The Predators have seven days to match.
If the Preds don't match, the Flyers would have to give Nashville four first-round picks. Although that compensation package might not be 100% correct as it could be two firsts, a second and a third round pick.
Darren Dreger of TSN, who broke this story, says that the Rangers were big players in possible Weber trade scenarios.
...of all the frickin' teams, it had to be the Flyers. Let's hope that Nashville sticks to their word and matches.
...no way I want to watch Weber blasting that cannon from the blueline six times a year against Lundqvist. If you thought Rangers fans hated Pronger, just wait till this guy is wearing orange and black.
...although if the Flyers goalie still sucks does this move really improve their defense?
...at least this means the Flyers would be out of the Nash sweepstakes.
Speaking of teams dropping out of the Nash sweepstakes, James Murphy at ESPN.com reports that the Bruins, who along with the Flyers are on a list of teams that Rick Nash would approve a trade to, are no longer in contention for the Columbus captain's services.
The Bruins felt Columbus' asking price of any combination of Krejci, Lucic, Tyler Seguin and prized prospect Dougie Hamilton was too high.
In other Rick Nash news, Kevin Kurtz at Comcast Sports says that the San Jose Sharks haven't had any discussions with the Blue Jackets regarding their captain in months.
The Blue Jackets haven't come off of their insistence that Logan Couture be a part of a deal for the scoring winger, which is a non-starter for San Jose.
...so of the six teams on Nash's approved list, it seems as though four of them could potentially be out (Flyers, Sharks, Bruins and Red Wings). That leaves the Rangers and Penguins.
Although, the Penguins might also be out of the Nash sweepstakes if they acquire Shane Doan (Inside Pittsburgh Sports)...
"While 'serious negotiations' have yet to happen between Penguins and Doan, the Penguins are among the short-list of teams under strong consideration and could emerge as a favorite for Doan, if he leaves Phoenix, despite offering much less money than other interested teams."
Doan, who is still hoping that the situation in Phoenix works out, may not make his decision for weeks.
...so that once again leaves the Rangers as the last team standing for the Columbus captain.
...wow, Sather is playing this brilliantly.
To Rangers free agent signings, Adam Proteau at The Hockey News says the Blueshirts acquisition of Michael Haley is tied with the Devils signing of Krys Barch as the 8th worst this offseason...
"The salaries of both tough guys are relatively the same, but the length of the pacts is the problem here. Was there really that much of a market for Haley (who has two goals and three points in 43 career NHL games) and Barch (who has 31 points in 304 games) that both Atlantic division teams needed to tack on a second year to their deals? And what kind of upside-down NHL world is it when future Hall-of-Famer Jaromir Jagr can only land a one-year contract and these guys get twice as much term?"
...i think I'm one of three Rangers fans who like the Haley signing. He has the ability to give the Rangers a Sean Avery type spark in games they come out flat in. Something I felt they sorely lacked in the playoffs.
...having said that, I'm not even sure if he's going to make the team out of camp.
For reports on yesterday's CBA negotiations as well as Mike Richter being honored at the White House, click the "Read More" tab below.
Jeff Klein at the New York Times reports that yesterday's CBA negotiations between the players and owners were very civil but the possibility of a lockout still looms.
NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman says he's focused on getting a deal done before the current collective bargaining agreement expires on September 15th.
Brandon Dubinsky, who along with Henrik Lundqvist was a player representative at the meeting, said this about the owners initial proposal...
“There wasn’t much of a reaction. I think everyone’s expecting us to say how upset and disappointed we’d get, but it’s a negotiation. That was their starting point. We just have to continue to work through some of the issues and stick together.”
Negotiations will continue today and tomorrow.
...at least both side are talking, which is always a good thing. Still think it'll come down to the final hour before they come to an agreement.
Here's a pic of Lundqvist along with former Ranger Manny Malhotra and NHLPA Executive Director Donald Fehr after the session (Jesse Spector)...
...seriously, does Lundqvist ever have a bad hair day?
Finally, according to Colin Campbell (No not that one) at the Politiker, Mike Richter along with other sports industry leaders will be honored at the White House today for their work to reduce energy usage.
...assuming that when Richter finally runs for office he won't have a lack of volunteers from the New York Tri-State area.
H/T to Scotty Hockey.
Damn. Really looks like Nashville is in a tight spot. Weber is really gonna be on the Flyers, huh? That kinda sucks ...
When Holmgren saw Weber smash Zetterberg's face into the boards he thought to himself "BOY! he'd fit in great here! we gotta get him!"
New post on Columbus GM Howson hoping Weber offer sheet re-ignites Nash talk: http://www.nyrangersblog.com/2012-articles/july/howson-hopes-weber-offer-sheet-re-ignites-nash-talks.html
If the rumors about the Rangers being close in trade talks with the Preds for Weber are true, I can see the Flyers doing this offer just to make sure he didn't end up a Ranger. Either they get him or Preds match. Smart move on their part.
First things first. Proteau is a tard. We know this. The Hockey News is a joke of a sports magazine. I don't even go there anymore. Secondly, Nashville has to match this offer, Weber knows that, he just used Holmgren to get the contract he wanted from the Preds. Holmgren is the only guy who looks bad in this deal. Looks inevitable that Nash and his contract will be at MSG. Just a matter of time. I have to think that Dubinsky is the main piece that moves, along with a top prospect, like erixon, or thomas, and a first and a second round draft pick.
Why am I not surprised that since the new CBA was put into place with UFA, RFA, and Offer Sheets rules, the FLYERS are one of the few teams that would actually use an offer sheet. In past off season most GMs make it sound like its basically the biggest douche bag move in the business.
If I'm the Preds, I sign the offer sheet then immediately trade Weber to the Rangers just to the give Paul Holmgren the old "F U"
Ugh it seems like the flyers always land someone. Im not sure why the rangers are havimg such a tough time this offseason with sighing an offensive threat and or trading for one.
The way Flyers structured contract Nashville will have to pay Weber $27 million in year one. Could prevent them from matching. Oh no!!!!!
How does Adam Proteau have the column? The Haley/Barch to Jagr comparison has to be the DUMBEST thing said all summer. The combined value of the contracts give to Haley and Barch doesn't equal what Jagr is getting on his one year deal. Oh, and one more thing Adam.... HALEY AND BARCH AREN'T OVER 35!!!! The reality is, that no contract for a player Jagr's age, at $3+ mil per, under the current CBA, is going to be for more then a year. It's not a slight, it's a reality. I can't believe a "professional" hockey writer can't see that. Can we start a petition to get this turd fired?
Here's break down of Flyers offer sheet per Nick Kypreos: Weber offer sheet from #Flyers. 1st 4 yrs 1M salary+13M sb; yrs 5-6 4M sal+ 8Msb; yrs 7-10 6M sal; year 11 3M sal; last 3 yrs 1M sal
The Flyers did the Predators a huge favor since this was well within the range of what the Preds already knew they were going to have to pay (both dollars and years) for Weber. Now they can sign him and have him locked up for the duration. The Preds were scared of someone signing Weber to a *1-year* offer sheet that they'd then have to match, which risked the possibility of them being unable to sign Weber during that year and Weber walking as soon as the year was up.
@queensbee He must travel with a hair stylist.
"StuffedPrustPizza" is a spectacular handle.
@CinciMike seems right. I woulda shit myslef if the rangers got weber.
@CinciMike God I hate the Flyers.
@Ranger Dave Dave I just tweeted that exact Nash package to another reader. Great minds my friend: https://twitter.com/TheNYRBlog/status/225944973902753792
@ChrisP Sather playing the waiting game and right now it seems to be working as teams continue to drop out of Nash derby which should drop the price.
@KevinDeLury how does it work out that they would have to pay him 27 million?
@KevinDeLury Until the Flyers got upset and took their ball and went home. I'm gonna play them in NHL12 tonight and slash every player all game long.
@BuckarooClub Proteau is brutal. He actually blocked me on Twitter b/c I kept calling him out.
@KevinDeLury Every fiber of my being hopes this bites them in the butt in any way possible. I hope other gm's black ball them. They're peeing in the punch.
@GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG No way they're losing both Suter and Weber. And as tikk says below the Flyers just made life a lot easier for the Preds because they can lock him up long term now instead of worrying about him becoming a UFA next year.
@tikk10 Great points.
@KevinDeLury Yeahhh! Now that we know what the market looks like we have a better idea of what would be exceptable from slats perspective. I think your 100% right with that package. And I would except that deal as a Rangers fan as much as I love Dubinsky.
@KevinDeLury You really think the price is going to drop that much with whose in charge over there? Id rather them go after Ryan whose better defensively, or have made big offers to free agents. I was happy however that they made a good run at Jordan Staal.
@KevinDeLury @GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG this is a great point guys. Preds now match and if weber wants out they can trade him for better value then the four draft picks. Can't believe weber didn't see that coming...
@KevinDeLury @johnnyb3910 Bettman should make an exception just this once and allow the trade now just because Homers a banghole.
@KevinDeLury @ChrisP And we remember someone wrote torts will get Nash out of his bad habits. I think he'll fit the system which will naturally move a little more offensely with him around and Kreider here zipping around.
@ChrisP @KevinDeLury I like the stats pointing out Nash gets 30 goals in Columbus every year. Ryan can't do that with getzlaf and perry. Nash is much better.
@KevinDeLury thats true. theres just something about nash that just doesnt seem right.
@ChrisP No so sure he's that much cheaper. Ducks will be asking a lot. Contract is better though. I'm not even 100% convinced he's even on the market anymore.
@KevinDeLury Thats true, but why not, hes a cheaper alternative to nash? Im sure theres a lot behind the scenes here but expressing some interest would make sense, no?
@ChrisP You may want Ryan, but I have yet to see or hear the Rangers linked to him.
@KevinDeLury Haha that is awesome. I don't understand how you can offer sheet a guy like weber and not expect retaliation in one form or another. I know unwritten rules are pretty mug garbage, but there's some things you just don't do. This is the most short sighted desperate move they could have made.
@KevinDeLury @GLENsatherVSglennDANZIG Ouch! Well that just means he will be a predator for the next 14 years then. And now Paul Holmgren better not let any of his young guys get to rfa status or there will be teams jumping all over them.