Former TML GM & NHL Agent Bill Watters thinks Gary Bettman's will bring in replacement players in NOV, & thinks this will crack the Union.— Josh Rimer (@JoshRimerHockey) October 2, 2012
Man, could you imagine if THIS came to fruition? We could see the potential return of players like Wade Redden or even Sean Avery?!?!
All kidding aside, the chances of this happening are far-fetched at best. This is just one way the league can test the solidarity of the NHLPA in hopes of getting a new CBA tilted towards the owners. If this scenario happens to occur, teams would struggle to fill out rosters with aging, un-signed veterans looking for a quick & easy payday. Younger players in the AHL and ECHL wouldn't dare cross the picket line in fear of being alienated by other players. Teams may even go as far as holding public tryouts to fill out rosters. I can't imagine fans coming out and paying any kind of money to see these guys play, I know I wouldn't.
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Does it make me a bad Ranger fan that I would love to see Sean Avery back on the ice? It probably does.
Bettman and the owners are a fucking joke. Their PR has been laughably bad through this entire process. Their greed is absurd and completely transparent to everyone. Every single day this lockout goes on longer they look worse.
If the NHL players don't want to play, then let somebody wear their jersey's. Atleast the NHL is coming up with a way for us to WATCH HOCKEY. Fehr won't listen to the NHL's offer, has no other offer's even CLOSE to the NHL's offer for his players, and has no plan to get these players back on the ice. When the reason we don't have hockey is because the NHLPA is asking for something that NO ONE ELSE will give them, I find it hard to blame the owners.
@TheNYRBlog @theNYRblogneill you should touch on the legality of scab players during a lockout. Not technically a legal move in all regards.
@TheNYRBlog I don't think you can bring in scabs during a lockout. I think scabs are only ok during a players strike.
@TheNYRBlog @thenyrblogneill at the same, maybe me you can be ny rangers for a week, lol you guys know how to skate? Lol
Could you imagine lacing up for the rangers!? Playing on a line with Avery in MSG!? that would be surreal.
@BuckarooClub Yes the great benevolent NHL out for the fans best interest! The owners aren't coming up with ways for us fans to "WATCH HOCKEY", this is another way for owners to try to get money from fans while not having to pay agreed upon negotiated contracts. Fehr HAS listed to the owners proposal which has moved the players from a 24% pay cut to a 17% pay cut along with substantial reduced contracts rights. Hard to believe they didn't jump at that one! As for your assertion that they are asking for a deal "NO ONE ELSE" will give them, the owners gave them this deal 7 years ago when they won the last CBA. Anything can happen, I could say no league is dumb enough to have a season long lockout but we already have history to prove that as well.
@MTopper319 i used to play competitive roller at the flyers skate zone, my conditioning now sucks though haha @TheNYRBlog
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG Where do I sign up?
@Garyn1183 You are right that the owners "gave these guys this deal 7 years ago" . Let's look at some other things the owners could have done the same day they gave out the current CBA ...
Shopped at a Circuit City , or a Borders Bookstore, or any of the 200,000+ small business that have gone out of business since then.
Put a gallon of gasoline in a brand new Saturn for under $2.00.
Sold a share of city group for $40.
Taken out multiple mortgages with no down payment.
Read an article about how the unemployment rate was HALF of what it is today.
Purchase an ounce of gold for $427. That same ounce would sell for nearly $1800 today.
The point I'm making is that this is a very different economic climate then the one we had in 2005, when we got the last CBA. Everyone is changing their stance on what they can afford to buy, and what they can afford to pay for it. The KHL was willing to throw out huge money to lure stars just a few years ago, but now won't allow teams to play NHL players more then 65% of their current contracts. The KHL is the next best deal these guys have, and it's not even close to the NHL's WORST offer.
I have no problem with the players getting paid, but if they don't want to take the money the NHL is offering, which clearly they don't, then PLEASE, for the sake of the fans, quit sitting on your hands, and find a place to pay you what you want so we can at least start watching hockey again.
@theNYRblogneill not under CBA, old CBA no longer applies. Talking under labor laws and collective bargaining laws and anti trust laws
@TheNYRBlog @thenyrblogneill I hear there will be a @nyrangers try out sign up sheet on the walls of MSG soon, "bring your own jersey"
@theNYRblogneill @thenyrblog lol I lace em up and skate on garden ice for the15 ppl that show up lol
@KevinDeLury could you imagine Torts busting up a bunch of beer gutted office workers in an amateur try out!?
@KevinDeLury what are the odds that a fan would make the team? I know this will never happen and even if it did fans wouldn't make the team. But wow...what if!? That would be a life changing event!!!
@BuckarooClub You could also add to that list
-NHL revenues were just over 2 billion (now are 3.3 billion which is at the heart of the issues between the two sides.)
Only a fool wouldn't recognize today's economic climate is very different than it was in 2005. However, I thinkt he KHL's offer of 65% or less of their current contracts is based upon professional courtesy between the 2 leagues because the NHL players are in a lockout. If the NHL players were free agents the top players could command just as high of salaries as they do here evidenced by Radulov signing for 9.2 million (I'm sure Malkin or Ovechkin could earn more).
Bottom line is just because the owners proposal seems more lucrative than what's offered in other leagues in a current lockout climate doesn't make it the right or fair deal for the players. Especially when revenues have grown at an exponential rate and certain markets are making money hand over fist. I recognize that there are very weak markets but the owner's proposal does nothing to address the systemic problems of having teams in markets that can't sustain them. Their proposal simply wants to take cash out of the player's pockets to prop up the 6 or 7 money pits the NHL wants to keep around.
I understand you want NHL Hockey back (as I do) and if you are willing to pay NHL prices for replacement players more power to you. I just won't be joining you in that endeavor especially when I find the owners to be the most culpable for the current state of affairs.
@pickledotcom gotcha, if you can find something concrete regarding legality, ill post it on the blog and you'll get the credit
@theNYRblogneill im in law school so im constantly postulating (for better or for worse), thats why i brought it up
@KevinDeLury ever see the it's always sunny in Philadelphia spoof of that? Haha this possibility rules.