Since the Rangers likely can't count on Brendan "I do nothing to take dangerous plays out of the game" Shanahan to hand out proper justice, I better see Rupp, Scott and Bickel making life miserable for Lucic during the Rangers next and final match-up against the Bruins on April 1st.
And I'm not talking just fighting Lucic, I want elbows, buttends and slashes on this guy all game long.
The Rangers will have the Eastern Conference's #1 seed locked up by then so taking a bunch of retaliatory penalties that might cost them the game will be irrelevant.
On the play, McDonagh's face hit the dasher causing a laceration on his right cheek.
eh, lets not sink to the level of those boston thugs, shall we? sure, im all for the rangers finishing EVERY SINGLE check on him all game long, and having scott and rupp and sure, even pruster challenging him would be great too. but cmon, lets not ruin the reputation of the team by taking cheap shots and lazy penalties and going away from the game plan just to retaliate for his cheap shot. the biggest "screw you" we can give would be sweeping them out of the playoffs and winning that Cup!
I would like nothing better then have Scott beat a living hell out of Lucic and I don't mean just a decision, I mean a clear cut knockout. I really dislike that goon.
Not to mention the sucker punches after the whistle that the nhl "vehemently" opposes. He should get a suspension. Do you think the rangers will go after him? Also we should get a campaign going for anyone who will be at that game to get some chants going, maybe remind the rangers and the viewers on TV what he did.
@Beckfan5 A big part of the Rangers' style is to get good/aggressive body position on the way into getting the puck. That means throwin' your back and ass at the person so you have the automatic offensive advantage.
@_Jack I understand that. But you can't put yourself in a position where you don't see the opposing player bearing down on you.
@Beckfan5 -- *vulnerable. ("venerable" means respectable)
Lucic takes a lot of crap for some of the plays he makes, but I think they're they kind of plays, that if he's making them for your team, you don't get as angry about. The B's gave up 2 early (some what soft) goals to us and came out flat. They fought back in the game, and they were still looking to tie it at that point. McD was trying to tie the puck up behind the net, and Lucic was trying to get it free. McD was already on the glass, and Lucic needed to move McD to free up the puck. I don't think the hit was a direct headshot, and his intention seemed to be to move big McD up against the boards to get the puck out of his skates. There's not really another way to do that. If McD wasn't already up on the boards, I'd take more issue with it.
As far as the shot Lucic took after the whistle, McD shoved him. Lucic had a glove on, but it was a jab in response, not a shot intended to know MC D out. If Lucic had dropped the gloves in response to McD's shove, it would have ben Carcillo all over again. McD is a big guy, and if he chooses not to fight, he chooses not to fight, however, fighting is still a part of the league, and if guys know he won't hit back, they're going to hit him without worry. He's gotta stick up for himself, ask for a babbysitter to play as his partner, or just take it.
Also, and this is something that bugs me about alot of our guys, if you're not gonna fight, don't get into shoving matches to begin. AA is big offender on this, and Cally too. Gabby seemed to learn his lesson after the Carcillo incident, but he was another guy. After a play, there might be pushing and shoving, if you know you have ZERO intention of dropping the mitts, skate away. If you need to get your guy out of a situation, get him out, THEN skate away. If other guys are fighting find a fellow pacifist to tie up with. If you can't figure out how to do this, I recommend picking up Wayne Gretzky's autobiography. He dedicates an entire chapter on what to do when a fight happens.
What Lucic is doing out there is exactly what Avery would be doing given the opportunity. The difference is, Claude Julien isn't trying to Mamma Bear and neuter him the way Torts did with Avery. Lucic is actually better in the sense that he does what Aves does, and throws up 30 goals too. You can get mad at the guy, you can hate the way he gets to your team, but you gotta admit, he's effective, and good at what he does. If Lucic played that game in a Blueshirt, the Garden would have been cheering for him all night.
I agree that Lucic is effective all around player and that he puts up points for his team. However, if he was really trying to "move" McDonagh as you're saying wouldnt coming in from the side and knocking him off the puck more effective than slamming his head into the boards? Hitting is part of the game but these high hits that have been a topic of concern lately are becoming more common. The message seems to be lost in translation IMO.
@ATCRyan From a guy who played alot of hockey, McD puts himself in a prone position on that play. The way McD is setting up to lock up that puck is something that's done alot at the college level, where guys have the full face shield, and their face can't get pressed into the glass. Basically, McD is making a little pyramid against the boards with his lower body to protect the puck. The only way to get into that little pyramid is get him up a bit, so he has to reset his footing. That's going to lead to the hit going up towards the head, but won't have nearly the impact of a hit directly AT the head, like an elbow intended to slam his head into the boards.
Basically, it's like the difference between throwing a hit where you ride the guy into the boards, versus a boarding worthy hit, where you rock a guy 3 feet away from the boards, and makes impact with the glass while flying through the air. Ultimately, I think the NHL is going to have to look into how defenseman protect the puck along the boards if they want to totally eliminate that play, maybe making it a quicker whistle.
@BuckarooClub Isnt Dubinsky supposed to be the type of player Lucic is?
@Beckfan5 Exactly. I'd say that Torts, in his never ending effort to turn hookers into housewives, didn't help by trying to make him a scoring winger overnight. Dubi could play a roll similar to Lucic, but he won't ever have the size advantage Lucic has, and Dubi will always be more of a center/set up guy then the finisher Lucic is. Let Dubi play with a couple of more skilled guys, let his roll be protection, working in the corners, and banging home rebounds, and he'll be a much more effective player.
@Beckfan5 Not trying to defend Dubi's season, but I don't think Dubi and Richards were ever going to be a great pair. Essentially, they are both guys who are more set up then finish. Richards wants two wings who can shoot, and he'll worry about getting the puck to them. Dubi isn't the scoring winger who should be playing Richards.
@BuckarooClub Dubinsky was playing with some skilled guys in Richards and Callahan. His job was to protect Richards, work the corners and bang home rebounds.
But he couldn't finish, missed the net too many times. couldn't handle Richards' passes and lost the puck way too often.
Therefore that's why he is a $4 million 3rd-4th line winger.
Would be nice if they pummeled him so bad that he's out for the playoffs... cheap shots like the ones he's been known for have no place in the game. Its really a shame that Shanahan isnt consistent with his rulings to make the game safer.
First Ference and now Lucic take cheap shots at McDongough, I'm thinking that they're trying to get inside his head by attempting to remove it. They don't call him Mac Truck for nothing though, the kid can take just about everything you throw at him and his game stays right on track. It'd be nice to see Scott throw some hurt on Lucic next time out. Or maybe Chara if we're lucky.
Broadway Hat should be specifically reserved for Rupper, Bickle and Scott on April 1st, and should go to the first who sends a real message to that cheap ass. Would love to see Scott re-arrange Lucic's face, dude's got the most painful beek in the league.
@TheNYRBlog hate that guy. I don't want to see prust fighting him. It needs to be Scott. You seen that guy throw down?
I'm guessing something like this will only happen once when McIlrath is patrolling the blue line ;-) Untill then, Scott needs to make sure that Lucic is eating through a straw after April 1st. Nice to see McDonagh go back at him though. I love the toughness of this team!
I don't think i can watch another game on NBC. Rather, I should say 'listen'. Biased commentators just piss me off. Throughout the whole game, even if a bruin took a shot, commentators went nuts. Rangers score.... silence.... speaking of this cheep shot, they speak of nothing.
@TheNYRBlog Maybe if ex-NHLers sued the league like the ex-NFLers, the league would take things more seriously.
@TheNYRBlog very upset Scott didn't get Lucic. After fighting Prust, Scott needed to do something and set tone on that guy