together or your going to lose way more fans this time around and i dont think hockey can afford to lose anymore fans. We are already number 5 sport in USA behind Football, Baseball, Basketball and Nascar of all sports. They lock the players out Golf, WNBA and Bowling will be ahead of us FML!!! Bettman must die!!!
"The NHL insists - for the health of the league - that players must be paid less." Tenth-of-a-billion dollar contracts don't help back this up (Crosby, Ovechkin, Kovalchuck, Parise, Suter)
@MarkFox Nope. Also don't forget about the restaurants and bars surrounding the arenas. They will lose a ton of business.
@gravey94 Stop blaming Bettman... The two sides at war are the 30 NHL owners and the NHLPA. Bettman is the middle man trying to do whats right on all accounts. Bettman understands that a season cannot go on when two sides do not have a LEGAL contract to play for. They have to have an agreement, and so Bettman is making an ultimatum. Your right, he should be scheduling more meetings between the two and maybe there is more he should do but realistically name me one Professional Sports Commish who has done that... Every league hates their Commissioner in this situation because they believe he should be doing more, but if more could be done i am sure he is trying
@_JackThats a nice argument but signing those players bring in more fans, and allow them to sell MORE memorabilia. They can make back the money they spend on those guys in less than two seasons. I think LA Galaxy, who broke a record in signing David Beckham to a ridiculous amount made back their $$ in one year just from Jerseys and t-shirts not including the 20% increase in tickets sold.
The big thing is that owners are not getting paid enough for how many people sit in their arena. 57% of those tickets sold are going to the PA... I understand players are the reasons for fans coming to games but its also due to the marketing and employees that the owner invests in. HRR revenue is one of the largest incomes the owners receive and they are losing a majority of that share because of the current CBA.
Owners tho should not excpect the NHLPA to drop their 57% to 48% in one season. If they want to drop it, it should be slowly. 57% to 54% then to 52% and then the following years at even.
@MarkFox Ah, yes, they mean paid less as in paid less of percent share of revenue and not their paychecks.
I'd love to know how many Avery tagged shirts/jerseys the Rangers sold.