...has there ever been two groups of people less equipped to deal with a lockout than these guys (other than Republicans and Democrats in Congress of course)? It's called a negotiation. You get in a room. You both layout your arguments. You meet in the middle. You don't say "we won't meet unless you're willing to compromise." In what parallel universe does that negotiating strategy lead to a deal being made? Why is this so difficult?
...since the owner's won't meet unless the players are willing to bend and the player's are standing strong behind Fehr, why are they prolonging the fans agony? Just put us out of our misery and cancel the effin' season.
@TheNYRBlog the union is a bunch of fucktards. Be happy with what you are offered and do your job. Thanks union for destroying the game.
'Agree to these 3+ terms exactly as we present them or there is no need to meet.' -NHL
That is still in effect and is literally the hill the NHL is willing to die on. Careful what you wish for...
both sides cannot be blamed for this. this is solely on the NHL and the owners. period. bend to our will or we wont even meet. it is arrogant and short sighted. they will not get one more fucking penny from me. im totally behind the players on this one.
@TheNYRBlog I really gave the NHL too much credit. I didn't think they were stupid enough to do this AGAIN.
I'll say it again: Disband the union, get rid of Bettman/Fehr and all the bullshit, and reform. We've lived with this lockout long enough. I'm sure people can live (as much as it would suck) without hockey for however long it takes to do.
The thing is, if you're taking the owners claims that the bulk of them aren't making money at face value, and to this point Fehr hasn't done anything to show that those numbers are false, then the owners only have so much room to "negotiate". It doesn't help them to sign a deal that forces teams to lose money to operate.
I think the owners are prepared to cancel the season at this point, they just don't want to give the NHLPA the opportunity to blame it on the league alone.
@BuckarooClub It's all a paper loss. Even the worst teams are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. If these guys are sick of losing money than sell your team. It's all about bad management not the CBA.
@KevinDeLury The teams are worth hundreds of millions of dollars, but you've got to find a buyer, and as we've seen, it's not always that easy. Plus, as soon as 12 owners put up their NHL teams all at once, those values plummets.
I think the numbers that came out a few weeks ago, that pointed to the Rangers, Leafs, and Habs making up such a huge amount of the league revenue were very telling. Also, Brooksie pointed out who the Rangers are spending less then 10% of their revenue to get to cap ceiling, while the Isles as spending close to 60% to get to the floor.
There's a big gap between the "haves' and the "have nots" in the NHL, and there's ALOT more "have nots". The players seem too anxious to squeeze every nickel out of the "haves' today, rather then bringing more of the "have nots" up to the level where league really becomes successful.