23. Brad Richards - 72GP, 25g, 46a, 71 pts.
52. Marian Gaborik - 67GP, 29g, 30a, 59 pts.
60. Ryan Callahan - 73GP, 26g, 32a, 58 pts.
71. Brandon Dubinsky - 75GP, 24g, 30a, 54 pts.
115. Artem Anisimov - 82GP, 19g, 29a, 48 pts.
122. Derek Stepan - 80GP, 21g, 26a, 47 pts.
135. Mats Zuccarello - 72GP, 13g, 32a, 45 pts.
163, Wojtek Wolski - 76GP, 15g, 27a, 42 pts.
243. Brian Boyle - 77GP, 19g, 15a, 34 pts.
245. Dan Girardi - 81GP, 5g, 29a, 34 pts.
284. Marc Staal - 80GP, 7g, 24a, 31 pts.
293. Sean Avery - 69GP, 9g, 20a, 29 pts.
...tell you what if Gaborik is going to score less than 30 goals and Richards is going to have less than 50 assists the Rangers are going to be trouble offensively this season. Having said that I actually agree with these projections.
Sorry, but does TSN even look at rosters before making these projections? What (plausible) lineup has Aves, Wooly AND Zuc all playing the entire season? Who the hell is supposed to be sitting Christensen and Feds? Prust? Rupp? C'mon. I mean, I always knew those guys were a little off and a lot biased, but this is just retarded. What a load of crap from a bunch of complete morons. I would bet money my wife could come up with more accurate predictions.
These are way off compared to THN's projections for Gaby and Richards.
This is what THN had to say.
15th Brad Richards- 25 Goals and 59 Assists - 84 Points, 80 games played
17th Marian Gaborik- 40 Goals and 42 Assists- 80 Points, 75 games played
OK, let's have some fun here!
Richards - 79 gp, 23g, 58a, 81pts
Gaborik - 69gp, 37g, 33a, 70pts
Dubi - 80gp, 23g, 39a, 62pts
Cally - 75gp, 31g, 26a, 57 pts
Step - 81gp, 17g, 31a, 48 pts
Wolski - 76gp, 18g, 29a, 47pts
AA - 82 gp, 20g, 24a, 44pts
Feds - 72gp, 12g, 20a, 32pts
Boyle - 81gp, 16g, 14a, 30pts
Prust - 80gp, 10g, 11a, 21pts
Avery - 55gp, 6g, 14a, 20pts
MZA- 38gp, 7g, 12a, 19pts
Rupp - 78gp, 7g, 6a, 13pts
Hagelin - 26gp, 3g, 4a, 7pts
Staal - 79gp, 9g, 29a, 38pts
MDZ - 67gp, 7g, 28a, 35pts
Girardi - 80go, 7g, 20a, 27pts
McD - 82 gp, 4g, 19a, 25pts
Sauer - 81gp, 2g, 12a, 14pts
Erixon - 62gp, 1g, 10a 11pts
Eminger - 64gp, 1g, 6a, 7pts
I believe thise low blows alot of people. I cant agree with this., some are agreable but even those are a tad low but thats me.
These projections don't make much sense, and this year as usual national analysts will be wrong about these things. First of all why would Gaborik have so few points, considering his career average as well as the added effect of Richards being his center. Secondly these show no improvement for Dubinsky, an improving player getting into his prime. Also, they show only three and four point improvements, essentially nothing for stepan and anisimov, which also makes no sense. You cant just assume young guys are not going to get better, if thats true why do we have them. This projection is based on the fact that the older players are going to get worse, and the younger players are not going to improve. These projections are a disaster for the team, and I dont think that will be the case. The team is clearly better than it was. Why is everyone so negative when we have a good thing going?
projections dont mean shit i hate how these analysts try to predict whats gunna happen, im sure they had ovie and kovy well over 30 goals last year and what happened to them? i tired of every one so focused on stats they dont mean shit, the red wings have won the west with datsyuk and zetterberg under 80 points its about keeping the puck out of youre net and playing in a system, not some stupid online projections any idiot can sit and make up what players are gunna do based on averages, both gaborik and richards will have over 70 points and dubinsky will be over 60 these are just averages so if they are around this they can say they are right, and if the player does more they will say well he had a great year, the rangers will easily have 7 players over 20 goals and at least 3 over 30, which is a good season, sorry we rnt washington, since all that firepower got them so many cups
Eh..I'll put it here along with twitter.
200 goals from the top 10 forwards is a ridiculous amount of offense, even if Gaborik and Richards totals aren't what we'd like to think they'll get to. Accounting for the offense gained from the man games lost that they predict, plus the defense, plus Prust and Fedotenko, you're talking neighborhood of at least 240-250 goals, which is top 5-10 offense.
I'll sign for this in a heartbeat.
@cb1 , for Gabby I hope 37 goals is more like it than 29 ... I'd also be happy with 4o or more ... we'll see
@cb1 Wow!!! 31 goals for Cally.
@AnnoyingJoe unless he impresses the shit out of people in camp...which i dont see happening.
btw, i love kovalev busting down the right wing in your avatar
@AnnoyingJoe Was waiting for someone to comment on that.
I doubt highly that these are underestimates. There's a couple immediately I would peg as way too optimistic.
@ChrisP Especially Wolski who I'm pegging for at least 35 this season. ;)
@weiner.zach The games played are a big deal. They have Gaborik with 59 points in 67 games, which looks a lot better for his scoring rate. Ditto Richards, who they have at 72 games.
Ice time mightily effects scoring, so it's not outrageous to think Anisimov and Stepan will only be incrementally better, they're going to lose ES and PP time to Richards. I've already argued for Stepan actually having fewer points this year. Not because he'll be worse, but because his role will be harder to produce in.
It's not realistic to expect all of our young guys are going to have substantial improvements in their boxscore numbers, NHL scoring rates don't allow for that. Richards and Gaborik having better numbers (as people expect) will likely take down Dubi/Step/Cally/Anisimov's numbers a peg.
The alternative is to argue the Rangers have the top offense in the league, which I don't think even the most diehard fan would agree to.
@weiner.zach I was talking about this on Twitter with a few fans and I think these projections take into account that Gabby, Richards, Dubi and Cally are injury prone.
@weiner.zach agreed again duby had more points last year than any other in his career and didnt even play 80 games, theres no reason if hes healthy he wouldnt have over 60 points
@rangersmurf Appreciate you posting here also Smurf.
@rangersmurf i agree, these totals rnt even that bad its balanced and if richards and gaborik explode for more we are set
@KingBadaBing Yeah, but I'm a realist. ;)
@KevinDeLury@cb1 Why not? he had 23 in 60gp last year. And he has only been getting better and better every year. Also consider that opposing teams will be throwing shut-down lines at Gab and Richards, and 31 seems totally attainable.
Those #'s for Gab and Richards seem more realistic.
I think either MDZ, Erixon, or Eminger is going to have a much lower GP total.
@cb1 Thanks! He getting ready to wrist one over Eddie The Eagles R shoulder.
@rangersmurf I dont see how success for gaborik and Richards will materially affect dubi and cali. Yes perhaps their ice time will go down a bit, but with tortarella the more likely scenario is that the 4th line will get almost no time, with the other three lines getting decent time. Also, i dont think its crazy to think that young emerging players will get better. Look at the jomp for both cali and dubi from 2010 to 2011.
@KevinDeLury Even so, Gaborik has never, aside from last year had less points than games in the NHL, I dont see him being in a decline and i expect him to have more points than games not 10 fewer.