Larry Brooks at the New York Post says whether the above picture comes true or not will be based on the results of the next two games on Long Island and at home against the Sabres.
...no pressure guys. Actually this angers me. How can a decision of this magnitude be made based on two games? Shouldn't it be an evaluation of the overall team and how Nash fits into it? Placing the organization's future on the team's performance in two games seems beyond foolish.
...btw, did the above picture terrify anyone else the way it did me?
Brooks adds the Rangers have designated Ryan McDonagh, Michael Del Zotto, 2009 first-rounder Chris Kreider and 2011 first-rounder J.T. Miller as untouchables in Nash trade talks and have also been unwilling to include Tim Erixon in any package going to the Blue Jackets.
The Rangers are prepared to give up Brandon Dubinsky, Christian Thomas, and perhaps 2010 first-rounder Dylan McIlrath plus a first round pick for the Columbus superstar.
...Uncle Larry to the rescue. Hope this report will help get people off the edge of the cliff, but to be honest that package isn't enough to get Nash.
...however, if Columbus does accept that offer, as much as I love Dubinsky, this would be a steal of McDonagh type proportions.
Meanwhile over at TSN, Pierre LeBrun of ESPN.com says the Rangers are the absolute front-runners for Nash to the point where their discussions with Columbus are delaying other possibilities on the trade market for them.
...great, now these ridiculous negotiations for a player the Rangers don't need are adversely affecting Sather's ability to actually make this team better.
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Brian Stubitz at CBS Sports, who photoshoped the above pic, has more on the Rangers chances of getting Nash here.
Finally, Dave Lozo at NHL.com takes a look at the positives and negatives of the Rangers getting Nash.
Why? Dubinsky hasnt done nothing. He holds out and gets paid and than this year only has 6 goals. Rangers dont not have enough offense to win the cup. We need Nash or Jeff Carter we have too many grinders and no goal scores other than gaborik. We need more team speed too fast teams kill us. Teams like Toronto, Senators, Blackhawks and Penguins we have trouble with
I have honestly no problem trading mxillrath. The guy is a goon. I've heard about too many hits to the head and suspensions for my liking this season. Seems like he could become a liability and a cause for some negative attention for the Rangers
It's not about the next 2 games...it's just that those 2 are all that's left at this point. In my opinion, Sather is uncertain either way, otherwise it would never come down to the actual deadline - just do the deal & move on. But If the Rangers completely collapse over the weekend (which they won't) he will have the excuse that he "had" to do something to save the team.
I usually look forward to the trade deadline with great anticipation. Now, it's becoming more of an annoyance than anything else.
I can't see how this is true. Glen and the Rangers have already made a decision. 2 games (Against bottom teams) in an 82 game season isn't going to change that. I would say the ball is probably in CBJ court. Deals like this take A LOT of time, they don't happen overnight.
"based on the results of the next two games on Long Island and at home against the Sabres."
Which were also based on the results of the last 3 games as well.
Dont know why Erixon is untouchable and Mcilrath isnt. Erixon has lots of potential, but he is another one of those ”smart” d-men. We have plenty of those, keep the banger, thats one thing missing from our D, wnich I love, very solid, but McI is a bonecrusher.
Darren Dreger from TSN NHL: "The San Jose Sharks are emerging as a strong contender for Rick Nash. Sources say Columbus initially targeted Logan Couture, but was quickly told that was a non-starter. But, make no mistake, San Jose will stay in the mix until Monday's deadline.
Nash and Sharks veteran Joe Thornton are good friends and have shown an impressive chemistry when playing together internationally that isn't being overlooked. The Sharks would prefer an off-season deal to avoid the in-season disruption, but San Jose is keen."
is that nash's head photoshopped onto hagelins body? looks odd.
uncle larry has to sell newspapers, plain and simple. his well written article DOES pose a conundrum for sather though.
im happy to see who is on the list of off limits players, if that list is indeed real.
omg omg omg omg omg, please no nash... it would be the biggest step backwards after moving forward so much as an organization.
i cant believe sometimes im saying please no nash at times, but there is a bigger picture. the hardest thing to do is usually the thing that you HAVE to do.
no to nash.
What Brooks says is that it is "fair to believe" that the next two games will have an impact. What he means is that he has absolutely nothing to back that up and that since his current job requires that he write SOMETHING about the rangers every day he is forced to write a non-informative fluff price like the one in Todays Post.
Print Media is dead
thats not a gomez like trade at all...we arnt getting rid of a washed up over paid player for a rookie super star d man...And giving up mcilrath would be tough for me, we finally drafted someone who would be feared around the league physically, that can clear the crease....and we are just gonna trade him for a goal scorer in a down year that lacks defense? NOPE
Well I would agree LeBrun that it does handicap the rangers ability to move forward a little because any trades made could hamper chances of getting Nash. Sather needs to decide when/if Nash is too expensive and needs to pursue other trades to make the team better.
Wait--we can still get Nash without giving up MDZ, McD, Kreider, or Miller? Pull the trigger then, Sather. I'm assuming guys like Staal and Stepan aren't even in the conversation and so that's why there's no mention of them. If we can get Nash for Dubi, Thomas, McIlrath, I say DO IT. Sure, I'd love to see McIlrath as a Ranger someday. I'd love to see every prospect make it to MSG. But you have to give up something to get something and Nash is a legit star NOW, while prospects only have a chance to be a Nash (or some other star) someday. I'd gladly take Nash's 27-year old bonafide talent now in exchange for the mere possibility that McIIlrath might be like Jeff Beukeboom in five years (when Hank will already be approaching 35).
Maybe everyone should just wait for some actual confirmed facts or evidence before jumping all over the Rangers' management. While its fun to read and speculate these are just rumours after all.
I've never been a Dubi fan, so couldnt really care less to see him go. Just do it & let everyone move on!
Dubi Thomas mclirath and a 1st is a solid Package to give up you guys don't understand how good Nash really is .... Thomas will prob never play in NHL 2 small ... Mclirath is good but he's no pronger or Shea weber....
CBJ asking price is way to friggin' high. Crazy crazy crazy. They're gonna want more than Dubi as a current player. A first rounder and the best prospect in system? Screw it. Get some more depth at D and that will take us a long way. This team can and will score down the stretch. BR19 and Gabby will step up. Photo Indeed does scare me a little Kevin.
No Kreider, Miller, Erixon, McDonagh, or MDZ in the trade. So I'm guessing then it's Wolski straight up for Nash? Seriously. What scares me is that there's no mention of Stepan or Hagelin as untouchables either and I've hear that Columbus really likes Stepan. Hopefully the Kings blow Columbus away with an offer!
Of course that's what Sather says, right now. But as of Sunday, I up the ante and include one of those "untouchable" prospects to see if Howson is desperate enough to bite.
If they could pull off a trade like the one mentioned above that would be amazing. I know McIlrath has received a lot of hype but to me it seems as if he's a liability. Yes he will protect the blue paint but I see him taking dumb penalties and getting suspended a lot, which hardly makes it worth it. Especially with the way torts runs the team. Just my two cents...
definitely reassuring to hear that the rangers are not willing to give up McDonagh, Del Zotto, Kreider, and miller.
Can't wait for these rumors to stop! Only four days left!
@AnnoyingJoe True. However, his The Next Big Blue two page spread was pretty damn good.
@Kevin_H wouldnt that make McIlrath more indesposable...if hank is on the decline dont you want a top d-man on your team?...as in if your goalie is on the outs you dont want a shit defense in front of him.
@gravey94 i really dont think stepan or hagelin are goin anywhere... Dubi is the focus of talk
@gravey94 I'd be really pissed if they'd trade Stepan tbh
@ATCRyan thank god! someone who we'll take a penalty when they crash lundqvist, ill take it any day of the week!! as for the suspensions they can stamp that out real quick
@NoticeOtis Hell no!! I am champing at the bit to see McIlrath in a Rangers jersey, and I'm sure Lundqvist is as well!
@NoticeOtis No, I'm with you. He is the crease clearing defenseman Rangers fans have been begging for all these years.
@ATCRyan Let's hope so. But makes you wonder why Columbus would trade 30+ goal guy for a guy who has never scored 25. I could see if it was a walk year, but Nash is signed for the next 100 years. I just don't see how Dubi, some mid-range prospects, and a boderline 2nd round pick get it done. Which worries me what else there may be that we're not hearing about.
@KevinDeLury he's the closest to beukeboom we'll ever get
@ATCRyan yeup i agree i hope he turns out to be a great shut down defenseman and a heavy weight..plus i mean anybody can change the way the play, look at the asshole cooke lol guy has like 14 penalty minutes on the season...just saying
@ATCRyan@NoticeOtis -- not hard at all. fines and suspensions make a difference. this is a league that used to have bench clearing brawls. do you know why they don't happen anymore? discipline works and mcilrath is still just a kid." he will keep his physical game so he's bound to get in trouble sometimes, but he's not an idiot; he can and will learn to play a smarter game because he wants to succeed. this organization is not going to make room for a discipline case.