Doan Wants 4-Years, $30 Million; Nash Happy Not to Break Up Nucleus
Mike Halford at Pro Hockey Talk reports that Shane Doan is looking for a 4-year, $30 million contract if he doesn't re-sign with the Coyotes.Halford adds that some sources predict he'll come close to getting it.
...have some of these owners forgotten that Doan is 36! And these same guys are actually pleading poverty during CBA negotiations. Unreal.
...if Sather caves to Doan's demands he will have lost all the good will he has created for himself the last three years.
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Meanwhile Rick Nash is already getting on my good side by proving he's coming to New York wanting to win by stating his happiness that the Rangers were able to get him without breaking up their core (Pro Hockey Talk)...
"I didn't want them to blow up the nucleus of the team and the players that are going to make them good. That's the reason why I wanted to come. I'm happy (with) the way it worked out. I thought Columbus got two great players and a prospect. I thought the trade worked out for both organizations."
...absolutely love this. He makes a great point that if the Rangers had giving away a number of young, stud players to get him he'd be stuck playing for another franchise with no future. Kudos Rick.
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Shane Doan is a decent player but that is about it. Nothing more nothing less. Last year he scored only 22 goals and had only 28 assists. 50 total points and a minus 8 plus/minus and he wants a 4 year deal at age 36 almost for 30 million?
1. He flat out just isnt that great of a player.
2. At his age he will only see what little skills that he does have left detiorate.
3. He is stupid and takes bad penalties at crucial points in a game.
4. 7.5 million a year cap hit for a guy that couldnt crack most good teams top line.
Heck Calgary just signed Jiri Hudler from Dteroit for 4 years at only 16 million.
Hudler had 3 more goals then Doan had last year. The same amount of points at 50. a plus 10 plus/minus rating is only 28 years old compared to Doans near retirrement age of 36. And people say that Calgary overpaid .
I would much rather have him and his contract than Doan and his expected contract.
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Doan made $4.5 per in his last contract. Why do people think he's worth $2 to $3 million more per year, ever with a two year contract, at age 36? Pass.
@KevinDeLury -- Competition drives up the price. He'd be a great asset to so many teams, the Rangers included. But we're not as desperate as others. Richards took less money to play with the Rangers -- even though it's still a pretty fat contract -- maybe Doan wants to take a smaller deal for a shot at the cup, 'cause I think the Rangers are contenders.
i wouldnt mind giving him 6-7 mill but only for 2 years. if he wants more years the cap hit cant be too high because that is when we are going to have to resign alot of people
@Van_Ness_WVU -- that might work. That way he gets his money -- and, I imagine, a chance to compete for the cup -- but his contract is up before we have to sign new contracts with Lundquist, Callahan, Kreider, Boyle, and Girardi ...
That comment below from facebook is an interesting one; considering that they now have Nash, their cap situation, and the fact that Doan is courting ridiculous $, maybe they should have played ball with Prust...?
@AnnoyingJoe -- well of course they played ball with Prust. They just weren't willing to pay him as much as Montreal was, and they were right not to.
@AG_Blue @AnnoyingJoe I think that the prust contract was a little over the top. But at that time, before nash, and with a cba coming up, it was the right decision. Slather does not want to overpay anybody. He learned from gomez and redden. Gm in Montreal has obviously not.
@AnnoyingJoe Oh! Now I get you. Yeah, that could be. I like that alternate reality. I hate to see Prust go and we still need a right winger.
I'm sorry. I'm doing a poor job of getting my point across. I'm talking more "alternate reality" type stuff. I know what actually happened. What I'm saying is, had Prust not been signed before the Nash deal, I beleive that he would have settled for less AND, considering the cap situation, the team probably would have upped their offer a bit.
@AnnoyingJoe -- I thought I heard Glen address this. He said that Prust would have taken a little less to stay in N.Y. (he called it the [something] discount, I don't remember his exact words) but in the end they just weren't close enough.
@Ranger Dave @AG_Blue @AnnoyingJoe
it was the right decision at the time. What I'm saying is, in hindsight, maybe they could have come a bit closer to what Montreal was offering. There is a real chance that Prust would have taken a little less to stay in NY. And if the new CBA is a concern,why would they even begin to consider Doan?
I'd be OK with $13M for 3 years or even $20M for 4, but $30M is ridiculous! Rangers are fine as is. Liking the Nash trade more and more each day!
@gravey94 -- yeah, that sounds more reasonable. What other teams is he really going to want to play for? The Penguins are probably the best other candidate to win anything, especially if Detroit is out of the running. The Rangers look pretty good without Doan, so if he wants to help a team out that's make a go of it, maybe he's willing to accept a smaller contract.
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No f-ing way! What a joke. Let other, more desperate teams pony up that contract. We are good.
@AG_Blue @Ranger Dave Aka the Flyers. Let them add a 7 mil a year guy and screw themselves for ever.
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I agree Kevin, if I was Donald Fehr, I'd be laughing my ass off at the ridiculous proposal the nhl gave the players. With the huge contracts the owners are throwing around, it's kind of silly to plead poverty.
I mean, I can't quite say "told you so," but again, this likely being Doan's last contract as a player, part of him is going to want to take what he can get. A two-year contract for around $4.5 mil may sound reasonable to us, but Doan is going to be entertaining much better offers. On the other hand, if he wants a real shot at winning, he should consider taking less to play with the Rangers.
@AG_Blue I really didn't think a two year 14 million contract offer would have been bad for a guy like Doan who would be 38 when its over. Top talent costs 7 mil a year (see Semin) but a gm would be insane to handicap themselves with Doan for two extra years. The guy isnot nicklas lidstrom.
whoever pays that will get stuck with his cap hit when he doesnt play well up to the contracts worth. 35 _ players the teams take the full hit for. the salarys are WAY OUT OF HAND!
